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But could it be that some people are just homered out about the announcers like we almost all are about the Blazers? Id be curious to think what the national thoughts are on this... if there even is any.

I've read the thread thru and thru, and no one gives any specific reason why M&M were better or these guys are worse, other than the Homer factor.

Your opinion couldn't be because your homered out on them could it?

I was too, but I have accepted the change, come to understand why it was done and I now see it was a good change. Not all change is good, but this one was IMO.

M&M were "home." I'm sure the new guys will eventually feel like that, but why make the change to begin with? How much are the Blazers REALLY benefiting from making the change? Because I can tell you this, our forum does not represent the majority with regard to this change. Most people are still pretty butt-sore over it and I only bring it up to begin with because my sore butt is getting sorer. It's not healing. lolz
 
M&M were "home." I'm sure the new guys will eventually feel like that, but why make the change to begin with? How much are the Blazers REALLY benefiting from making the change? Because I can tell you this, our forum does not represent the majority with regard to this change. Most people are still pretty butt-sore over it and I only bring it up to begin with because my sore butt is getting sorer. It's not healing. lolz

But the people you are refering to are still local yocal homers right?
Why make the change go begin with? You answered that in your first post. To broaden our viewership. Calabro will help to gain loyalty from the Seattle Market, as well as help us gain national attention. How? One way would be anytime he is doing any function or what not (calabro is a national talent) not in our state, he brings the Blazers influence with him.
Meaning, lets say he does a celebrity golf tournament in Florida next summer. Now all involved will know where he is at and potentially spread the word to check us out.
Will it go along ways? No, probably not, but in advertising you rarely make large strides.
Every little bit ads up to the movement of making Portland's a more nationally recognized team to help bring in quality talent in FA down the road.

To me its all clear what the organization is trying to do now. We failed miserably in FA the year before and we are trying to create a thing where they will stay. Is Calabro the answer? No, but he is part of it.
Will it work? Maybe, maybe not, but I'm super happy they are trying at least. We all know the FA woes of this town, so why not try to fix it any way possible and one of those ways is to create more national recognition.

On a more personal note, I was a super M&M homer. IM still happy with the change. Somethings need to be changed to provide freshness whether it was broken or not.
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How much impact do announcers really have on ratings one way or the other? Is Calabro increasing ratings significantly? Is losing Mike & Mike significantly decreasing ratings? Probably not. CSN not being available on Dish or DirecTV is much more impactful on ratings than the announcers are.

Translation: this is all much ado about nothing.
 
The announcers may not affect local ratings, but who is announcing a game certainly affects my enjoyment of viewing the game.

That said, I think Calabro and Hurd are fine. Calabro is a national-level play-by-play guy. This is really a big-time hire by the Blazers. The kind of hire that is contrary to the Roger Dangerfield attitude a lot of people have about Portland and the Blazers not being able to draw a big name. He's a big-time announcer, and quite good, even if a bit wordy.

Hurd...I'll give him a chance. As I've said previously, I get the feeling he wants to talk too much, be too funny and hip, and be a celebrity. I just want reasoned analysis and basketball insight, and not too much unnecessary talk or attempts to be clever.

I don't need or want every millisecond of air time filled with noise. That's one of the things I liked about the Mike's. For example, compare the easy flow of the Atlanta Braves broadcasts in the 1980s, which were the most enjoyable baseball broadcasts I've ever seen, to the insufferable non-stop chatterboxes who did the NBC MLB games. Guys like Bob Costas and Tim McCarver made baseball games unwatchable.

I'll take the Skip Caray's, Ernie Johnsons, Joe Garagiolas, Bob Eukers, and Mike Rice's any day.

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For those who keep saying that Calabro is national, that reminds me of those who kept saying we should keep McMillan because he was the Assistant Coach on the U.S. National Team. So I guess you'd like Barkley and Shaq to replace Rice & Barrett.

Wait...that's an astoundingly good idea.
 
Getting your name wrong is the ultimate form of no respect.

BNM

Makes me think of his bit about how he got stuck with his name.

Rodney Dangerfield said:
I tell you, with me nothing works out. I always get stuck. That's how I got my name, RODNEY DANGERFIELD.

When I went into show business I saw an ad in the paper. It said: "Improve Your Personalilty..." So, I went to see the man. He told me my personality was okay but my name was my problem. I said to him, "My name? How could a name be a problem? Even William Shakespeare said, 'What's in a name?" He said, "Who?" I said, "William Shakespeare." He said, "Look, do you want to listen to me or do you want to listen to your friends?"

I said to him, "I don't understand. Is it good to change your name?" He said, "Of course I always keep changing my name. In fact, right now I can give you a very good deal. I can give you a new name for five hundred dollars". I said, "Five hundred dollars! That's a lot of money." He said, "It's a great name. It's a name once people hear it, they'll start saying it." I said, "What's the name?" He said, "Rodney Dangerfield." I said, "RODNEY DANGERFIELD?" He said, "See, you just heard it, and your're starting to say it! Listen to me, take the name."

I said, "Wait a minute. Suppose I use the name and I don't like it. Can I bring it back?" He said, "Of course. All I ask is one thing. While you're using the name, don't give it a bad name!"

So I decided to call myself Rodney Dangerfield. As soon as I got home, I thought to myself I made a mistake. I called the guy up. I said, "Look, I want my money back. This is Rodney Dangerfield." He said, "Who?" I said, "Dangerfield! Don't you remember?" He said, "Oh, yeah, Shakespeare's friend." I said, "Look, I don't want the name." He said, "Don't be foolish. Try it for two weeks. I guarantee you'll like it." I tried the name for two weeks, I still didn't like it. I went to bring it back. I couldn't find the guy.

He changed his name!
 
Does collabro commentate from a lazy boy? He seems so relaxed with every call.

"Plumlee with the great pass to Crabbe and he *yawns* throws it down."
 
Love the knowledge the new guys are bringing but so far (hopefully its just the preseason effect) they're not nearly as exciting.
 
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So far, I can't complain about the quality of the broadcast crew. I think it's going to take a while for Calabro and Hurd to develop their chemistry, but I think they're doing a good job. I guess my only complaint is that the broadcast just kind of feels like watching a national broadcast. There doesn't seem to be the connection with the team that we had in the past. I know that some of you despise homerism in any amount, but I like for there at least to be a sense that the Blazer guys are rooting for the team to win. If you're not getting that, you may as well just turn down the sound and listen to Wheels.
 
I guess my only complaint is that the broadcast just kind of feels like watching a national broadcast. There doesn't seem to be the connection with the team that we had in the past. I know that some of you despise homerism in any amount, but I like for there at least to be a sense that the Blazer guys are rooting for the team to win.

They talk about Blazer players, with the same level of knowledge as players on other teams. You can't tell that they're Blazer broadcasters.

Last night the camera showed Mike Miller sitting on the Nuggets bench. Calabro said, there's the great Mike Miller. He and Hurd gave him some accolades about a career of achievements, then returned to the action. (I just looked it up. Miller is in his 17th year, with PER almost 15.)

Neither of them seemed to know that one year ago, Miller was a Blazer for 2 months. Olshey waived him during training camp only 12 months and 18 days before last night's game, a recent memory to all of us except the two Blazer broadcasters.
 
They talk about Blazer players, with the same level of knowledge as players on other teams. You can't tell that they're Blazer broadcasters.

Last night the camera showed Mike Miller sitting on the Nuggets bench. Calabro said, there's the great Mike Miller. He and Hurd gave him some accolades about a career of achievements, then returned to the action. (I just looked it up. Miller is in his 17th year, with PER almost 15.)

Neither of them seemed to know that one year ago, Miller was a Blazer for 2 months. Olshey waived him during training camp only 12 months and 18 days before last night's game, a recent memory to all of us except the two Blazer broadcasters.

lol. Some people are never satisfied.


(come on, someone do it... please.)
 
(come on, someone do it... please.)

No one has any idea of what that means. As for my agreeing with E-Blazer (a rare thing, so you know there's something to it) that Calabro & Hurd need to bone up on Blazer minutiae both present and past, I hope you don't think that the example I gave was the only example. There are many each game. You've been listening to them, I hope?

Apparently you don't like analysis. To please you, I'll type 500 posts in a row that say just, "Rah, rah, team!"
 
No one has any idea of what that means. As for my agreeing with E-Blazer (a rare thing, so you know there's something to it) that Calabro & Hurd need to bone up on Blazer minutiae both present and past, I hope you don't think that the example I gave was the only example. There are many each game. You've been listening to them, I hope?

Apparently you don't like analysis. To please you, I'll type 500 posts in a row that say just, "Rah, rah, team!"

lol. I'll let you assume more. Keep going. You've done this good for years.
 
You'll want to see my needle-sharp analysis return soon, like, yesterday.

By the way, when Calabro joined Bob Blackburn, I'd already been listening to every Blackburn game for over a decade. Then I listened to every Calabro game for his 21 years. I'm not giving first-time listening impressions of him.
 
How many games do we give them a pass on referring to a player as the wrong person?

This is the team you announce for now, take the time to get to learn the players. I know it's probably confusing that Crabbe has a new haircut, so look around during warm up and learn who is who! Granted it was only once or twice tonight, but how about a little homework for the benefit of those watching on a small non HD TV!
 
How many games do we give them a pass on referring to a player as the wrong person?

This is the team you announce for now, take the time to get to learn the players. I know it's probably confusing that Crabbe has a new haircut, so look around during warm up and learn who is who! Granted it was only once or twice tonight, but how about a little homework for the benefit of those watching on a small non HD TV!
Mike did that all the time.
I liked Calabro - very professional sounding. Overall I noticed C&H less than I ever noticed M&M, and that's a good thing. Kinda like refs.
 
Still like Calabro (Although, please stop saying Splash).

Changed my tune on Hurd. He's reminding me of Antonio Harvey... talks way too much and isn't offering a lot. Sucks, because he seems like a nice dude.
 
Still like Calabro (Although, please stop saying Splash).

I almost typed that in the game thread - don't say splash, don't EVER say splash.

Changed my tune on Hurd. He's reminding me of Antonio Harvey... talks way too much and isn't offering a lot. Sucks, because he seems like a nice dude.

Hurd had first game gitters tonight, just like he did in the first preseason game. He had verbal diarrhea. He was trying WAY too hard. It was obvious, distracting and annoying as fuck. He just needs to calm the fuck down and stop trying so hard.

BNM
 

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