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KP has one more "big" move up his sleeve........a big enough one that "might" save his job.

However, while pressed, he wouldn't reveal his sources, nor anything else about this tidbit of juicy info on this morning's MSP. Although, he did mention a potential scenario whereas KP goes to PA and say's, "I have three players for player X. Can I pull the trigger?"

I wonder what this all means?????????????
 
It would have to be one helluva maneuver to save his job. That said, I've heard Quick suggest this kind of thing before and nothing came of it, I'd say the odds of some kind of blockbuster happening now are fairly slim -- that's not a knock on KP's talents as a GM, these kinds of trades just don't happen very often.
 
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Yea, MR. the master plan is to get deron williams, "it will happen"
 
Wouldn't it be funny if he pulls off the coup of the decade- and then gets canned.
 
Quick also alluded to the Darius Miles fiasco as, perhaps, the biggest factor in KP and Penn losing their jobs.
 
Quick also alluded to the Darius Miles fiasco as, perhaps, the biggest factor in KP and Penn losing their jobs.

How could the Darius thing be KP's fault, when it was Paul Allen who got a boner for Darius and agreed to grossly overpay him?
 
What did Quick say that we dont already know? Based on what KP has done in the past and what's been reported by ESPN etc, we all know KP is very active in trade talks around draft time. Based on our roster, if we do make a trade its obvious it would be a 2 or 3 for 1 type deal. Quick told us nothing we didnt already know.

The Miles thing is KP's fault? That sounds like Quick looking for another angle that hasnt been brought up already. He's reaching... reaching to bring attention to himself which is how guys like Crapzano and him make a living. Quick see's the news (probably from this message board) that Miles is going to work out in Charlotte, so he thinks to himself "hmmmm, I can spin that into this whole KP situation and get my name in the news".
 
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Quick also alluded to the Darius Miles fiasco as, perhaps, the biggest factor in KP and Penn losing their jobs.

Did KP and TP sign Miles to that contract? Hell, no. PA has no one to blame but himself. In fact, Nash told Miles to go out and get an offer, which we would match. So his agent gets a six year deal at $24MM from Denver. It was then Miles voiced his displeasure, so PA decides to sign off on a six year $47MM deal. I don't recall KP pushing that deal as DPP. In fact, I don't even know if KP was here. TP sure wasn't.

Look, the guy showed no desire to play the game anymore. He made a move that cost himself at least $4MM by returning to the NBA. He wasn't an NBA quality player when he returned, but Memphis signed him just to fuck us. That's a move most owners won't make against each other, as it cost PA $9MM. It was a series of unlikely circumstances that turned out to be a worst case scenario.

If that's why Allen is pissed, then he needs to look in the mirror.
 
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If that's why Allen is pissed, then he needs to look in the mirror.

KP didn't trade Miles to NY when he could have been included in the Zach deal for Malik Rose.

KP and Penn told Allen that Miles would come off the salary cap so the team should have him medically retire instead of keeping him on the roster to move in a trade.
 
Did KP and TP sign Miles to that contract? Hell, no. PA has no one to blame but himself. .

True, but then again, Penn was the cap guy, and I imagine he crafted the idea to try and have Darius medically retired. Had the Blazers just kept him and sat him, we would have had his cap space last summer.
 
True, but then again, Penn was the cap guy, and I imagine he crafted the idea to try and have Darius medically retired. Had the Blazers just kept him and sat him, we would have had his cap space last summer.

I'd need Storyteller to back me up on this, but I was under the impression that the move that got Penn hired by KP in the first place was removing Miles from the deal and adding Jones and Dickau to get the exception we used for Rudy. Up until then he was a "consultant" to KP. In fact, I think KP confirmed that at the first M&G ABM had.
 
Did KP and TP sign Miles to that contract? Hell, no. PA has no one to blame but himself. In fact, Nash told Miles to go out and get an offer, which we would match. So his agent gets a six year deal at $24MM from Denver. It was then Miles voiced his displeasure, so PA decides to sign off on a six year $47MM deal. I don't recall KP pushing that deal as DPP. In fact, I don't even know if KP was here. TP sure wasn't.

Yep, thanks to PA's mancrush on Darius Miles, we ended up outbidding ourselves, by a HUGE amount to resign Miles. Nobody else was willing to give Miles anything close to what PA did. If Paul Allen wants to blame anyone for anything involving Darius Miles, he needs to look in the mirror and see the idiot that insisted on giving Miles that huge contract in the first place.

That's a move most owners won't make against each other, as it cost PA $9MM.

Actually, I think it's closer to $27 million. It was $9 million a year for the final two year's of Miles' contract, plus a 100% luxury tax match for the first year.

BNM
 
Exactly how was that going to happen?

IIRC, KP said the original trade was ZBo and Miles for Francis and Rose. Then, Penn told him about the fancy CBA maneuvering you could do to get rid of Jones and Dickau instead of Miles for Francis and Frye...making it 3-for-2 in our favor and getting us the exception we used for Jones (to get Rudy's pick from the penny-pinching Suns, who didn't want just a 3M check).
 
KP didn't trade Miles to NY when he could have been included in the Zach deal for Malik Rose.

KP and Penn told Allen that Miles would come off the salary cap so the team should have him medically retire instead of keeping him on the roster to move in a trade.

Hey, I was as pissed as anyone when Miles wasn't included in that deal, but that's triage after your leg has been blown off. That's not on KP. Besides, we don't know that deal was on the table; we've only heard rumors.

As for medically retiring him, as I explained before, it was a set of unlikely circumstances that occurred to mess that up. And any contract we could have moved in him a trade for would have been worse by that point. It wouldn't have fixed our cap issue.

Again, Miles was Allen's pretty little pet. He wants to be hands on when everything goes well, but then tells Nash to sign him for twice his market value and now blames it on KP? I call bullshit.
 
True, but then again, Penn was the cap guy, and I imagine he crafted the idea to try and have Darius medically retired. Had the Blazers just kept him and sat him, we would have had his cap space last summer.

Actually, Miles comes off our books June 30th of this year.
 
I'd need Storyteller to back me up on this, but I was under the impression that the move that got Penn hired by KP in the first place was removing Miles from the deal and adding Jones and Dickau to get the exception we used for Rudy. Up until then he was a "consultant" to KP. In fact, I think KP confirmed that at the first M&G ABM had.

I thought it was removing Webster, not Miles.
 
Actually, Miles comes off our books June 30th of this year.

Ah, thanks. I guess I never knew about Miles potentially being a part of the Knick deal. As you stated though, Allen has only himself to blame for any missteps involving Miles.
 
Yep, thanks to PA's mancrush on Darius Miles, we ended up outbidding ourselves, by a HUGE amount to resign Miles. Nobody else was willing to give Miles anything close to what PA did. If Paul Allen wants to blame anyone for anything involving Darius Miles, he needs to look in the mirror and see the idiot that insisted on giving Miles that huge contract in the first place.



Actually, I think it's closer to $27 million. It was $9 million a year for the final two year's of Miles' contract, plus a 100% luxury tax match for the first year.

BNM

BNM, thanks for the monetary correction. You're 100% correct. Repped. There used to be an unwritten rule that owners don't screw each other out of money like that.
 
From what I remember, KP had Miles included to NY, but Paul Allen said no. PAUL didn't want to trade Miles. Then, KP shifted it to include Webster, and THAT was when Penn brought up the TPE which could get Jones and Rudy. Paul can't be mad about the lack of inclusion of Miles when he never wanted to see him traded in the first place.

I also highly doubt Paul's mad we didn't trade RLEC, and that that's leading to KP being fired, since that move saved Paul a decent chunk of money, and it was rumored he didn't want to take on extra pieces with Gerald Wallace in a deal.
 

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