Jason Kidd: Quit blaming me
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Mar 7 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Mar 7 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Mar 7 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>See much difference w/o Kidd now?
-Petey</div>
Actually no. Just proves the point. You think you would notice the team playing worse when you remove a HOF type player, but they play the same with 5 new faces that haven't learned the system. Not noticing the loss of the triple doubles.
Actually there is one difference: they aren't falling behind by double digits early and often. That was usually a guarantee with these guys. Considering there are five new faces that need to learn what the Nets are doing that's pretty impressive.
And I'm not saying Kidd made them lose. Saying he didn't help them win all that often this season.
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I don't see how that helps in proving that Kidd wanted the Nets to lose, while hunting for stats.
-Petey
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When I said "deep down I actually think Kidd wanted to see them lose" I meant that on a subconscious level. That he was indifferent to losing... it didn't hurt his cause.
Gottta admit it's hard to be traded from a winning team.
-Petey</div>
Actually no. Just proves the point. You think you would notice the team playing worse when you remove a HOF type player, but they play the same with 5 new faces that haven't learned the system. Not noticing the loss of the triple doubles.
Actually there is one difference: they aren't falling behind by double digits early and often. That was usually a guarantee with these guys. Considering there are five new faces that need to learn what the Nets are doing that's pretty impressive.
And I'm not saying Kidd made them lose. Saying he didn't help them win all that often this season.
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I don't see how that helps in proving that Kidd wanted the Nets to lose, while hunting for stats.
-Petey
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When I said "deep down I actually think Kidd wanted to see them lose" I meant that on a subconscious level. That he was indifferent to losing... it didn't hurt his cause.
Gottta admit it's hard to be traded from a winning team.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Mar 7 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When I said "deep down I actually think Kidd wanted to see them lose" I meant that on a subconscious level. That he was indifferent to losing... it didn't hurt his cause.
Gottta admit it's hard to be traded from a winning team.</div>
I see your point, but when was the last time the Nets were a winning team? If the team was winning which it wasn't last year, would he wanted out?
It's 1 think to say he was a dirt bag off the court, and 1 for wanting out. But to accuse him of throwing games or not trying, that's a bit far.
-Petey
Gottta admit it's hard to be traded from a winning team.</div>
I see your point, but when was the last time the Nets were a winning team? If the team was winning which it wasn't last year, would he wanted out?
It's 1 think to say he was a dirt bag off the court, and 1 for wanting out. But to accuse him of throwing games or not trying, that's a bit far.
-Petey
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Mar 7 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Mar 7 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When I said "deep down I actually think Kidd wanted to see them lose" I meant that on a subconscious level. That he was indifferent to losing... it didn't hurt his cause.
Gottta admit it's hard to be traded from a winning team.</div>
I see your point, but when was the last time the Nets were a winning team? If the team was winning which it wasn't last year, would he wanted out?
It's 1 think to say he was a dirt bag off the court, and 1 for wanting out. But to accuse him of throwing games or not trying, that's a bit far.
-Petey
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NEVER ever meant that he purposely threw games. Just meant he was not hyped up to win them night in and night out... indifferent.
Gottta admit it's hard to be traded from a winning team.</div>
I see your point, but when was the last time the Nets were a winning team? If the team was winning which it wasn't last year, would he wanted out?
It's 1 think to say he was a dirt bag off the court, and 1 for wanting out. But to accuse him of throwing games or not trying, that's a bit far.
-Petey
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NEVER ever meant that he purposely threw games. Just meant he was not hyped up to win them night in and night out... indifferent.
