Jason Quick vs CJ McCollum

[Lanny]

Rumor has it that NBCSNW revoked his return ticket.

Wishful thinking.

 

[Lanny]

Boy this is some circuitous logic you're spouting.

So me saying CJ led our team in flagrant fouls has what to do with Devin Booker?

No wonder the OLive forum died with your kind of riveting discussion.

A little personal, don't you think?

 

[Lanny]

It's irrelevant. And besides. How should I know? Who in their right mind watches Devin Booker and the Suns play? Quick has probably been on the court for every single on of CJ's games in his career.

Quick wears the opposite of rose colored glasses.

 

[THE HCP]

I don't think Quick was incorrect here.

He was wrong for stating it, but it had merit.

CJ has had 3-4 instances over the last 2 years where he's committed a hard foul in the upper shoulder/head area. He's following the play & knocks the opposing player off balance.

I'm fine with hard fouls (even flagrant) from the front. If they are from behind (like CJ has done) they 'border on cheap and dirty'.

100 games a season........ so you say CJ has commited a hard foul 3 times in 400 games and you say he is being cheap and dirty? THREE times in FOUR HUNDRED games? man CJ is the least dirty player you will ever find in the league. Sorry man, I believe you are incorrect with your assumption.

 

[jlprk]

A little personal, don't you think?

It's just very noticeable that the number of status-quoers has increased about 50% with the influx of O-Livers.

But it's okay. If I can lift 16 tons of deadwood on my shoulders, I can carry another 8. This is why Denny pays me the big bucks.

 

[illmatic99]

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Apparently this discussion has you all butthurt so I will bow out now.

Clearly

 

[BBert]

For the record, I thought what CJ did on that play in question was pretty damn dirty and clearly out of frustration. He was manhandled on one end of the floor, and didn't get a call. So he sprinted down and shoved a guy while he was in the air. And it isn't the first time he's done this. He has tied for the lead on our team in flagrant fouls committed the past three years (2, 1, 1). This is kinda unusual from a guy who is 6'3. It's not many, but he sometimes lets his frustration get the better of him.

My thoughts as well (although I didn't think it rose to the level of "dirty"). CJ got hammered, we haven't exactly been getting the calls in previous games, and he was frustrated. It was a message foul as much to the refs as it was to the Pels.

OTOH: Four in 3 years? If the Blazers weren't such choir boys, that play wouldn't even be a thing for Quick to comment on.

 

[BBert]

We need to flagrant foul more.

Are we last in the league? Pathetic!

 

[noknobs]

100 games a season........ so you say CJ has commited a hard foul 3 times in 400 games and you say he is being cheap and dirty? THREE times in FOUR HUNDRED games? man CJ is the least dirty player you will ever find in the league. Sorry man, I believe you are incorrect with your assumption.

Seriously, I don't even know why this got brought up. CJ is not a dirty/cheap player.

I also don't blame him for his reaction. Calling a professional athlete dirty is just about the worst thing you can call them. What an odd comment for Quick to make.

 

[BBert]

Collins is hitting the weights this summer. I nominate him.

Collins will commit hard fouls as necessary, I have no doubt of that. But we don't want him to be "dirty".

That should be Meyers' job

 

[Reep]

Collins will commit hard fouls as necessary, I have no doubt of that. But we don't want him to be "dirty".

That should be Meyers' job

Yeah, just hard.

 

[Natebishop3]

CJ is cheap and dirty? Nah.

CJ is a ball hog who doesn't pass enough? Yes.

 

[BBert]

100 games a season........ so you say CJ has commited a hard foul 3 times in 400 games and you say he is being cheap and dirty? THREE times in FOUR HUNDRED games? man CJ is the least dirty player you will ever find in the league. Sorry man, I believe you are incorrect with your assumption.

As someone else posted, it's the "always" part that's so egregious on Quick's part. Was that particular play "borderline cheap and dirty"? That's debatable. But the "always" part isn't. It's not only wrong, in this context it's "borderline" character assassination. I can see why CJ was testy about it.

 

[BBert]

Yeah, just hard.

That's so great that you would post that. When I posted that comment, Laimbeer was the player image that was going through my mind

 

[dviss1]

You could be on to something there... Everyone is assuming that Quick's tweet refers to CJ's on-court play, but read it again.

"Frustration foul by CJ, who has always bordered on cheap and dirty."

It's merely insinuated, through lazy writing, that he's a cheap and dirty player. We can only hope and dream that CJ kicked Quick's ass in private at some point, or pulled a chair out from under him, which is why none of us agree with the false narrative that CJ's a dirty player.

The way I read it grammatically, is that CJ the person has bordered on on cheap and dirty, just committed a frustration foul.

 

[dviss1]

I've been getting the same vibe. Just seems smug and cocky now... his interview with Chris Haynes kind of painted him in a bad light.

You gotta be kidding me. I didn't think that at all. So instead of making a blanket statement, why not just say how the interview made you feel?

 

[BonesJones]

You gotta be kidding me. I didn't think that at all. So instead of making a blanket statement, why not just say how the interview made you feel?

Wasn't that implied? What I said was how I felt?

 

[dviss1]

Wasn't that implied? What I said was how I felt?

No. What was implied was that the general consensus was that

"his interview with Chris Haynes kind of painted him in a bad light"

Which infers that most everyone thinks that.

 

[BonesJones]

No. What was implied was that the general consensus was that

"his interview with Chris Haynes kind of painted him in a bad light"

Which infers that most everyone thinks that.

Yeah if you ignore what I said right before that.. I just said "I've been getting a bad vibe from him", and then stated an example as to why.