It's Now A 10-Game "Trial" Period

[ABM]

According to Wheels today, Nate was/is very unhappy with the game 1 turnovers and has effectively given this team a 10-game trial period in which to reasonably get them under control.

If not, he'll then clamp down on the reins and reduce/eliminate the fast-break, running game.

 

[Mediocre Man]

According to Wheels today, Nate was/is very unhappy with the game 1 turnovers and has effectively given this team a 10-game trial period in which to reasonably get them under control.

If not, he'll then clamp down on the reins and reduce/eliminate the fast-break, running game.

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I will have to go back and watch the game, but I don't remember more than a couple of TO's when they were running. I made a comment on one and you, by the way, mocked me. Which given this news makes me look brilliant.


If this is true then Mr Sonic officially becomes Mr. Assclown

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

I think Nate had no need to be concerned. We ran OK, but that will get better. We'll reduce the turnovers as most were not a result of running.

I have no concerns. We brought our C game and easily won.

 

[ABM]

I made a comment on one and you, by the way, mocked me....

Yeah, I admit, that was a bit over the top. I apologize for that remark.

That said, I did see the team at least "try" and run more than a few times last night.

 

[Pinwheel1]

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I will have to go back and watch the game, but I don't remember more than a couple of TO's when they were running. I made a comment on one and you, by the way, mocked me. Which given this news makes me look brilliant.


If this is true then Mr Sonic officially becomes Mr. Assclown

I don't think any of Greg's 7 turn overs were from the fast break. Most were from slapping the ball away around the basket.

 

[RoyIsClutch07]

According to Wheels today, Nate was/is very unhappy with the game 1 turnovers and has effectively given this team a 10-game trial period in which to reasonably get them under control.

If not, he'll then clamp down on the reins and reduce/eliminate the fast-break, running game.

As Barrett and Rice said last night, you have to be able to live with some turnovers when you are playing such a style.

Maybe what Nate needs to do is work on that style in practice instead of so much isolation play. That's what running coaches like Rick Adelman, Mike D'antoni, Paul Westphal would do.

 

[oldmangrouch]

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I will have to go back and watch the game, but I don't remember more than a couple of TO's when they were running. I made a comment on one and you, by the way, mocked me. Which given this news makes me look brilliant.


If this is true then Mr Sonic officially becomes Mr. Assclown

I guess Nate and I were watching different games. It looked to me as if the half-court offense was the part that was out-of-sync.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I guess Nate and I were watching different games. It looked to me as if the half-court offense was the part that was out-of-sync.

That's what I saw as well.


I think it's just an excuse for him to not have to try to get easy baskets.......Although everyone seems to think he really does want to

 

[RoyIsClutch07]

That's what I saw as well.


I think it's just an excuse for him to not have to try to get easy baskets.......Although everyone seems to think he really does want to

That's why he likes guys like Blake because Blake won't throw risky passes. Make risky plays.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Nate is a constant source of whiplash humor to me these days.

 

[andalusian]

Somehow I can just see Nate sitting in his office, reading the board and thinking of evil ways to get MM upset. That's quite funny, honestly.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Somehow I can just see Nate sitting in his office, reading the board and thinking of evil ways to get MM upset. That's quite funny, honestly.

Haha. That IS funny.

 

[Wheels]

The offense as a whole looked out of sync last night.. but the running looked pretty dang bad as well. And I see why we are a half court team.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

The running actually looked really good when Andre was handling the ball, but when any one else was it was humorous and facepalm worthy. Travis trying to throw the ball of Andre's head on the break was a moment where I didn't know whether to laugh, be shocked, cry, or shake my head.

 

[Mediocre Man]

The offense as a whole looked out of sync last night.. but the running looked pretty dang bad as well. And I see why we are a half court team.

You mean the running where we went from tied to ahead by 13?

 

[Wheels]

The running actually looked really good when Andre was handling the ball, but when any one else was it was humorous and facepalm worthy. Travis trying to throw the ball of Andre's head on the break was a moment where I didn't know whether to laugh, be shocked, cry, or shake my head.

The Travis ones hurt my brain. And then someone throwing it to Andre and it almost went out of bounds. And Rudy falling at half court trying to push it. to me the Fast break looked ugly. But thats an IMO lol.

 

[Wheels]

You mean the running where we went from tied to ahead by 13?

hey you dont need to convince me that the offense looked better when Andre was in there. But the running didnt look very good IMO.

 

[B-Roy]

If this is true then Mr Sonic officially becomes Mr. Assclown

You've said this dozens of times now. How long before it happens?

 

[ABM]

I look at this whole thing as, well, it was just game 1. As mentioned above, many of the turnovers had nothing to do with fast- breaking or running.

10 games is plenty of time to see if something works, or not. If Nate is willing to use this amount of time in which to evaluate the style of play, then more power to him. It's a new season, a relatively new team with Andre on-board.

Again, as mentioned above, the Blazers won the ball game. In my mind, it was never in doubt. Even when Houston had cut the lead to 6.

One of the most surprising things to me, though, was our Centers' foul trouble. Especially considering Houston's undersized big men. Can you say ticky-tack?

 

[magnifier661]

According to Wheels today, Nate was/is very unhappy with the game 1 turnovers and has effectively given this team a 10-game trial period in which to reasonably get them under control.

If not, he'll then clamp down on the reins and reduce/eliminate the fast-break, running game.

Well like I said in the O-live forum. I was so "pro-Nate" for the last 5 years until the end of last season. Then I started questioning his coaching ability. I'm still curious if Nate has any post plays designed?

Right now it seems more like "Hey toss the ball in the post and see what happens" instead of "God dammit you idiots let's post the damn ball!"

 

[hasoos]

I don't think any of Greg's 7 turn overs were from the fast break. Most were from slapping the ball away around the basket.

and 4 of those were fouls that were not called.

 

[Idog1976]

You mean the running where we went from tied to ahead by 13?

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I can remember Rudy losing a ball, Andre's bad pass to LA, and the offensive fouls by Martell and Greg that could be attributed to running. Alot of the others were offensive fouls when we were in a half court set or a flat out steal by the Rockets.

If not for the run in the second quarter, the Rockets might have had a decent chance at winning.

 

[hasoos]

This is why for a long time I have said there is no need to run just for the sake of running. No purely running teams have won it all since the showtime Lakers, and the rules of the game have changed since then to favor defensive minded teams. If you watch the teams that run for the hell of it, you will note the biggest hole in their scheme is that they can blow a big lead very fast. When you play Phoenix, Dallas, New York, etc, you can be down by 20 and then be back in the game in like 3 minutes. Then when these teams hit the playoffs, and you have to execute in the half court because of all the timeouts, fouls, and must score posessions (Coaches will use every time out in the playoffs, in the regular season not so much.) they cannot score as well in the half court because their game is not comfortable in that scenario.

Portland needs to run to take advantage of good situations. But they don't need to run for the sake of running. That is complete bullshit, and will not bode well for playoff basketball.

 

[Mediocre Man]

This is why for a long time I have said there is no need to run just for the sake of running. No purely running teams have won it all since the showtime Lakers, and the rules of the game have changed since then to favor defensive minded teams. If you watch the teams that run for the hell of it, you will note the biggest hole in their scheme is that they can blow a big lead very fast. When you play Phoenix, Dallas, New York, etc, you can be down by 20 and then be back in the game in like 3 minutes. Then when these teams hit the playoffs, and you have to execute in the half court because of all the timeouts, fouls, and must score posessions (Coaches will use every time out in the playoffs, in the regular season not so much.) they cannot score as well in the half court because their game is not comfortable in that scenario.

Portland needs to run to take advantage of good situations. But they don't need to run for the sake of running. That is complete bullshit, and will not bode well for playoff basketball.

Portland has been last in the league in fast break points ever since Nate got here. No one wants the Warrios, but maybe move up to the middle somewhere would be nice?

 

[MickZagger]

That's what I saw as well.


I think it's just an excuse for him to not have to try to get easy baskets.......Although everyone seems to think he really does want to

Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. Nate doesn't want to win, he just wants to play his style regardless of how good or bad the team plays.

 

[hasoos]

Portland has been last in the league in fast break points ever since Nate got here. No one wants the Warrios, but maybe move up to the middle somewhere would be nice?

Surely. But the amount of turnovers they had last night says they were forcing the issue. There is a difference. Also remember you have to work with what you bring to the table. Several players on this team have never been good decision makers in fast break situations. Thats just the facts. Work with what you are given.

 

[illmatic99]

Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head. Nate doesn't want to win, he just wants to play his style regardless of how good or bad the team plays.

I can't really tell if you're being sarcastic.

That's some sad stuff, Nate.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Surely. But the amount of turnovers they had last night says they were forcing the issue. There is a difference. Also remember you have to work with what you bring to the table. Several players on this team have never been good decision makers in fast break situations. Thats just the facts. Work with what you are given.

Well, let's see. None of Oden's 7 TO's were because we ran. None of Joel's 2 TO's were because we ran. None of Roy's 3 TO's were because we ran. None of Blake's 2 TO's were because we ran. So assuming all other TO's happened because we were running, which they didn't, that would = 12. While the non running TO's = 14


Keep in mind that Portland averaged 12.9 TO's last year.

 

[julius]

So wait, that's the Blazers offense with the reigns taken off!?