JaVale McGee

[Mediocre Man]

I realize it was against our incredibly shitty centers, but why don't we want McGee again?

Athletic big who doesn't think he is a jump shooter who rebounds and intimidates the opposition on defense. Sounds like our guy.

 

[Natebishop3]

I realize it was against our incredibly shitty centers, but why don't we want McGee again?

Athletic big who doesn't think he is a jump shooter who rebounds and intimidates the opposition on defense. Sounds like our guy.

Dumb as a box of rocks.

 

[julius]

And is the star of shaqtin a fool for a reason

 

[Natebishop3]

And is the star of shaqtin a fool for a reason

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[Natebishop3]

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[Mediocre Man]

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#1 sent a message. The shot was going down anyway

#2 was dumb, but he was pushing the ball

#3 he missed a dunk but drew a foul on the illegal pick

#4 bad pass (not his fault) and poor post move (like no one we know has ever made a crappy post move?)

#5 Not paying attention, but running back on defense

How is he so bad?

 

[Mediocre Man]

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The one's that aren't duplicates, are just plays all players make. bad passes, losing your balance, missing lay ups.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I realize it was against our incredibly shitty centers, but why don't we want McGee again?

Athletic big who doesn't think he is a jump shooter who rebounds and intimidates the opposition on defense. Sounds like our guy.

Very low basketball IQ.

 

[Natebishop3]

#1 sent a message. The shot was going down anyway

#2 was dumb, but he was pushing the ball

#3 he missed a dunk but drew a foul on the illegal pick

#4 bad pass (not his fault) and poor post move (like no one we know has ever made a crappy post move?)

#5 Not paying attention, but running back on defense

How is he so bad?

He's just kind of a big doof. That's what the videos illustrate. Tons of raw talent, but very doofy. Reminds me of Travis Outlaw a bit.

 

[julius]

Anyone else love how MM seems to defend McGee here for making boneheaded plays (after being in the league 5 years), and yet takes any opportunity to pile on Leonard for being A: white B: a poor defender and C: white?

 

[Natebishop3]

Anyone else love how MM seems to defend McGee here for making boneheaded plays (after being in the league 5 years), and yet takes any opportunity to pile on Leonard for being A: white B: a poor defender and C: white?

You forgot stiff.

 

[julius]

You forgot stiff.

well, the C: white kind of implies that.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Nards is garbage, you just can't teach black.

 

[craigehlo]

Dumb as a box of rocks.

Still smarter than Meyers.

 

[Natebishop3]

Still smarter than Meyers.

I would put money on Nards in a spelling contest with JaVale.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Anyone else love how MM seems to defend McGee here for making boneheaded plays (after being in the league 5 years), and yet takes any opportunity to pile on Leonard for being A: white B: a poor defender and C: white?

Well Leonard is a poor defender

 

[julius]

Well Leonard is a poor defender

In his first year in the league. And everyone knows, tall white Americans never improve after their rookie years.

 

[Mediocre Man]

In his first year in the league. And everyone knows, tall white Americans never improve after their rookie years.

I went on basketball reference to compare some centers. I compared Drummond (19), Zeller (23), Ezeli (23), Vucavic (21), Valanciunas (20) and Leonard (20) rookie seasons.

Leonard was right in the middle in FG%, scoring and PER, but easliy the worst at blocks, rebounding, defensive rating


Could he improve his defense? Yes. Is he still a horrible defender that is already behind other rookies who will improve as well? Yes

 

[BBert]

Looking around the league at our options, cost, etc., I'd take McGee. He's athletic and a capable defender who has a mental lapse now and then. I can live with that. I'd also keep Myrs Lynrd, for the record.

 

[tlongII]

Hey I wanted Drummond, but he wasn't available.

 

[Denny Crane]

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#5!

 

[Boob-No-More]

Well Leonard is a poor defender

So is McGee - after 5 years in the league. The difference is Leonard has a chance to get better. You constantly bash Leaonard for his poor instincts on defense. McGee's are worse. He tries to block EVERYTHING and constantly leaves his man wide open under the basket. Gives up WAY too many easy baskets and offensive rebounds. Forget the individual stats and look at his advanced team stats on 82games.com. There's a reason he rides the pine behind Kosta Koufos. The guy kills his team when he's on the court. In terms of team defense, we'd be better resigning Hickson. Seriously, that's how bad McGee is.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

So is McGee - after 5 years in the league. The difference is Leonard has a chance to get better. You constantly bash Leaonard for his poor instincts on defense. McGee's are worse. He tries to block EVERYTHING and constantly leaves his man wide open under the basket. Gives up WAY too many easy baskets and offensive rebounds. Forget the individual stats and look at his advanced team stats on 82games.com. There's a reason he rides the pine behind Kosta Koufos. The guy kills his team when he's on the court. In terms of team defense, we'd be better resigning Hickson. Seriously, that's how bad McGee is.

BNM

defensive rating and defensive stats say differently.

 

[Eastoff]

I went on basketball reference to compare some centers. I compared Drummond (19), Zeller (23), Ezeli (23), Vucavic (21), Valanciunas (20) and Leonard (20) rookie seasons.

Leonard was right in the middle in FG%, scoring and PER, but easliy the worst at blocks, rebounding, defensive rating


Could he improve his defense? Yes. Is he still a horrible defender that is already behind other rookies who will improve as well? Yes

This might be overanalyzing, but I'd be curious to see how many of those rookie centers played only one season of basketball after reaching a height about 6'5"

 

[Boob-No-More]

defensive rating and defensive stats say differently.

More individual stats...

Did you go to 82games.com and look at his on court/off court stats? His team is -6.1 per 48 minutes when he's on the court. Koufos is +6.9. That's a difference of 13 points per 48 between Koufos and McGee, and it's why Koufos starts and McGee gets 18 mpg.

So, what's more important, gaudy individual stats or winning? If it's the former, we might as well keep Hickson. We won't suck any less on defense and he'll be a lot cheaper.

BNM

 

[Harry's Raincoat]

MM - we all know and agree that filling our center position with someone better should be our most high priority this offseason. Although McGee would make us slightly better than we are today....its not enough. He isn't going to help us get to the next level.

I hope Olshey resists the notion of just making change for change sake. We need to get the right player in that 5 spot.

 

[Reep]

At least McGee has upside, which is more that some of the options. I guess I would rather have a guy who plays great 80% and is a bone head 20%, than a guy who can't play at a high level at all.

He's also from my alma mater (Nevada)--although that hasn't boded well in the past.

 

[magnifier661]

I'd take McGee! He maybe dumb; but when you already have two good leaders in Aldridge and Lillard; he would fit in nicely.

What we need is a player that intimidates the guards from trying to score in the paint. Aldridge is a great one on one defender; while he is poor at help defense. McGee is a poor man in man defender but a great help defender. I think they would work great together.

The added plus would be Lillard able to lob for dunks on three options. Batum, Aldridge and McGee all are great finishers off the lob. It would be such a headache for teams to defend that option while Lillard is so good at shooting from the perimeter.

He is the best option because Denver is over luxury tax penalty. I bet they would take freeland, a second rounder and cap space for him.

 

[magnifier661]

After this deal; then Portland can retain maynor and sign a mle player. Leonard would be the first big off the bench and he would be able to play both positions. Use the first rounder to grab a pf/c combo and we are done!

 

[KeepOnRollin]

It doesn't have to be McGee, if you can't get him then I would take any of the other 2 Centers on DEN's roster.