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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As Jay-Z made a toast next to his co-host, LeBron James, at a VIP dinner during All-Star weekend, he spoke of branding, about a new world order of celebrity businessmen. They declared this the Two Kings dinner in New Orleans and the star-studded list of invitees included NBA owners and stars, music label executives and A-list performers. Jay-Z talked of a tomorrow when these two monuments to music and basketball will transform the rules of engagement for the iconic performer, one witness said. He talked of making history.</div>

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-l...o&type=lgns

You can't help yourself from smiling when reading that article.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>What’s unnerving to Cleveland is that Jay-Z happens to be a part owner of the New Jersey Nets with unlimited access to James’ heart, mind and ambitions.</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>“I think that LeBron will have to look long and hard about leaving Cleveland,” Vaccaro said. “Dan Gilbert and the city have embraced him. They’ve done everything they can to make a championship-type trade. Danny Ferry did a good job with that. But knowing LeBron and knowing the world as I see it, the most appetizing thing would not be the New York Knicks for him, but the Nets with Jay-Z. “Jay-Z is the one person that I can put in a parallel universe with LeBron from where they started and where they are now. If LeBron has a role model in life, it’s Jay-Z. I’ve never been around a more perfect match of young genius. What would be better than these two kids in New York?</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets are clearing cap space for a free-agent class that includes James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, but James is the unmistakable target. So much so, the Nets have an internal business plan for the move into the new Brooklyn arena that includes a modest section on his eventual recruitment, estimates of his marketing worth and the salary-cap space that needs to be cleared for his signing.</div>

It begins...
 
i live 10mins away from the izod center now and if we get lebron ill make the trip to brooklyn just to watch him play

life would be grand
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Feb 25 2008, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i live 10mins away from the izod center now and if we get lebron ill make the trip to brooklyn just to watch him play

life would be grand
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same here.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[free-agent class that includes James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh</div>

If the Nets get Chris Bosh, I'll go on a rampage.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 25 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[free-agent class that includes James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh</div>

If the Nets get Chris Bosh, I'll go on a rampage.
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Bosh won't leave he loves Toronto, and loves what the team is doing
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Feb 25 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 25 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[free-agent class that includes James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh</div>

If the Nets get Chris Bosh, I'll go on a rampage.
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Bosh won't leave he loves Toronto, and loves what the team is doing
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I think he would leave Toronto but highly unlikely.

If he left he'd either go to Dallas, San Antonio or Houston to be closer to home IMO.
 
I have a feeling we have a good chance of signing Lebron. There's also that possibility he might want to stay loyal with the Cavs, but if that doesn't happen, we're pretty much set. Sure the Knicks can be a bit of a threat, but in the end I don't see him choosing the Knicks over the Nets.

What joy would it be to get Lebron. One can only hope.
 
If we signed LeBron, I would be the happiest guy. If for nothing else, this is probably the best reason any nay-sayers have to staying loyal to the Nets, without looking like bandwagon hoppers, haha.
 
If the Cavs can consistently make the Eastern Conference Finals, with one good shot at the NBA Finals, I think LeBron will find it hard to leave. A lot depends on further acquisitions that Ferry makes between now and the 2010 offseason. One attraction for LeBron to stay in Cleveland is the legacy he would get from doing so. Many of the all-time legends in various sports have been one-team players. (Albeit not all the legends). If LeBron does want to get out of Cleveland, I hope he'll at least have the decency to tell the front office during the 2009-10 season so they can trade him and get something back for him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Feb 25 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 25 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[free-agent class that includes James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh</div>

If the Nets get Chris Bosh, I'll go on a rampage.
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Bosh won't leave he loves Toronto, and loves what the team is doing
</div>
exatcly.
Nice try guys.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 25 2008, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have a feeling we have a good chance of signing Lebron. There's also that possibility he might want to stay loyal with the Cavs, but if that doesn't happen, we're pretty much set. Sure the Knicks can be a bit of a threat, but in the end I don't see him choosing the Knicks over the Nets.

What joy would it be to get Lebron. One can only hope.</div>

media called him traitor when he donned the Yankee cap, think that'll work against them. Those guys are already bending over backwards for him, clearing the hallway before he enters, clearing dining areas when he's ready to eat, clearing the walk way to the court, when it's time to warm up.....the crap they do for him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chingy0007 @ Feb 25 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the Cavs can consistently make the Eastern Conference Finals, with one good shot at the NBA Finals, I think LeBron will find it hard to leave. A lot depends on further acquisitions that Ferry makes between now and the 2010 offseason. One attraction for LeBron to stay in Cleveland is the legacy he would get from doing so. Many of the all-time legends in various sports have been one-team players. (Albeit not all the legends). If LeBron does want to get out of Cleveland, I hope he'll at least have the decency to tell the front office during the 2009-10 season so they can trade him and get something back for him.</div>

I think they would be able to tell by at least then when inquiring about an extension. I'd guess they have some type of clue as they can't give him one yet, but with a talent like that it's been discussed.

Though I don't think the Cavs have to worry much about it now. Who knows what Jay-Z will be doing in 2 years from now, let alone a month from now.

-Petey
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (hustler @ Feb 25 2008, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Feb 25 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Feb 25 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>[free-agent class that includes James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh</div>

If the Nets get Chris Bosh, I'll go on a rampage.
</div>
Bosh won't leave he loves Toronto, and loves what the team is doing
</div>
exatcly.
Nice try guys.

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PG : Devin Harris
SG : LeBron James
SF : Richard Jefferson
PF : Nenad Krstic
C : Josh Boone

Bench :
O.J. Mayo
Marcus Williams
Sean Williams
Stromile Swift
Vince Carter?
DeSagana Diop
Maurice Ager
Trenton Hassell

HELLO NBA FINALS

 
I wouldn't want Chris Bosh on my team because I think he's the most overrated player in the NBA [/duckandcover]

haha jk, but seriously I'd say the Nets are positioning themselves to be the front runners if Lebron leaves Cleveland. No other team that I can think of can offer him the resources, connections, market, money, and talent around that time.

By sucking now and grabbing picks we're going to get good young talent to add to a roster that contains Devin, RJ, Diop (?), Krstic (?), Boone Tho, Sean, Marcus, Ager (?), advance all those guy a couple of years...and we're a VERY attractive team for The King.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Feb 25 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if we get lebron, i dont know what i'd do</div>
Come outta the closet?




Yall better checkout Bron's debut album next year(3rd quarter).
 
This is still a pipedream, though. It seems like every year there's some rebuilding team that's positioning themselves for that big splash: the Knicks always seemed to be targeting those big names, the Lakers were supposedly making a run at every up and coming big man over the past few years(Yao, Amare, Bosh), and now the Nets, by virtue of Jay-Z, apparently have the inside track on Lebron in a couple seasons.

But, its all hype and very little substance. Despite all the rumours and speculation, I can't remember the last superstar that, in his prime, left his team through free agency. Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas come to mind, but both players left just before they hit superstardom and their teams were hamstrung financially. Rashard Lewis maybe, but his former team was in cost-cutting mode and he was given a ridiculous contract. Marbury did as well, but he's a headcase and not really all that good when it comes down to it. I'm actually brainstorming out loud here and can't come up with a single player.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 25 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is still a pipedream, though. It seems like every year there's some rebuilding team that's positioning themselves for that big splash: the Knicks always seemed to be targeting those big names, the Lakers were supposedly making a run at every up and coming big man over the past few years(Yao, Amare, Bosh), and now the Nets, by virtue of Jay-Z, apparently have the inside track on Lebron in a couple seasons.

But, its all hype and very little substance. Despite all the rumours and speculation, I can't remember the last superstar that, in his prime, left his team through free agency. Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas come to mind, but both players left just before they hit superstardom and their teams were hamstrung financially. Rashard Lewis maybe, but his former team was in cost-cutting mode and he was given a ridiculous contract. Marbury did as well, but he's a headcase and not really all that good when it comes down to it. I'm actually brainstorming out loud here and can't come up with a single player.</div>
Yup, well said seems like a pipedream, just by being a Laker fan there have been many of this but none have ever happen.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 25 2008, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is still a pipedream, though. It seems like every year there's some rebuilding team that's positioning themselves for that big splash: the Knicks always seemed to be targeting those big names, the Lakers were supposedly making a run at every up and coming big man over the past few years(Yao, Amare, Bosh), and now the Nets, by virtue of Jay-Z, apparently have the inside track on Lebron in a couple seasons.

But, its all hype and very little substance. Despite all the rumours and speculation, I can't remember the last superstar that, in his prime, left his team through free agency. Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas come to mind, but both players left just before they hit superstardom and their teams were hamstrung financially. Rashard Lewis maybe, but his former team was in cost-cutting mode and he was given a ridiculous contract. Marbury did as well, but he's a headcase and not really all that good when it comes down to it. I'm actually brainstorming out loud here and can't come up with a single player.</div>

Grant Hill. But as noted, with your examples, he is the oddity.

-Petey
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ghost of Jason Collins @ Feb 26 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Feb 26 2008, 06:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>
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All-Star Weekend</div>

Sean Carter + The King + Brooklyn = $$$ for everyone.
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^^

except the Cavs
 
I doubt that Vince Carter will be with the team by then so I could care less what the nets do at that time.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 25 2008, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is still a pipedream, though. It seems like every year there's some rebuilding team that's positioning themselves for that big splash: the Knicks always seemed to be targeting those big names, the Lakers were supposedly making a run at every up and coming big man over the past few years(Yao, Amare, Bosh), and now the Nets, by virtue of Jay-Z, apparently have the inside track on Lebron in a couple seasons.

But, its all hype and very little substance. Despite all the rumours and speculation, I can't remember the last superstar that, in his prime, left his team through free agency. Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas come to mind, but both players left just before they hit superstardom and their teams were hamstrung financially. Rashard Lewis maybe, but his former team was in cost-cutting mode and he was given a ridiculous contract. Marbury did as well, but he's a headcase and not really all that good when it comes down to it. I'm actually brainstorming out loud here and can't come up with a single player.</div>

This guy use to play for the Magic and left as a free agent

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 26 2008, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 25 2008, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is still a pipedream, though. It seems like every year there's some rebuilding team that's positioning themselves for that big splash: the Knicks always seemed to be targeting those big names, the Lakers were supposedly making a run at every up and coming big man over the past few years(Yao, Amare, Bosh), and now the Nets, by virtue of Jay-Z, apparently have the inside track on Lebron in a couple seasons.

But, its all hype and very little substance. Despite all the rumours and speculation, I can't remember the last superstar that, in his prime, left his team through free agency. Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas come to mind, but both players left just before they hit superstardom and their teams were hamstrung financially. Rashard Lewis maybe, but his former team was in cost-cutting mode and he was given a ridiculous contract. Marbury did as well, but he's a headcase and not really all that good when it comes down to it. I'm actually brainstorming out loud here and can't come up with a single player.</div>

This guy use to play for the Magic and left as a free agent

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Wasn't that before the current form of the CBA that has a limit to player contracts? Since then, almost all superstar free agents have re-signed with their old team. I'm not saying Lebron won't leave, but the evidence suggests that its a longshot.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 26 2008, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 26 2008, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Feb 25 2008, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is still a pipedream, though. It seems like every year there's some rebuilding team that's positioning themselves for that big splash: the Knicks always seemed to be targeting those big names, the Lakers were supposedly making a run at every up and coming big man over the past few years(Yao, Amare, Bosh), and now the Nets, by virtue of Jay-Z, apparently have the inside track on Lebron in a couple seasons.

But, its all hype and very little substance. Despite all the rumours and speculation, I can't remember the last superstar that, in his prime, left his team through free agency. Tracy McGrady and Gilbert Arenas come to mind, but both players left just before they hit superstardom and their teams were hamstrung financially. Rashard Lewis maybe, but his former team was in cost-cutting mode and he was given a ridiculous contract. Marbury did as well, but he's a headcase and not really all that good when it comes down to it. I'm actually brainstorming out loud here and can't come up with a single player.</div>

This guy use to play for the Magic and left as a free agent

</div>
Wasn't that before the current form of the CBA that has a limit to player contracts? Since then, almost all superstar free agents have re-signed with their old team. I'm not saying Lebron won't leave, but the evidence suggests that its a longshot.
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Yes it was a couple of CBA's ago, but that still didn't make it a frequent occurrence.

The point is that a transcendent player did it before. LBJ has demonstrated that you have to toss convention on its ear when discussing him and his plans.
 
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