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That would be exactly the kind of deal that the Blazers should be looking for. Exchange old for young without having to take back a bad contract. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one.
 
Going from Tony Parker to this is kind of disheartening. Not a bad move, but I'm hoping for more of a splash.
 
Chuck Taylor said:
Going from Tony Parker to this is kind of disheartening. Not a bad move, but I'm hoping for more of a splash.
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This early in the day, this rumor could be nothing more than the Blazers putting the squeeze on the Spurs to let them know that there are other options that don't involve taking back Richard Jefferson's ugly contract.
 
e_blazer said:
This early in the day, this rumor could be nothing more than the Blazers putting the squeeze on the Spurs to let them know that there are other options that don't involve taking back Richard Jefferson's ugly contract.
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That's funny I just had that thought too! And honestly, it's a good idea to have backup options anyway.
 
Nelson would be a fantastic pick up, and it would give Orlando another asset to deal to Atlanta for J Smoove
 
Andre's 2011 PER was 17.89....Nelson's was 15.47. He may be younger, but I don't see him helping us get out of the first round. At least he can hit the 3 though.
 
Jameer Nelson has never lit my fire. He's the poor man's Kemba Walker. He's Mr. Average, only a little shorter. Bleh.

Would Orlando be planning to keep Dre? He's not the kind of PG that Stan Van Gundy likes because he doesn't shoot threes.
 
Nelson is solid, and about the kind of PG I'd expect to get for Andre and a first-rounder. He's 29, can shoot the 3 at a 40-percent clip, a one-time All-Star two years ago and is a legit NBA starter. I'd want Parker instead but Nelson would not be a bad get.
 
I've never been a Nelson fan, and while I wouldn't be outraged with the deal, I wouldn't be enthusiastic, either.

Nelson is 29, so while he's about six years younger than Miller it's not like he's a spring chicken. He also has had troubles staying healthy (he's missed double-digit regular season games in four of his seven seasons).

I dunno... a small step back, probably, in the short term... but if the team doesn't think they can get anyone who would help them (OR if they think they can buy their way back into the first round) I could see it working.

Ed O.
 
I'm not super excited with this but i'd do it. Nelson can spread the floor better then Miller and can run a faster offense. If this goes down the front offense better be trying to do more moves because that doesn't make us really better its more of an even move with the future being a tad brighter.
 
Jameer Nelson? Seriously? The only advantage he has over Miller is that he's younger. I like Andre's post-up game and passing abilities much more than Nelson's 3-point shooting. Miller averaged 7 assists in the post-season, Nelson averaged only 6. Miller is a lot bigger, savvier, and battle-tested. I'd rather have him going into next season than Jameer Nelson.
 
Dre is better than Jameer, and is on a better contract. Why do we have to throw in a pick?
 
This is probably smoke to get Spurs to bite on a lower package for Parker.
 
Rhal said:
I'm not super excited with this but i'd do it. Nelson can spread the floor better then Miller and can run a faster offense. If this goes down the front offense better be trying to do more moves because that doesn't make us really better its more of an even move with the future being a tad brighter.
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And younger. Aldridge lacked someone to keep the double/triple team off him. Jameer can do this. He's passing the ball better than he ever has in his career IMO, and can knock down the jumper consistantly. He's had 7 years to perfect the ally-opp to Howard. I think he's exactly what Aldridge needs. But you're right, we do need something else in terms of scoring off the bench.
 
Chuck Taylor said:
At least he can hit the 3 though.
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Not in the playoffs: he was 6-26. He wasn't going inside, either - he played 36 mpg and managed a TOTAL of 14 fts over six games. By comparison, Dre was 4-10 from 3 and shot 24 fts. In 32 mpg.
 
The guy on Hoopsworld thinks that the Magic would turn around and trade Dre and the pick for Josh Smith. Well, shit, we could do that and I'd be a lot happier! If that's out there, why are we even talking to Orlando? They don't have anybody we'd want apart from that one guy who stole Shaq's nickname.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Not in the playoffs: he was 6-26. He wasn't going inside, either - he played 36 mpg and managed a TOTAL of 14 fts over six games. By comparison, Dre was 4-10 from 3 and shot 24 fts. In 32 mpg.
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I'm not a fan of Jameer, but you have to admit he is a much better 3 point shooter than Miller. Tiny sample sizes = weak arguments.
 
Chuck Taylor said:
I'm not a fan of Jameer, but you have to admit he is a much better 3 point shooter than Miller. Tiny sample sizes = weak arguments.
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Pah! What's the sample size of Dre playing with Dwight Howard and being totally open practically every time?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Not in the playoffs: he was 6-26. He wasn't going inside, either - he played 36 mpg and managed a TOTAL of 14 fts over six games. By comparison, Dre was 4-10 from 3 and shot 24 fts. In 32 mpg.
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One playoff series does not a bum make. Check out Jameer's '09/'10 playoff stats. 19ppg, 4rbs, 5asts, shooting 48% (40% from 3), and 82% from the line. Howard was a manimal this year in the playoffs, albeit getting bounced early. I would blame J. Rich's dropoff in the playoffs more than I would Jameer's for their early exit.
 
alex42083 said:
Nelson is solid, and about the kind of PG I'd expect to get for Andre and a first-rounder. He's 29,
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Shit, he's 29 already? I was against it when I thought he was 26! Figures, though, he's been playing like he's on the downslide.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Shit, he's 29 already? I was against it when I thought he was 26! Figures, though, he's been playing like he's on the downslide.
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I was a bit surprised that he was that old, too... he turned 23 during his rookie season.

Ed O.
 
I think Nelson is a significant upgrade over Miller. He's a better rebounder, takes it to the hole and gets fouled, great FT shooter, much better 3 pt shooter, better defender, tougher/fearless, and has experience playing with a great big man, and YOUNGER.
 
Nelson is a solid B level point guard who has a particular skill that this team is sorely lacking -- the ability to hit an outside shot. So even though I think Miller is a superior point guard in terms of passing and inside game, Nelson is much younger and gives this team a much different look.

On a talent basis I'd call the trade mostly a push, but from a fit perspective and the "it's time to try something new" perspective I like the move if it happens

Bear in mind more moves are going to be needed.
 
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I will be SERIOUSLY PISSED if this is our big draft day splash. I would sooner we did nothing and drafted a Eurostash at 21. Nelson is mediocrity itself.
 
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