Jaynes: Unbalanced trade coming. BE: It could be for Nash

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I think it's too much, but I think it's close.


if I think it's too much, I can't wait to hear the homers talk about this
 
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Nash would be AWESOME on this team....it'd be like having Scottie Pippen here..just the bball IQ would be off the charts. I probably wouldn't though since I like Rudy and Batum is a good trade asset. Nash is too old. We should probably try to get Grant Hill too or something if that works out then.
 
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"Dwight Jaynes expects ..... "
This is just one mans guess... a man looking to bring eyes to his blog.

Portland sends Andre Miller, Rudy Fernandez, Nicolas Batum, a first round pick and $3 million to Phoenix for Steve Nash.
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Nash is good, but I think that's a little too much and I dont think this would help us win a championship any sooner.
 
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Jaynes did not mention Nash at all. That was Ben.
 
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I know there are many haters, but Dwight has proven to know a bit in the past.
 
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Unfortunately, a trade for Nash doesn't meet what Jaynes says (and I agree with) the Blazers need in return in an unbalanced trade:

Well, certainly if Miller is dealt, a point guard needs to come back this way. My guess is that Portland would be looking for a point guard with a combination of youth and experience who can score and distribute. I'll give you a day or two to chew on that before I give you my thoughts on who that might be.
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Guesses as to whom Jaynes will suggest?
 
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None of those are better PGs than Dre now. I don't understand why that isn't part of the criteria when looking for a PG.
 
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I think you can add Tony Parker to the list. At 29 he's not really young, but he's not ancient either. The Spurs are going to need to shake things up if they don't want to become irrelevant, and that's never been Pop's style.
 
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While I think it's probably too much to give up I understand the rationale. If we have a healthy Oden, Nash would make us an instant championship contender because of his outside shooting ability.
 
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I wonder if Buchanan is going to come out and deny this too. He's been doing that for every other rumor that has come out in the past few weeks.
 
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yuyuza1 said:
I wonder if Buchanan is going to come out and deny this too. He's been doing that for every other rumor that has come out in the past few weeks.
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Nothing to deny. It's just an idea that Ben from BlazersEdge threw out there.
 
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yuyuza1 said:
None of those are better PGs than Dre now. I don't understand why that isn't part of the criteria when looking for a PG.
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Because Miller is old. If we can get a younger player that is his equal now, then we're going to be better off at the position going into the future.

Ed O.
 
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I would sacrifice Batum for 3 years of Nash upgrades over Miller. I don't know if you guys are properly thinking about what a 50/40/90 PG would do for our offense.

I'm not saying it's a great long-term move, but nothing at all has shown that PA and LM are looking long-term this summer. It's "win now. NO, I mean NOW!" Other than saying he wants a 3 year PG.

Stockton played until 41.
 
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I'd prefer to keep Miller as a backup, but not for the right player in return. You gotta realize that most players younger than him aren't going to be as good for this team for at least a few years. The players that are exceptions to that are almost unanimously untouchable. Nash is one that may not be though. People don't realize how many different great things Dre does for this team, and how good of a PG he really is.Unfortunately, his biggest weakness, shooting, is something we really need from our PG. Nash is a good fit with that respect.
 
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You have to realize that if for the very real possibility there is no NBA season, Miller walks for nothing.
 
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I think you can get this done for just Batum and Miller for Nash. While I hate to give up Batum, there's just not going to be a lot of PT for him with Wallace starting and Roy coming back. I think getting Nash for a year isn't a bad idea. No one is going to trade us an up and coming PG for what we want to give up. Nash can shoot from the outside, which I think Nate really wants to have to free up Roy and Aldridge. If Nash works out, they can resign him for another 2 years or so and if not, he walks. His money comes off the books and Paul and DWill are free agents we could pursue. For all those who say he is too old, how did it work out for Dallas with JKidd? I think a chance for him to go deep in the playoffs would be a good motivator and we would just need to know that he would need rest during the regular season. A solid back up PG, other than Mills, would be a good investment, kind of how Barea was used for Kidd.
 
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BTW, PHX is about to buy out VC, so they are clearly in cost-cutting mode. (actually, when haven't they been in cost-cutting mode?)
 
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I know some Magic fans that want to do Miller/Batum for Nelson/Anderson.
 
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I'm not convinced Nash will play at a high level for very much longer.
 
Jaynes: You may have already seen this video on our site that features Nate McMillan reiterating his statement that he's looking for players in the prime of their careers. He thinks this team is close to being a contender and if that's the case, it's time to make the sort of a move a contending team makes.

He's said several times he thinks the team has enough young players and enough old players. It's time for a few more Gerald Wallace types, you know -- guys in the sweet spot of their career.

You won't find that in a draft. Not this year and not any year.

This is a pretty weak draft in the first place. But picking where the Trail Blazers are selecting (No. 21) pretty much means it's a real long shot to get a player who could contribute right away. And the Blazers' practice facility is already thick with "project" players who are trying to make themselves into NBA players.

That's why I would expect Portland to do all it can to make a deal this week that has nothing to do with moving up in the draft. I would think the Trail Blazers' wish is to move picks, players and anything else it has for a veteran player or two.

Andre Miller would be a lynchpin for that sort of a move, mainly because of his contract situation. He's in demand right now because his deal provides the ability to create immediate cap space for another team.
Portland's No. 21 draft pick doesn't mean much to anyone as far as trade value. If the Blazers make a deal, I would expect the heart of it to be players on the team's current roster. I would expect an unbalanced trade -- a two- or three-for-one deal -- with the Blazers shipping out multiple players to straighten out its unbalanced roster.

http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landingd...lazers-want-to-d=1&blockID=536108&feedID=8351

Blazers Edge:
Solely for discussion's sake, I concocted a scenario that fits the bill described involving a name who has been linked in a bunch of rumors over the last 12 months. For the sake of argument, assume roster space is properly cleared on both sides. Tell me who says no.

Portland sends Andre Miller, Rudy Fernandez, Nicolas Batum, a first round pick and $3 million to Phoenix for Steve Nash.


The Suns cash a check, add three young pieces, waive Miller to save a ton of money and then proceed with the necessary rebuild, committing to Aaron Brooks as their starter.


The Blazers double-down on the "win now at all costs" theory, getting the quality point guard and shooting they need to fill out a solid, tested starting lineup of Nash, Matthews, Wallace, Aldridge and Camby, with Roy and Oden lurking in the shadows as potential wild cards. The Blazers immediately enter negotiations to vastly overpay Nash for the final pay day of his Hall of Fame career.

From Phoenix's side, the hold up is whether Nash could draw a better offer. From Portland's side, this boils down to whether it's worth sacrificing Batum to upgrade from Andre Miller (who sat during critical stretches of the playoffs) to Nash (who can make Aldridge better just as Miller did but can also space the floor and improve Portland's ball movement).



http://www.blazersedge.com/2011/6/20/2233591/jaynes-unbalanced-trade-coming
 
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I like Nash, a lot to give up for him though for 2-3? years tops worth of play?

and I don't think this team is one player (nash) away from being an NBA contender, if Allen and mgmt really believe that then they are fucking delusional....

This team can't even get out of the 1st round...and adding Nash suddenly propels them to NBA title contenders? I don't think so.....
 
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