Jay-Z Gonna Bring You Some Nets … Including One Named Lebron?

[Black Republican]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ Jun 29 2008, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys better hope to be in a winning situation.

LeBron wouldn't want to come to a team that isn't competing.</div>
Exactly

 

[Petey]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobimel @ Jun 29 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Who are you kidding? Amare will demand at least 15-17 million and LBJ will want 18-20. You're underestimating. They'll both want max contracts. Together that's around 35 million dollars out of about 55 million. That leaves you with 20 million dollars for 12 players, which is good if you want a scrub supporting cast.</div>

That might be their average over the life of the contract, but won't be their starting. There are limits on $$ per players.

Edit: Found the figures on Coon's.
http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#11

LBJ will have 7 years under his belt, that's 30% of the cap. Amare with 8 years under his belt qualifies for the same 30% of the cap.

If they dump Carter, it's possible they could acquire both Amare and LBJ. With some of the young guys on rookie deals it's possible to put together a squad. Look at what the Bulls and Lakers have done in the past 20 years with that method...


-Petey

 

[bbwchingy0007]

Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.

 

[Real]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

The Celtics proved to be the best team in the NBA last year, I don't think Sasha could change that.

I think the Celtics (and Nets) should be worried if the Cavs acquire Michael Redd.

 

[Petro3]

In 2010 the team the Nets could put around LeBron has to look better then what he has in Cleveland. I think Yi needs to be part of that Nets team.

Let's take a wild guess and say LeBron’s domestic endorsement deals would go up +$20mill if he played in New York.

Let's take another wild guess and say LeBron’s International (China) endorsement deals would go up +$20mill if he played with Yi.

Jay-Z should be able to paint a real pretty picture for LeBron:

More money then he would make in Cleveland (wild guess +$40 mill)
More planetary stardom (and brand recognition) then he would have in Cleveland
A better chance at rings then he has in Cleveland

All taking place in the house that LeBron built.

 

[J-HoAgZ]

There is soo much hype about LeBron coming here now that it's almost like all of us expect him to be a Net next year. Hopefully it happens, personally I'm getting a feeling that we end up blowing it and not landing LeBron but land someone like Wade.

 

[bbwchingy0007]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jun 30 2008, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

The Celtics proved to be the best team in the NBA last year, I don't think Sasha could change that.

I think the Celtics (and Nets) should be worried if the Cavs acquire Michael Redd.
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I don't think Sasha would have made the Cavs better than the Celtics, but the Cavs came within a few missed shots in Game 7 of beating the Celtics. Had Sasha been playing well, he could have been the difference.

 

[infinet]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

That will never happen so long as Danny Ferry runs that team. He's in that 2nd tier of awful GM's right behind Chris Wallace and Kevin McHale.

 

[bbwchingy0007]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (infinet @ Jun 30 2008, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 07:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

That will never happen so long as Danny Ferry runs that team. He's in that 2nd tier of awful GM's right behind Chris Wallace and Kevin McHale.
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I think that's harsh; he inherited a really poor team with virtually no tradable assets to make a supporting cast for LeBron. His drafting has been iffy, but nothing terrible. He finally has some pieces that might allow the Cavs to acquire some good players to back LeBron up, notable (I think) circa $25m in expiring contracts that he can shift to teams wanting cap space. This is Ferry's make or break year: he has to get a supporting cast for LeBron and it is known that he has made enquiries about Redd, JO and Vince Carter as well as Jason Kidd earlier in the year. It was not through lack of trying that no-one has been acquired. Also, it is well-known by Clevelanders that Ferry is good at working under the radar - there a very few leaks whilst he is formulating a deal, unlike many other teams. So sometimes it seems as though not much is getting done, but I can assure you that this is not the case.

 

[Petey]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 30 2008, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Isn't there a new CBA due for 2010?

Also, I think it largely depends on the Cavaliers' ability to put together a team capable of really supporting LeBron and being dominant in the NBA. In fairness, they are probably only two players away from that - a true PG and a secondary option. Other than that they have 5 big men (3 vets and 2 younger players) and a few up and coming guards. I truly believe that the missing link for the Cavs this year was Sasha Pavlovic; if he played the way he did last postseason, the Cavs would have beaten the Celtics in that Playoff series and might have had a shot at beating the Lakers. If Sasha can get his game together, and the Cavs acquire a good PG, they're sorted.</div>

Yes. But how much could it change?

Even if it was 33 or 35% think any team that could, would hesitate to offer that to James or Amare?

-Petey

 

[Netted]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 29 2008, 06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Threads like this depress me...

In all honesty, though, cap space in 2010 doesn't necessarily mean LeBron; aren't a lot of the players from the Class of 2003 going to be FAs in 2010 since a lot of them followed LeBron's lead.

Also, if you read Cleveland's news and forums, they have a different picture of this situation: they recall LeBron saying that he wants to be a one-team player and to put his native Akron on the map. I hope that's the case, but you never know.</div>
Don't hold an 18 year old to anything they say. Things change as people grow older.

Lebron has seen the world now. He may be sick of Akron.

 

[J-HoAgZ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Jun 29 2008, 05:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Threads like this depress me...

In all honesty, though, cap space in 2010 doesn't necessarily mean LeBron; aren't a lot of the players from the Class of 2003 going to be FAs in 2010 since a lot of them followed LeBron's lead.

Also, if you read Cleveland's news and forums, they have a different picture of this situation: they recall LeBron saying that he wants to be a one-team player and to put his native Akron on the map. I hope that's the case, but you never know.</div>
Brooklyn > Akron
Jigga > Ohio
$ in BK >> $ in Cleveland
Nets > Cavs

and he clearly doesn't care too much about reppin his hometown considering he rocked a Yankee fitted to the Cleveland playoff game.

 

[go nets]

i feel like we need someone to make a countdown to freeagency 2010, i seriously cannot wait if the day comes when we see LBJ press conference and him holding up the nets #23 jersey