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Dallas beat Utah today with a Dirk 3 with 0.8 to go 97-94, thus assuring that the nets will get Dallas first round pick this year. Now we can actually make realistic assumptions on who the Nets should pick. Mavs first round pick should be around 20th to 22nd.
Any thoughts?
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Good news I guess. Maybe Denver can pass the Mavs to get the 7th spot, although it's unlikely. I hope a nice combo guard falls to us with our pick (Mayo, Bayless, Gordon) and maybe we can get Batum with the Mavs pick. That would be nice, but to bad it won't happen.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kevin Love, CDR, and Shan Foster welcome to the team</div>
I would have an orgasm if we drafted that! Although if O.J. Mayo is there I think we should consider him possibly over Kevin Love.
Just as long as the Nets don't blow any picks on a European pussy who will end up busting I'll be fine. IMO this is the deepest draft in years.
I would have an orgasm if we drafted that! Although if O.J. Mayo is there I think we should consider him possibly over Kevin Love.
Just as long as the Nets don't blow any picks on a European pussy who will end up busting I'll be fine. IMO this is the deepest draft in years.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ Apr 11 2008, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kevin Love, CDR, and Shan Foster welcome to the team</div>
I would have an orgasm if we drafted that! Although if O.J. Mayo is there I think we should consider him possibly over Kevin Love.
Just as long as the Nets don't blow any picks on a European pussy who will end up busting I'll be fine. IMO this is the deepest draft in years.
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Yeah, I would definitely take O.J. first. But the only reason some mocks had him in the 7-12 range is becuase of character concers. His coach, this year, and all of his teammates only had positive things to say about him which, in my opinion, put him back in the top 5.
Hopefully the balls bounce our way on lottery night.
I would have an orgasm if we drafted that! Although if O.J. Mayo is there I think we should consider him possibly over Kevin Love.
Just as long as the Nets don't blow any picks on a European pussy who will end up busting I'll be fine. IMO this is the deepest draft in years.
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Yeah, I would definitely take O.J. first. But the only reason some mocks had him in the 7-12 range is becuase of character concers. His coach, this year, and all of his teammates only had positive things to say about him which, in my opinion, put him back in the top 5.
Hopefully the balls bounce our way on lottery night.
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Honestly this draft is tough to gauge...most mocks are all over the place with where talent is going...it's gonna be an interesting couple of months.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 11 2008, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets have issues everywhere. They need to select the best player on the board (regardless of position) for both picks.
-Petey</div>
Sad but true.
-Petey</div>
Sad but true.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 11 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if we use our first pick to get OJ, then what good big man will be available for our next pick? 20th-22nd? Maybe Arthur from Kansas? or no?</div>
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 11 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if we use our first pick to get OJ, then what good big man will be available for our next pick? 20th-22nd? Maybe Arthur from Kansas? or no?</div>
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
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Who is the best out of all of those players you named?
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
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Who is the best out of all of those players you named?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 11 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if we use our first pick to get OJ, then what good big man will be available for our next pick? 20th-22nd? Maybe Arthur from Kansas? or no?</div>
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
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You managed to mix together a group of big men that projects from the late lottery (Hibbert) to almost undrafted (Dorsey the knucklehead)
Arthur is very talented, but shows up about 5 games per season
Robin Lopez is a Varejao style energy player with an unrefined offensive game
DJ White will be a nice contributor in the NBA, but is destined for the second round unless he absolutely blows a team away in a private workout
Dorsey's rebounding won't be as good in the NBA and he shrinks in big games against NBA talent (see Oden last year, Kansas this year). Plus he is a knucklehead.
Hibbert has become the most popular person to bash in the draft, but he can score, pass and defend the basket at an NBA level.
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
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You managed to mix together a group of big men that projects from the late lottery (Hibbert) to almost undrafted (Dorsey the knucklehead)
Arthur is very talented, but shows up about 5 games per season
Robin Lopez is a Varejao style energy player with an unrefined offensive game
DJ White will be a nice contributor in the NBA, but is destined for the second round unless he absolutely blows a team away in a private workout
Dorsey's rebounding won't be as good in the NBA and he shrinks in big games against NBA talent (see Oden last year, Kansas this year). Plus he is a knucklehead.
Hibbert has become the most popular person to bash in the draft, but he can score, pass and defend the basket at an NBA level.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Apr 11 2008, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets have issues everywhere. They need to select the best player on the board (regardless of position) for both picks.
-Petey</div>
I think drafting 1 threw 3 is more important then drafting a 4 or 5. We have Sean who should be able to get better over the summer, Krstic who is returning to the old Nenad and with Boone coming on strong this season. We also have Diop off the bench for defense and who knows whats going to happen with Swift. Our power foward and center postions are already clogged up, considering we resign Diop and Krstic. I think we have a bigger need for a combo guard and a small foward.
-Petey</div>
I think drafting 1 threw 3 is more important then drafting a 4 or 5. We have Sean who should be able to get better over the summer, Krstic who is returning to the old Nenad and with Boone coming on strong this season. We also have Diop off the bench for defense and who knows whats going to happen with Swift. Our power foward and center postions are already clogged up, considering we resign Diop and Krstic. I think we have a bigger need for a combo guard and a small foward.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hibbert has become the most popular person to bash in the draft, but he can score, pass and defend the basket at an NBA level.</div>
..isn't that pretty much what we need? As much as I hate GTown and the fact that Hibbert completely disappears and seems undominant in games, he could be pretty useful for us. Of course, I'd go for wings before bigs at this point.
If Hibbert somehow dropped to our second 1st round pick, I would be pissed if we didn't nab him.
..isn't that pretty much what we need? As much as I hate GTown and the fact that Hibbert completely disappears and seems undominant in games, he could be pretty useful for us. Of course, I'd go for wings before bigs at this point.
If Hibbert somehow dropped to our second 1st round pick, I would be pissed if we didn't nab him.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 11 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if we use our first pick to get OJ, then what good big man will be available for our next pick? 20th-22nd? Maybe Arthur from Kansas? or no?</div>
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
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You managed to mix together a group of big men that projects from the late lottery (Hibbert) to almost undrafted (Dorsey the knucklehead)
Arthur is very talented, but shows up about 5 games per season
Robin Lopez is a Varejao style energy player with an unrefined offensive game
DJ White will be a nice contributor in the NBA, but is destined for the second round unless he absolutely blows a team away in a private workout
Dorsey's rebounding won't be as good in the NBA and he shrinks in big games against NBA talent (see Oden last year, Kansas this year). Plus he is a knucklehead.
Hibbert has become the most popular person to bash in the draft, but he can score, pass and defend the basket at an NBA level.
</div>
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
</div>
You managed to mix together a group of big men that projects from the late lottery (Hibbert) to almost undrafted (Dorsey the knucklehead)
Arthur is very talented, but shows up about 5 games per season
Robin Lopez is a Varejao style energy player with an unrefined offensive game
DJ White will be a nice contributor in the NBA, but is destined for the second round unless he absolutely blows a team away in a private workout
Dorsey's rebounding won't be as good in the NBA and he shrinks in big games against NBA talent (see Oden last year, Kansas this year). Plus he is a knucklehead.
Hibbert has become the most popular person to bash in the draft, but he can score, pass and defend the basket at an NBA level.
</div>
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 11 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if we use our first pick to get OJ, then what good big man will be available for our next pick? 20th-22nd? Maybe Arthur from Kansas? or no?</div>
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
</div>
You managed to mix together a group of big men that projects from the late lottery (Hibbert) to almost undrafted (Dorsey the knucklehead)
Arthur is very talented, but shows up about 5 games per season
Robin Lopez is a Varejao style energy player with an unrefined offensive game
DJ White will be a nice contributor in the NBA, but is destined for the second round unless he absolutely blows a team away in a private workout
Dorsey's rebounding won't be as good in the NBA and he shrinks in big games against NBA talent (see Oden last year, Kansas this year). Plus he is a knucklehead.
Hibbert has become the most popular person to bash in the draft, but he can score, pass and defend the basket at an NBA level.
</div>
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.
</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
</div>
You managed to mix together a group of big men that projects from the late lottery (Hibbert) to almost undrafted (Dorsey the knucklehead)
Arthur is very talented, but shows up about 5 games per season
Robin Lopez is a Varejao style energy player with an unrefined offensive game
DJ White will be a nice contributor in the NBA, but is destined for the second round unless he absolutely blows a team away in a private workout
Dorsey's rebounding won't be as good in the NBA and he shrinks in big games against NBA talent (see Oden last year, Kansas this year). Plus he is a knucklehead.
Hibbert has become the most popular person to bash in the draft, but he can score, pass and defend the basket at an NBA level.
</div>
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.
</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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next year it probably would have been a better pick, but in a weaker draft
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 11 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Apr 11 2008, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if we use our first pick to get OJ, then what good big man will be available for our next pick? 20th-22nd? Maybe Arthur from Kansas? or no?</div>
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
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Who is the best out of all of those players you named?
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The best players, right now, in order would be Darrell Arthur, DJ White, Robin Lopez, Roy Hibbert, and Joey Dorsey.
But they will probably get drafted as Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, Roy Hibbert, DJ White, then Joey Dorsey. It's different because of potential and a number of other factors. DJ White has a very polished low post game, probably the best out of all those big men, but Robin Lopez will get drafted before him because he's a 7 footer, even though he is much more raw.
Darrell Arthur improved his draft stock immensly in that Championship game because the knock on him was that he didn't have much of a back to the basket game. But about half of his 20 points came when Kansas fed him the ball down there.
Robin Lopez gets a little more attention than he probably should because of his brother, but he's a solid big man nonetheless. Just extremely raw.
Roy Hibbert is, Roy Hibbert. We all know what he can do and can't do. And has probably maxed out his potential. But he is 7'2 and as they say, you can't teach height.
Joey Dorsey is kind of hard to judge as his highlight videos make him look like a top ten pick, but anyone whos seen him play knows that he's not. He's an athletic freak and a monster on the glass, very comparable to Ben Wallace as Dorsey is short for a center at 6'9. If he ever gets his head together, some team's late first or second round pick will look very good.
Yeah Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, DJ White, Joey Dorsey, and the ever so unpopular, Roy Hibbert. All of them except maybe one or two would be available with our second first round pick.
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Who is the best out of all of those players you named?
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The best players, right now, in order would be Darrell Arthur, DJ White, Robin Lopez, Roy Hibbert, and Joey Dorsey.
But they will probably get drafted as Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez, Roy Hibbert, DJ White, then Joey Dorsey. It's different because of potential and a number of other factors. DJ White has a very polished low post game, probably the best out of all those big men, but Robin Lopez will get drafted before him because he's a 7 footer, even though he is much more raw.
Darrell Arthur improved his draft stock immensly in that Championship game because the knock on him was that he didn't have much of a back to the basket game. But about half of his 20 points came when Kansas fed him the ball down there.
Robin Lopez gets a little more attention than he probably should because of his brother, but he's a solid big man nonetheless. Just extremely raw.
Roy Hibbert is, Roy Hibbert. We all know what he can do and can't do. And has probably maxed out his potential. But he is 7'2 and as they say, you can't teach height.
Joey Dorsey is kind of hard to judge as his highlight videos make him look like a top ten pick, but anyone whos seen him play knows that he's not. He's an athletic freak and a monster on the glass, very comparable to Ben Wallace as Dorsey is short for a center at 6'9. If he ever gets his head together, some team's late first or second round pick will look very good.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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Of course there are, but Dorsey is already 24 years old and essentially a finished product. The minor leagues are filled with undersized big men that have no offensive skills.
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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Of course there are, but Dorsey is already 24 years old and essentially a finished product. The minor leagues are filled with undersized big men that have no offensive skills.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hibbert has become the most popular person to bash in the draft, but he can score, pass and defend the basket at an NBA level.</div>
He makes his teammates better. There aren't five players in this draft where that is a guarantee.
He definitely needs to go to the right team, though.
He makes his teammates better. There aren't five players in this draft where that is a guarantee.
He definitely needs to go to the right team, though.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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Of course there are, but Dorsey is already 24 years old and essentially a finished product. The minor leagues are filled with undersized big men that have no offensive skills.
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Not entirely true. Few players in that league, much less this draft class, have Dorsey's athleticism. And next to Beasley, he's probably the best rebounder in the draft class and the second strongest.
He'll be a late first to early second pick and if he gets his head together then I'd be afraid to play against him. Very afraid.
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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Of course there are, but Dorsey is already 24 years old and essentially a finished product. The minor leagues are filled with undersized big men that have no offensive skills.
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Not entirely true. Few players in that league, much less this draft class, have Dorsey's athleticism. And next to Beasley, he's probably the best rebounder in the draft class and the second strongest.
He'll be a late first to early second pick and if he gets his head together then I'd be afraid to play against him. Very afraid.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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Of course there are, but Dorsey is already 24 years old and essentially a finished product. The minor leagues are filled with undersized big men that have no offensive skills.
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Not entirely true. Few players in that league, much less this draft class, have Dorsey's athleticism. And next to Beasley, he's probably the best rebounder in the draft class and the second strongest.
He'll be a late first to early second pick and if he gets his head together then I'd be afraid to play against him. Very afraid.
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That's some powerful stuff you're using.
In the championship game, Dorsey had as many rebounds as Sasha Kaun and was completely dominated by Darnell Jackson. NBA teams don't look highly on guys that come up small in the big games.
As for getting his head together, he is 24, just 4 years younger than Stro Swift. I applaud Dorsey for coming as far as he has from his upbringing (first in his family to graduate high school), but he is still a grade A knucklehead.
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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Of course there are, but Dorsey is already 24 years old and essentially a finished product. The minor leagues are filled with undersized big men that have no offensive skills.
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Not entirely true. Few players in that league, much less this draft class, have Dorsey's athleticism. And next to Beasley, he's probably the best rebounder in the draft class and the second strongest.
He'll be a late first to early second pick and if he gets his head together then I'd be afraid to play against him. Very afraid.
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In the championship game, Dorsey had as many rebounds as Sasha Kaun and was completely dominated by Darnell Jackson. NBA teams don't look highly on guys that come up small in the big games.
As for getting his head together, he is 24, just 4 years younger than Stro Swift. I applaud Dorsey for coming as far as he has from his upbringing (first in his family to graduate high school), but he is still a grade A knucklehead.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 11 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 06:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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Of course there are, but Dorsey is already 24 years old and essentially a finished product. The minor leagues are filled with undersized big men that have no offensive skills.
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Not entirely true. Few players in that league, much less this draft class, have Dorsey's athleticism. And next to Beasley, he's probably the best rebounder in the draft class and the second strongest.
He'll be a late first to early second pick and if he gets his head together then I'd be afraid to play against him. Very afraid.
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That's some powerful stuff you're using.
In the championship game, Dorsey had as many rebounds as Sasha Kaun and was completely dominated by Darnell Jackson. NBA teams don't look highly on guys that come up small in the big games.
As for getting his head together, he is 24, just 4 years younger than Stro Swift. I applaud Dorsey for coming as far as he has from his upbringing (first in his family to graduate high school), but he is still a grade A knucklehead.
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well if you don't want to take my word for it then take a couple NBA scout's.
"As always, defense continues to be the most appealing aspect of Dorsey’s game. When his statistics are adjusted to a 40 minute pace, Dorsey ranks first in total rebounds and ninth in blocked shots amongst all players in our database this season. His tremendous athleticism allow him to alter a tremendous number of shots and makes him a stellar help defender, which works well when Memphis goes to their zone defense. This also allows him to pull down plenty of rebounds that aren’t in his immediate area. As a post defender Dorsey has proven to be very intelligent in the past, and that continues to be the case this season. He is very strong and tough to back down, where Dorsey separates himself from a lot of other strong post defenders though is he isn’t just a pusher, he knows how to use his strength. In situations where opponents are able to get the ball on the block against him, rather than always trying to push them out of position, Dorsey does a great job of positioning himself in a way that opponents are forced to take tough shots over him. He did a particularly good job of this in Memphis’s win over Georgetown, holding Roy Hibbert to just six points on 3-8 shooting."
<u>"Dorsey is clearly a player that it would be easy to see in an NBA uniform next season. His lack of ideal height is certainly an issue, but he combats this well with his tremendous strength and athleticism</u>. His effort is going to win him points, and his fight on the offensive glass is definitely a characteristic that will get him playing time regardless of where he ends up. Defense will be his main selling point, but the fact that we are starting to see some signs of a back to the basket game will only help his cause. Being an integral part of the number one team in the country is going to do a lot for Dorsey’s stock, nothing attracts attention like winning could very well be hoisting a national championship trophy come March."
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Joey-Dorsey-456/
"Strengths: A physical specimen type of interior force … Very aggressive, strong and explosive … Does all the dirty work, cleaning the boards and defending … Simply overpowers a lot of players on the college level with brute strength and athleticism … A tremendous rebounder, averaging more rebounds than points per game (9.6 rpg as a junior), and really hits the offensive glass hard where he averages nearly as many offensive rebounds as on the defensive end… Runs the floor well and plays at a high intensity level … An improving shot blocker (2.2 bpg) who also alters opponents shots … His great length and leaping ability make him a load for opponents to contend with on both ends of the floor … Has shown some improvement in his skill level, though he’ll likely never be much of an offensive player … Capable of some rim rattling dunks and attacks the rim with ferocity …"
http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/joeydorsey.html
on that site, they rank him for athleticism 9/10, defense 9/10, strength 10/10, and rebounding 10/10. He is the only player in their mock draft, http://nbadraft.net/, with 10/10 strength, I believe, and only him and Beasley have 10/10 rebounding. So you can take that however you want to.
As for him calling out Oden last year, he admitted he was stupid enough to do that and made it a point this year to not say anything like that. He even went as far as to not talk to the media at all. So I think this shows a sign that he is improving his mental game, rather than continuing to be an idiot like he has been in the past.
Joey Dorsey will not go undrafted. I would be willing to put a large wager on that.</div>
I could buy that. Even if he's as bad as Cpaw makes him out to be, there are some pretty retarded GMs in the NBA.
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Of course there are, but Dorsey is already 24 years old and essentially a finished product. The minor leagues are filled with undersized big men that have no offensive skills.
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Not entirely true. Few players in that league, much less this draft class, have Dorsey's athleticism. And next to Beasley, he's probably the best rebounder in the draft class and the second strongest.
He'll be a late first to early second pick and if he gets his head together then I'd be afraid to play against him. Very afraid.
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In the championship game, Dorsey had as many rebounds as Sasha Kaun and was completely dominated by Darnell Jackson. NBA teams don't look highly on guys that come up small in the big games.
As for getting his head together, he is 24, just 4 years younger than Stro Swift. I applaud Dorsey for coming as far as he has from his upbringing (first in his family to graduate high school), but he is still a grade A knucklehead.
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well if you don't want to take my word for it then take a couple NBA scout's.
"As always, defense continues to be the most appealing aspect of Dorsey’s game. When his statistics are adjusted to a 40 minute pace, Dorsey ranks first in total rebounds and ninth in blocked shots amongst all players in our database this season. His tremendous athleticism allow him to alter a tremendous number of shots and makes him a stellar help defender, which works well when Memphis goes to their zone defense. This also allows him to pull down plenty of rebounds that aren’t in his immediate area. As a post defender Dorsey has proven to be very intelligent in the past, and that continues to be the case this season. He is very strong and tough to back down, where Dorsey separates himself from a lot of other strong post defenders though is he isn’t just a pusher, he knows how to use his strength. In situations where opponents are able to get the ball on the block against him, rather than always trying to push them out of position, Dorsey does a great job of positioning himself in a way that opponents are forced to take tough shots over him. He did a particularly good job of this in Memphis’s win over Georgetown, holding Roy Hibbert to just six points on 3-8 shooting."
<u>"Dorsey is clearly a player that it would be easy to see in an NBA uniform next season. His lack of ideal height is certainly an issue, but he combats this well with his tremendous strength and athleticism</u>. His effort is going to win him points, and his fight on the offensive glass is definitely a characteristic that will get him playing time regardless of where he ends up. Defense will be his main selling point, but the fact that we are starting to see some signs of a back to the basket game will only help his cause. Being an integral part of the number one team in the country is going to do a lot for Dorsey’s stock, nothing attracts attention like winning could very well be hoisting a national championship trophy come March."
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Joey-Dorsey-456/
"Strengths: A physical specimen type of interior force … Very aggressive, strong and explosive … Does all the dirty work, cleaning the boards and defending … Simply overpowers a lot of players on the college level with brute strength and athleticism … A tremendous rebounder, averaging more rebounds than points per game (9.6 rpg as a junior), and really hits the offensive glass hard where he averages nearly as many offensive rebounds as on the defensive end… Runs the floor well and plays at a high intensity level … An improving shot blocker (2.2 bpg) who also alters opponents shots … His great length and leaping ability make him a load for opponents to contend with on both ends of the floor … Has shown some improvement in his skill level, though he’ll likely never be much of an offensive player … Capable of some rim rattling dunks and attacks the rim with ferocity …"
http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/joeydorsey.html
on that site, they rank him for athleticism 9/10, defense 9/10, strength 10/10, and rebounding 10/10. He is the only player in their mock draft, http://nbadraft.net/, with 10/10 strength, I believe, and only him and Beasley have 10/10 rebounding. So you can take that however you want to.
As for him calling out Oden last year, he admitted he was stupid enough to do that and made it a point this year to not say anything like that. He even went as far as to not talk to the media at all. So I think this shows a sign that he is improving his mental game, rather than continuing to be an idiot like he has been in the past.
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Wait, wait, wait, did you just call DX and nbadraft.net a couple of NBA scouts. Are you on Jon G's and Aran's PR staffs?
His nbadraft.net profile hasn't been updated since October 2007 and if you're going to quote it, you should include the weaknesses and outlook as well. As for nbadraft.net's x/10 rankings, lets just say they aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
As for DX's profile, saying that they could see someone in an NBA uniform is not the same as seeing him drafted. Currently, they have him projected at pick #45 which is a danger zone for dropping to the bottom of the second or out of it completely on draft night. Especially this early in the process, DX doesn't do a good job of projecting all of the Euro stashes that teams take in the late second round.
His nbadraft.net profile hasn't been updated since October 2007 and if you're going to quote it, you should include the weaknesses and outlook as well. As for nbadraft.net's x/10 rankings, lets just say they aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
As for DX's profile, saying that they could see someone in an NBA uniform is not the same as seeing him drafted. Currently, they have him projected at pick #45 which is a danger zone for dropping to the bottom of the second or out of it completely on draft night. Especially this early in the process, DX doesn't do a good job of projecting all of the Euro stashes that teams take in the late second round.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wait, wait, wait, did you just call DX and nbadraft.net a couple of NBA scouts. Are you on Jon G's and Aran's PR staffs?
His nbadraft.net profile hasn't been updated since October 2007 and if you're going to quote it, you should include the weaknesses and outlook as well. As for nbadraft.net's x/10 rankings, lets just say they aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
As for DX's profile, saying that they could see someone in an NBA uniform is not the same as seeing him drafted. Currently, they have him projected at pick #45 which is a danger zone for dropping to the bottom of the second or out of it completely on draft night. Especially this early in the process, DX doesn't do a good job of projecting all of the Euro stashes that teams take in the late second round.</div>
I meant, a couple NBA scouting reports. But my point was that all of the mock drafts I've seen have Dorsey getting draft early to mid second. Obviously he could either improve his draft stock by going late first or falling to undrafted.
And I'm not just taking these site's words for it, I've seen Dorsey play 6 to 7 times this year and on the offensive end, yes he does look non-existant at times. But take a team like the Nets, who have had tremendous rebounding and defensive issues this year. If were sitting there with the 10th pick in the second round, and we havn't drafted a big man yet, it would not be a smart move to not draft this kid.
Everything I've read and seen on/from Dorsey, has shown me he is one of the strongest players in the draft and one of the best rebounders. If you disagree with that then that is fine.
His nbadraft.net profile hasn't been updated since October 2007 and if you're going to quote it, you should include the weaknesses and outlook as well. As for nbadraft.net's x/10 rankings, lets just say they aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
As for DX's profile, saying that they could see someone in an NBA uniform is not the same as seeing him drafted. Currently, they have him projected at pick #45 which is a danger zone for dropping to the bottom of the second or out of it completely on draft night. Especially this early in the process, DX doesn't do a good job of projecting all of the Euro stashes that teams take in the late second round.</div>
I meant, a couple NBA scouting reports. But my point was that all of the mock drafts I've seen have Dorsey getting draft early to mid second. Obviously he could either improve his draft stock by going late first or falling to undrafted.
And I'm not just taking these site's words for it, I've seen Dorsey play 6 to 7 times this year and on the offensive end, yes he does look non-existant at times. But take a team like the Nets, who have had tremendous rebounding and defensive issues this year. If were sitting there with the 10th pick in the second round, and we havn't drafted a big man yet, it would not be a smart move to not draft this kid.
Everything I've read and seen on/from Dorsey, has shown me he is one of the strongest players in the draft and one of the best rebounders. If you disagree with that then that is fine.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 11 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Apr 11 2008, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wait, wait, wait, did you just call DX and nbadraft.net a couple of NBA scouts. Are you on Jon G's and Aran's PR staffs?
His nbadraft.net profile hasn't been updated since October 2007 and if you're going to quote it, you should include the weaknesses and outlook as well. As for nbadraft.net's x/10 rankings, lets just say they aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
As for DX's profile, saying that they could see someone in an NBA uniform is not the same as seeing him drafted. Currently, they have him projected at pick #45 which is a danger zone for dropping to the bottom of the second or out of it completely on draft night. Especially this early in the process, DX doesn't do a good job of projecting all of the Euro stashes that teams take in the late second round.</div>
I meant, a couple NBA scouting reports. But my point was that all of the mock drafts I've seen have Dorsey getting draft early to mid second. Obviously he could either improve his draft stock by going late first or falling to undrafted.
And I'm not just taking these site's words for it, I've seen Dorsey play 6 to 7 times this year and on the offensive end, yes he does look non-existant at times. But take a team like the Nets, who have had tremendous rebounding and defensive issues this year. If were sitting there with the 10th pick in the second round, and we havn't drafted a big man yet, it would not be a smart move to not draft this kid.
Everything I've read and seen on/from Dorsey, has shown me he is one of the strongest players in the draft and one of the best rebounders. If you disagree with that then that is fine.
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Dorsey is 24 years old and an interior player. I'd be very concerned if he wasn't one of the strongest players. He isn't a great positional rebounder and in the NBA he isn't going to have strength, size and quickness advantages most nights. He's a damn good college rebounder (most nights), but he doesn't translate and project into that good of an NBA rebounder.
I certainly believe that he has a chance to make a team as an undrafted FA, but I don't see any compelling reasons for a team to draft him.
His nbadraft.net profile hasn't been updated since October 2007 and if you're going to quote it, you should include the weaknesses and outlook as well. As for nbadraft.net's x/10 rankings, lets just say they aren't worth the paper they aren't printed on.
As for DX's profile, saying that they could see someone in an NBA uniform is not the same as seeing him drafted. Currently, they have him projected at pick #45 which is a danger zone for dropping to the bottom of the second or out of it completely on draft night. Especially this early in the process, DX doesn't do a good job of projecting all of the Euro stashes that teams take in the late second round.</div>
I meant, a couple NBA scouting reports. But my point was that all of the mock drafts I've seen have Dorsey getting draft early to mid second. Obviously he could either improve his draft stock by going late first or falling to undrafted.
And I'm not just taking these site's words for it, I've seen Dorsey play 6 to 7 times this year and on the offensive end, yes he does look non-existant at times. But take a team like the Nets, who have had tremendous rebounding and defensive issues this year. If were sitting there with the 10th pick in the second round, and we havn't drafted a big man yet, it would not be a smart move to not draft this kid.
Everything I've read and seen on/from Dorsey, has shown me he is one of the strongest players in the draft and one of the best rebounders. If you disagree with that then that is fine.
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Dorsey is 24 years old and an interior player. I'd be very concerned if he wasn't one of the strongest players. He isn't a great positional rebounder and in the NBA he isn't going to have strength, size and quickness advantages most nights. He's a damn good college rebounder (most nights), but he doesn't translate and project into that good of an NBA rebounder.
I certainly believe that he has a chance to make a team as an undrafted FA, but I don't see any compelling reasons for a team to draft him.
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