It's Official: Blazers now the worst 3pt shooting team in the league

[Boob-No-More]

Re: We are now officially the worst 3-point shooting team in the league

yet we were 4th in the league in 2008/09

Before every team in the league learned how to stop the Roy iso/kick out. They all made the adjustment. What has our coach done in the 3 years since to counter that adjustment? Nothing, he just keeps trying the same old predictable shit hoping it will magically start working again.

And, if you want to disagree and claim we simply had much better 3-point shooters back then, why hasn't our coach adjusted his offensive game plan to suit the talents of the players on his roster? If our guys really are the worst 3-point shooters in the league, why does our coach insist on running an offense that's so dependent on personnel that are above average 3-pointer shooters? If we don't have guys who can consistently make 3-pointers, why do we shoot so many?

BNM

 

[Nikolokolus]

If ever there was conclusive proof that the three-goggles need to be put in a hole and buried, this stat is it.

 

[OneSport3]

If ever there was conclusive proof that the three-goggles need to be put in a hole and buried, this stat is it.

HAHAHAHAHA... Very good point.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Speaking of the goggles, Kentucky's Terrence Jones used them last night after he drained a three.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Speaking of the goggles, Kentucky's Terrence Jones used them last night after he drained a three.

He is a guy I would love to get in the draft.

 

[Nikolokolus]

He is a guy I would love to get in the draft.

Too bad he won't be on the table at 16 or 17 where we're likely to draft after our imminent first round exit to the Spurs or the Lakers.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Too bad he won't be on the table at 16 or 17 where we're likely to draft after our imminent first round exit to the Spurs or the Lakers.

So you are saying you think we make the playoffs . . . I like your optimism.

 

[oldmangrouch]

You can spin it as you like, but IMHO this just proves that Nate's offense is wrong for the current players. An offense that requires the team to constantly chuck-n-duck with the shot clock expiring *isn't working*.

Yes Nate, the players have to make their shots - but as the coach, you have to come up with plays that give them shots they can actually make!

 

[Nikolokolus]

So you are saying you think we make the playoffs . . . I like your optimism.

At the current rate they're playing? Yeah they look like they should win around 43-46 games and get the 8th seed. Which, in my humble opinion, is just where you don't want to be as a team. If you are on the verge of a rebuild/re-tool/overhaul you need quality assets and holding on to expiring contracts like Miller, Joel (and Camby if the lockout goes for awhile) means you lose them for nothing and net yourself a pretty mediocre draft pick. Woo hoo!

 

[The_Lillard_King]

At the current rate they're playing? Yeah they look like they should win around 43-46 games and get the 8th seed. Which, in my humble opinion, is just where you don't want to be as a team. If you are on the verge of a rebuild/re-tool/overhaul you need quality assets and holding on to expiring contracts like Miller, Joel (and Camby if the lockout goes for awhile) means you lose them for nothing and net yourself a pretty mediocre draft pick. Woo hoo!

I think kind of the opposite, 7th/8th seed means you get to play in the playoffs and really the draft pick would be about the same as just missing the playoffs. Blazers are likely to lose but having a chance to knock the two time defending champs out of the playoffs . . . how epic would that be if they pulled it off.

But I get what you are saying about giving up something now for a better future. I was behind the Blazers when they did taht before. But personallly I just rode out one of these rebuilding through youth and draft picks and am really not ready to get on that ride again so soon. I'm looking for Cho to bring the superstar to Ptd and bypass the six year patience stage.

So I'm not against trading the vets, but draft picks are only fun in the summer or you got a top 5, IMO.

 

[Kaydow]

Our schedule is gonna get pretty easy. We have 5 straight games coming up against <.500 teams.

Actually, it's 7 straight. 69-149 is the combined record of our opponents over that stretch, and 5 of them are at home. They are all 3-7 in their last 10 games, except Phoenix is 2-8 (so it's not like we're catching anyone who started out slow but is catching fire). This is by far the softest part of our schedule all year. We SHOULD win at least 5 of those games.

 

[jlprk]

I don't know, we brick wide open 3's all the time, does it matter if the team we play is above or below .50? I'd be interested to see if our shooting % differs much when we plat good or bad teams?

As of tonight, we are 20th best (.354) in 3 pt% vs. sub-.500 teams.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/11/1/fg3pct/14-1

We are 9th best (.341) in sub-.500 teams shooting 3 pt% against us.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/opponentstats/11/1/fg3pct/14-1

As I said in the "Advanced Statistics" thread, you guys should click around HoopStats. It's dying from lack of use. For example this season, they took out the thing I've looked at most for several seasons. It's the page for each team comparing each player's change in stats from the previous season. I don't know what else they whittled out.

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketbal...d-trail-blazers/team/profile/11/25/13-1-2-eff

 

[jlprk]

To complete the answer for Blazinaway...

We are 29th (.294) in 3 pt% vs. .500+ teams.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/11/1/fg3pct/13-1

We are 22nd best (.384) in .500+ teams shooting 3 pt% against us.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/opponentstats/11/1/fg3pct/13-1

In conclusion, yes, our 3-point shooting is much worse against teams over .500 vs. teams under .500. We drop from 20th to 29th in our shooting, and from 9th to 22nd in our stopping theirs.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Nicely done JLPRK.

 

[Blazinaway]

To complete the answer for Blazinaway...

We are 29th (.294) in 3 pt% vs. .500+ teams.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/teamstats/11/1/fg3pct/13-1

We are 22nd best (.384) in .500+ teams shooting 3 pt% against us.
http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/opponentstats/11/1/fg3pct/13-1

In conclusion, yes, our 3-point shooting is much worse against teams over .500 vs. teams under .500. We drop from 20th to 29th in our shooting, and from 9th to 22nd in our stopping theirs.

thx amigo, good info