Jason Collins does not belong in the NBA

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1/2 while earning 24 million and gets worse every year. It amazes me how he gets paid for being 7 ft. Just had to get that off my chest.
 
Well, he was a major reason the Nets beat the Raptors in the playoffs.

Without him, they probably would have lost.

So, you are wrong. He has a role in the NBA.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, he was a major reason the Nets beat the Raptors in the playoffs.

Without him, they probably would have lost.

So, you are wrong. He has a role in the NBA.</div>



again with the toronto series. can we please keep it relevant please? this thread is in reference to this season.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, he was a major reason the Nets beat the Raptors in the playoffs.

Without him, they probably would have lost.

So, you are wrong. He has a role in the NBA.</div>



again with the toronto series. can we please keep it relevant please? this thread is in reference to this season.
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Where in your original post did you say this thread was solely relevant to Jason Collins' performance this season?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Dec 27 2007, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, he was a major reason the Nets beat the Raptors in the playoffs.

Without him, they probably would have lost.

So, you are wrong. He has a role in the NBA.</div>



again with the toronto series. can we please keep it relevant please? this thread is in reference to this season.
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Where in your original post did you say this thread was solely relevant to Jason Collins' performance this season?
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usually when i post his averages for this year, it's sort of refers to this season but mayb im just crazy
 
I don't see any stats in your first post.
 
1/2 are his stats. i know, they're a bit low.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>usually when i post his averages for this year, it's sort of refers to this season but mayb im just crazy</div>

When you post the total value of his contract you are no longer talking about just this season
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Dec 27 2007, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>usually when i post his averages for this year, it's sort of refers to this season but mayb im just crazy</div>

When you post the total value of his contract you are no longer talking about just this season
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total earnings. 6 mil this year, he got paid that full 24 mil. 6 mil this season i beleive. do you want me to post his stats from previous years?
 
lol at this, although I agree with Jizzy: Collins is overpaid.

But I contend that his salary does not determine his place in the NBA. Players don't 'make it' in the NBA because of salary; its based on skills.

So while I'm sure we can all agree that triplezerosausagelipscowlins is overpaid, he does belong in the NBA. He would be an attractive candidate if he was paid ~1.25 (I'm guessing the vets minimum by pulling it out of my ass!) and served as Magloire is playing now: one who gets DNP-CD's until a match up is needed (Raptors in playoffs)
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the ghoti clones in full effect</div>

You've got problems.

You are either completely oblivious to how the game of basketball is played or you're either being completely dishonest.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Dec 27 2007, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, he was a major reason the Nets beat the Raptors in the playoffs.

Without him, they probably would have lost.

So, you are wrong. He has a role in the NBA.</div>



again with the toronto series. can we please keep it relevant please? this thread is in reference to this season.
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Where in your original post did you say this thread was solely relevant to Jason Collins' performance this season?
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usually when i post his averages for this year, it's sort of refers to this season but mayb im just crazy
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so you are basically saying he doesn't belong in the NBA because of what occurs this year. Two years ago you opinion might of been different when he annoyed the hell out of Jermaine O Neal.

Collins has help the Nets at times. I remember when Deke went down and he had to step in to roll of starting C and same with Zo.

I know now Collins is feeling the wraith of Sean William's fame. I feel he shouldn't be starting but he is a good bench player.
 
He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Dec 27 2007, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Dec 27 2007, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, he was a major reason the Nets beat the Raptors in the playoffs.

Without him, they probably would have lost.

So, you are wrong. He has a role in the NBA.</div>



again with the toronto series. can we please keep it relevant please? this thread is in reference to this season.
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Where in your original post did you say this thread was solely relevant to Jason Collins' performance this season?
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usually when i post his averages for this year, it's sort of refers to this season but mayb im just crazy
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so you are basically saying he doesn't belong in the NBA because of what occurs this year. Two years ago you opinion might of been different when he annoyed the hell out of Jermaine O Neal.

Collins has help the Nets at times. I remember when Deke went down and he had to step in to roll of starting C and same with Zo.

I know now Collins is feeling the wraith of Sean William's fame. I feel he shouldn't be starting but he is a good bench player.
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Cliffy bothered JON more, and he's out of the league. maybe out of the league is a bit harsh, he's an ok 15th man now.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right? players do get worse, ya know.

but your right, he's be a good camp invitee and a decent 15th man. guess that means he made it.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Cliffy bothered JON more, and he's out of the league. maybe out of the league is a bit harsh, he's an ok 15th man now.</div>

So, because a 41 year old player has retired, but in your judgement "bothered" Jermaine O'Neal a lot, Jason Collins doesn't belong in the NBA?

Your logic mystifies me.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right?
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Sure. Among others.

Not sure what your argument is that he isn't an NBA player.

I looked through the whole thread but don't see one.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the ghoti clones in full effect</div>
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At your service.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right?
</div>

Sure. Among others.

Not sure what your argument is that he isn't an NBA player.

I looked through the whole thread but don't see one.
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don't look at this thread, look at the production on the hardwood. you most likely don't see one as you have your Collins glasses on, it's ok, they're a hot sale aparently.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right?
</div>

Sure. Among others.

Not sure what your argument is that he isn't an NBA player.

I looked through the whole thread but don't see one.
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don't look at this thread, look at the production on the hardwood.


what other series did Collins exactly play well in? all we've heard from you is basically, "Toronto series!!!!"....yeah
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If you are not going to provide any actual arguments to back up the thread you started, there's really nothing to discuss here.

I'm not going to argue with myself.

You said he isn't an NBA player. I said he is and it's obvious why.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right?
</div>

Sure. Among others.

Not sure what your argument is that he isn't an NBA player.

I looked through the whole thread but don't see one.
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don't look at this thread, look at the production on the hardwood. you most likely don't see one as you have your Collins glasses on, it's ok, they're a hot sale aparently.
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Notice that you're the only one in this thread displaying nothing but hate towards Collins? What does that tell you?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right?
</div>

Sure. Among others.

Not sure what your argument is that he isn't an NBA player.

I looked through the whole thread but don't see one.
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don't look at this thread, look at the production on the hardwood.


what other series did Collins exactly play well in? all we've heard from you is basically, "Toronto series!!!!"....yeah
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If you are not going to provide any actual arguments to back up the thread you started, there's really nothing to discuss here.

I'm not going to argue with myself.

You said he isn't an NBA player. I said he is and it's obvious why.
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you have yet to state a reason why. for all the talking you do, none of its been stated yet. please, prove me why...if possible or should i expect another "Im right, you're wrong" response.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Dec 27 2007, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right?
</div>

Sure. Among others.

Not sure what your argument is that he isn't an NBA player.

I looked through the whole thread but don't see one.
</div>
don't look at this thread, look at the production on the hardwood. you most likely don't see one as you have your Collins glasses on, it's ok, they're a hot sale aparently.
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Notice that you're the only one in this thread displaying nothing but hate towards Collins? What does that tell you?
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am i the only fan who feels this way? nope. the 5 of your guys opinions law now or what?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Dec 27 2007, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right?
</div>

Sure. Among others.

Not sure what your argument is that he isn't an NBA player.

I looked through the whole thread but don't see one.
</div>
don't look at this thread, look at the production on the hardwood. you most likely don't see one as you have your Collins glasses on, it's ok, they're a hot sale aparently.
</div>

Notice that you're the only one in this thread displaying nothing but hate towards Collins? What does that tell you?
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so?
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If you honestly can't see my point, then there's no sense in arguing with you. You'll continue to believe that what you say is truth, no matter how obviously ridiculous it is.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Dec 27 2007, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Notice that you're the only one in this thread displaying nothing but hate towards Collins? What does that tell you?</div>

It tells me that some regulars are missing
 
He may not belong in the NBA, but he DOES belong on CB32's fantasy team.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Dec 27 2007, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Dec 27 2007, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 27 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 27 2007, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's proven he belongs in the NBA, so the premise of this thread is wrong.</div>
toronto series, right?
</div>

Sure. Among others.

Not sure what your argument is that he isn't an NBA player.

I looked through the whole thread but don't see one.
</div>
don't look at this thread, look at the production on the hardwood. you most likely don't see one as you have your Collins glasses on, it's ok, they're a hot sale aparently.
</div>

Notice that you're the only one in this thread displaying nothing but hate towards Collins? What does that tell you?
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so?
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If you honestly can't see my point, then there's no sense in arguing with you. You'll continue to believe that what you say is truth, no matter how obviously ridiculous it is.
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you're making no point. just becasue my opinion differs from a bunch of guys here makes me wrong right? Obviously, my OPINION is the truth to ME. it can be false to you but in my mind, its the truth. varying opinions doesnt make me wrong
 

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