It's official...Warren to the BP

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Cashman: Joe I've got to get you to put Warren in the pen
Girardi: Why is that Cash
Cashman: That's Mr. Cashman to you Field Guy
Girardi: Warren has earned his starter status, the fans will be pissed.
Cashman: We're paying the colored man big money, fuck the fans what do they know?
Girardi: well OK consider it done.

God Damn Joe, I've supported you since game one in '08, don't know where that demotion originated but as Field Manager you should be fighting for the guy who did the most. This Yankee Fan is very disappointed in that decision, shows all of us the wrong direction for this team we support. Get Gonads!
 
It has seriously gotten to the point now where whenever CC starts a game you could just chalk it up as a loss.

As far as Warren, he deserved a lot better.
 
Pretty disappointing news to see a guy get shafted when he was outperforming his contemporaries. Wonder how that will affect the attitude and morale of this team.
 
I believe the kid is a FA after this year & if I'm him, I'm testing the waters for 2016.
 
I'm sorry but there is absolutely no logic to this move at all.
 
Rick2583 said:
I believe the kid is a FA after this year & if I'm him, I'm testing the waters for 2016.
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Oh NO, there goes another decent starter with a helluva lot of potential in NY, who goes to some other team, cuz Trashman's plan was left in the shitter........and no one will pick the list of a plan out of the shitpile, he's built and placed it in......!!!

If the Yanx were to win the World Series, (big hopeful dreaming); they'd do it with more than Lady Luck, and it would be with CC out in the Pen, or sitting at home watching it, as he is removed from the 40 Man Roster, in favor of a last minute acqusition (I hope, that's yet to come)...........and I don't hear any Aces beating down the Yanx door, to let them in, .......

Hell if I were a kid, able to still play this game, I'd offer my services for FREE......!Where the Hell did respect go...? in the Bank in the form of 25 Mil...???
 
Mattingly23NY said:
Oh NO, there goes another decent starter with a helluva lot of potential in NY, who goes to some other team, cuz Trashman's plan was left in the shitter........and no one will pick the list of a plan out of the shitpile, he's built and placed it in......!!!

If the Yanx were to win the World Series, (big hopeful dreaming); they'd do it with more than Lady Luck, and it would be with CC out in the Pen, or sitting at home watching it, as he is removed from the 40 Man Roster, in favor of a last minute acqusition (I hope, that's yet to come)...........and I don't hear any Aces beating down the Yanx door, to let them in, .......

Hell if I were a kid, able to still play this game, I'd offer my services for FREE......!Where the Hell did respect go...? in the Bank in the form of 25 Mil...???
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I just wouldn't blame him if he did Rob.
 
...if a young pitcher under team control making peanuts performs above expectations can climb the ladder and earn a starting job regardless of his salary, why can't a veteran who's pitched well below expectations, be relegated to BP service ?
...best players should play, lesser players should sit.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...if a young pitcher under team control making peanuts performs above expectations can climb the ladder and earn a starting job regardless of his salary, why can't a veteran who's pitched well below expectations, be relegated to BP service ?
...best players should play, lesser players should sit.
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You one pretty smart hombre.
 
Because there's no guarantee that somebody who has started their entire life can just go to the bullpen and be effective. It's not automatic and in today's baseball you have to value bullpen slots as well.
 
cc should have volunteered to go to the pen.
 
Messiah717 said:
Because there's no guarantee that somebody who has started their entire life can just go to the bullpen and be effective. It's not automatic and in today's baseball you have to value bullpen slots as well.
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..."no guarantee"?...what kind of guarantee do you need? CC doesn't have to prove he can pitch out of the pen. And if he's sent to the pen, can he really do any more harm there than he's already done? If he were to be used out of the pen it would be because there's already a blowout or the starter has already shit the bed or got hurt, as opposed to CC starting and shitting the bed 75% of the time.
...I believe Tim Lincecum was relegated to the BP awhile back.

...and value BP slots?...why is that?...have you looked at the Yanx BP lately?
 
yankeesince59 said:
..."no guarantee"?...what kind of guarantee do you need? CC doesn't have to prove he can pitch out of the pen. And if he's sent to the pen, can he really do any more harm there than he's already done? If he were to be used out of the pen it would be because there's already a blowout or the starter has already shit the bed or got hurt, as opposed to CC starting and shitting the bed 75% of the time.
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They already have Capuano doing that shit. So unless you dump him to replace him with CC I wouldn't waste another bullpen slot for the same garbage time role.
 
Messiah717 said:
They already have Capuano doing that shit. So unless you dump him to replace him with CC I wouldn't waste another bullpen slot for the same garbage time role.
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...well Capuano is not the only one in the pen who can be replaced. And he's actually been a little better since the demotion.
 
totus44 said:
cc should have volunteered to go to the pen.
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...that may be the only way it happens, tote. Because evidently the powers that be do not have the balls to make the decision themselves.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...that may be the only way it happens, tote. Because evidently the powers that be do not have the balls to make the decision themselves.
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The Lincecum analogy is spot on Ron. And this year he started and is going back to the Giants pen any day now.
 
A DL stint is exactly what needs to happen with Sabathia right now.
 
...from tote's linked article...this sums it up.

"Either way the Yankees are rapidly approaching a breaking point with Sabathia. Actually, I’d say they’re already there and have been since Ivan Nova returned and legitimately gave the Yankees five starters better than Sabathia. This is an organizational failure. It’s not on Joe Girardi. It’s on Brian Cashman and perhaps those above him if Hal Steinbrenner & Co. want Sabathia in the rotation because of his contract. Girardi can’t be expected to make the decision and carry out the plan on his own. Not with someone like Sabathia. The brain trust has to be involved.

For now, Sabathia is not helping the Yankees win games and they don’t have the luxury of giving him time to straighten things out. They’ve already given him too much time. Sabathia is not much of an asset to the Yankees any more, he’s a sunk cost, and if the team wants to put itself in the best position to return to the postseason, he shouldn’t be in the rotation at all. The sooner they’re willing to swallow that pill, the better off they’ll be."
 
Messiah717 said:
A DL stint is exactly what needs to happen with Sabathia right now.
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Anyone facebook friends with Jeff Gillooly (now going by Jeff Stone)? He can use Drew's bat, could be the best production we see from that piece of wood.
 
...fwiw, with his stuff, I actually think Eovaldi would be ideal for the pen...and give one of the starting spots to the starter with the lowest ERA on the staff instead of demoting him...Warren.
 
totus44 said:
Anyone facebook friends with Jeff Gillooly (now going by Jeff Stone)? He can use Drew's bat, could be the best production we see from that piece of wood.
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...yeah, but he'd be as likely to whiff as hit a HR with that bat to the knee.
 
Warren being the seventh inning guy is not a bad move if they can make a move a get another half way decent starter in here before the deadline. Shreve, Warren, Betances and Miller would be one hell of a pen and get back to the time when the Yankees were able to shorten a game considerably.
 
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