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Whats the state income tax in Oregon?

Also, you have to drive FAR as fuck to get a decent home for $300k in a safe neighborhood in San Diego. Portland, its not as bad.

Sure quality of life is better here, but $176,000 in San Diego still doesn't equate to $75,000 in PDX.
 
Sure quality of life is better here, but $176,000 in San Diego still doesn't equate to $75,000 in PDX.

$176k is like middle class in Southern California. You're certainly not rich. You are borderline comfortable, but still paycheck to paycheck at that salary for a couple.

If you have kids to boot, holy fuck, I don't know. People keep up with the joneses way more out here.
 
$176k is like middle class in Southern California. You're certainly not rich. You are borderline comfortable, but still paycheck to paycheck at that salary for a couple.

If you have kids to boot, holy fuck, I don't know. People keep up with the joneses way more out here.

Trying to keep up with the Joneses is a choice and doesn't have anything to do with the cost of living. Nobody is rich making $75k in PDX.
 
Trying to keep up with the Joneses is a choice and doesn't have anything to do with the cost of living. Nobody is rich making $75k in PDX.

We have higher expectations on what its like to live. Most of what it takes to enjoy life takes money. Portlanders are more simple minded in that regard.
 
We have higher expectations on what its like to live.

Well you've stumped me on that one... I have no idea what you mean. "What it's like to live" - isn't that the definition of experience? Expectations are not reality.

So what are your "higher" expectations on SoCal? Clean air, better education system, infrastructure, better plastic surgeons, keeping up with the Kardashians? My cousin's daughter just got married at The Del Coronado in a $500k wedding in an amazing display of excess... and I'm very impressed with those high expectations. :twothumbs:
 
Trying to keep up with the Joneses is a choice and doesn't have anything to do with the cost of living. Nobody is rich making $75k in PDX.

El Confuso again lacks the knowledge and only guesses. In the link below it shows that an $80k salary is equivalent to $94k in San Diego. I guarantee I could live just fine on $174k plus all the other perks politicians receive. I guess el is using alternative facts, lol.

https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/portland-or/san-diego-ca/80000
 
El Confuso again lacks the knowledge and only guesses. In the link below it shows that an $80k salar is equivalent to $94k in San Diego. I guarantee I could live just fine on $174k plus all the other perks politicians receive. I guess el is using alternative facts, lol.

https://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/portland-or/san-diego-ca/80000

Ah, he's a good kid, he likes to troll. The higher expectations thing just made me laugh because we, as Oregonians, really do live a very different lifestyle by choice. SoCalifornians definitely have different expectations but not necessarily "higher" and in his first post he didn't quantify it with the money thing. My whole family (and my best friend) live all over California so I've been there for business and vacation a bazillion times and I would NEVER EVER want to live there. It's got nice features but overall the place is broken down, dry, dirty, crowded and gross.

I just wish they'd stop moving up here, they're horrible drivers. :biglaugh:
 
Ah, he's a good kid, he likes to troll. The higher expectations thing just made me laugh because we, as Oregonians, really do live a very different lifestyle by choice. SoCalifornians definitely have different expectations but not necessarily "higher" and in his first post he didn't quantify it with the money thing. My whole family (and my best friend) live all over California so I've been there for business and vacation a bazillion times and I would NEVER EVER want to live there. It's got nice features but overall the place is broken down, dry, dirty, crowded and gross.

I just wish they'd stop moving up here, they're horrible drivers. :biglaugh:

Yep. been to SoCal many times as when my kids were playing club soccer we use to go a couple times a year to San Diego as they often played at the Del Mar Polo Grounds and one year both of kids played right on the ocean in Coronado on the Silver Strand. I also have a converted brother in law that lives in Mission Viejo. Visited plenty of times but never wanted to live there.
 
I have family in San Diego...they live great lives and aren't particularly wealthy. It really depends on your lifestyle...if you choose to live in Pacific Beach or La Jolla, Torey Pines or anywhere with an ocean view...you'll pay for that...places like San Marco and Escondido are still at least on Portland's scale from what I've seen. Any city on the west coast is insanely overpriced in my view
 
Ah, he's a good kid, he likes to troll. The higher expectations thing just made me laugh because we, as Oregonians, really do live a very different lifestyle by choice. SoCalifornians definitely have different expectations but not necessarily "higher" and in his first post he didn't quantify it with the money thing. My whole family (and my best friend) live all over California so I've been there for business and vacation a bazillion times and I would NEVER EVER want to live there. It's got nice features but overall the place is broken down, dry, dirty, crowded and gross.

I just wish they'd stop moving up here, they're horrible drivers. :biglaugh:

I lived for about 16 years in Portland and I mostly loved it (I do hate the weather tho, with a passion). I now live in North San Diego county - and I love it too. I honestly can say that there are advantages and disadvantages to both places, but calling SoCal broken down, dry, dirty crowded and gross is not the way I would go. Well, dry is mostly true. It is certainly not any dirtier than Portland, and the way traffic is at Portland nowadays is worse (thus more crowded, imho) than San Diego from my experience. Gross is a personal judgement call, I guess - but having been stupid enough to walk around Burnside at night last month - I would argue that there are gross parts of Portland, for sure. As for drivers in SoCal vs. Portland - People are a lot more accommodating on the roads in Portland, I think. Better drivers tho? I am not certain of that.

FWIW - the entire "higher expectations" nonsense is just that. El doing El trolling things.

While I know that Portland would be somewhat cheaper to live in, for us, the much better weather is well worth it - so I personally would not want to go back to live in Portland. If it was NorCal vs. Portland however, I would have a much harder time to choose (fwiw - there were some lovely things about living in NorCal as well).
 
I lived for about 16 years in Portland and I mostly loved it (I do hate the weather tho, with a passion). I now live in North San Diego county - and I love it too. I honestly can say that there are advantages and disadvantages to both places, but calling SoCal broken down, dry, dirty crowded and gross is not the way I would go. Well, dry is mostly true. It is certainly not any dirtier than Portland, and the way traffic is at Portland nowadays is worse (thus more crowded, imho) than San Diego from my experience. Gross is a personal judgement call, I guess - but having been stupid enough to walk around Burnside at night last month - I would argue that there are gross parts of Portland, for sure. As for drivers in SoCal vs. Portland - People are a lot more accommodating on the roads in Portland, I think. Better drivers tho? I am not certain of that.

FWIW - the entire "higher expectations" nonsense is just that. El doing El trolling things.

While I know that Portland would be somewhat cheaper to live in, for us, the much better weather is well worth it - so I personally would not want to go back to live in Portland. If it was NorCal vs. Portland however, I would have a much harder time to choose (fwiw - there were some lovely things about living in NorCal as well).

Exactly, it's a total personal judgment call. "Higher expectations" vary with each individual.
 
Whats the state income tax in Oregon?

Also, you have to drive FAR as fuck to get a decent home for $300k in a safe neighborhood in San Diego. Portland, its not as bad.

Where are you going to find a decent home in a safe neighborhood for $300k in Portland?
 
Ah, he's a good kid, he likes to troll. The higher expectations thing just made me laugh because we, as Oregonians, really do live a very different lifestyle by choice. SoCalifornians definitely have different expectations but not necessarily "higher" and in his first post he didn't quantify it with the money thing. My whole family (and my best friend) live all over California so I've been there for business and vacation a bazillion times and I would NEVER EVER want to live there. It's got nice features but overall the place is broken down, dry, dirty, crowded and gross.

I just wish they'd stop moving up here, they're horrible drivers. :biglaugh:

I mean, you can be cheap as fuck and save money with $175k, but like I said, for a married couple, living in San Diego, unless they are living 15 miles inland, you are pretty much living a middle class lifestyle.
 
But...... that's not Portland. :devilwink:

He is right about housing prices in San Diego however. A comparable home in La Mesa (which is as close to San Diego as Beaverton is to Portland) will be in the $600K range.
 
He is right about housing prices in San Diego however. A comparable home in La Mesa (which is as close to San Diego as Beaverton is to Portland) will be in the $600K range.

The thing is.... there are nice neighborhoods in Beaverton.... and there are shitty neighborhoods in Beaverton. Technically he linked a house in Aloha, and not in a particularly nice part of Aloha. I'm not familiar with San Diego at all, but he keeps linking houses that aren't in very nice neighborhoods, which was part of his stipulation. Decent house in a nice neighborhood in Portland. So far he has yet to find one.
 
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