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Blake was signed under Nash, just like Joel. KP re-acquired him, but that might have been at Nate's request.

And KP did draft Sergio (and indeed bought a pick specially to do so) and trade for Channing Frye. And I seem to recall Jarrett Jack being "his guy" as well. I don't think Pritchard is as sentimental as people make out. Do you think that it's because of Pritchard that Nate plays Steve Blake huge minutes at the expense of Bayless, Rudy and Sergio? Because I don't.

You're right, Nash signed Blake, but that's not what my post was about. I remember reading, in the Oregonian I believe, that KP was instrumental in Blake coming here originally. Supposedly he was upset that Blake was dealt.

How did minutes or playing time come into this debate? I never mentioned anything about Nate or his rotation.
 
Travis may have been a Whitsitt pick, but for whatever reason he's certainly become a KP guy (or maybe he's a Monty Williams guy, or a Brandon's guy?). The Blake thing just makes me cringe, I heard him say on the radio (Wheel's show I think?) the other day that Blake might be one of the best point guards in the league when it comes to playing off of Brandon. That's certainly loaded with a qualifier, but it's also pretty telling where he sees him on this team.
That's straight horrifying. At least he doesn't seem to back Outlaw much. Blake can stay around if we bring in a young starting PG. If we bring in someone like Hinrich I want Blake to go and keep Bayless for sure.
 
That's straight horrifying. At least he doesn't seem to back Outlaw much. Blake can stay around if we bring in a young starting PG. If we bring in someone like Hinrich I want Blake to go and keep Bayless for sure.

You seemed opposed to this earlier when I said that if we got Sessions, I would rather package Bayless and Outlaw seeing what we could get. What made you come around?
 
...cheap-skate!!! At least budge for a FULL 12-pack!!! :cheers:

I was thinking pints at the pub, didn't know they came in 12 packs.

When you makin your next trip up north, punk?
 
If we sign Sean May with RLEC and thats it for this summer, then I think KP needs to pritchslap himself. Or I'l do it for him with a towel of Sean May's excessive post game moisture.
 
If we sign Sean May with RLEC and thats it for this summer, then I think KP needs to pritchslap himself. Or I'l do it for him with a towel of Sean May's excessive post game moisture.

RLEC is history, and Sean May is not getting $7.7 million a year from anybody at this point.
 
The Utah Jazz sent out an e-mail today (thanks to David for the tip) with the following text:

The Utah Jazz will match Portland's offer to forward Paul Millsap. Millsap, a restricted free agent, was offered a 4-year, $32 million deal last week. Portland attempted to make the deal "toxic" by offering $10.3 million due upfront. The Jazz has seven days to pay Millsap the upfront money.

Notice the word "toxic" in quotes there. What does the surrounding sentence convey? The Blazers were trying to be jerks. They failed at that, even. This is not attractive. That adjective came originally from a Jason Quick story, attributed to an unnamed source. I won't argue that the descriptor is inaccurate. I won't argue that Jason shouldn't have printed it. I will argue that this is not the image you want circulating about your front office. Things like this contribute to the growing swirl of anti-Portland chatter we're hearing (or at least hearing implied in the case of opposing front offices). The issue could have been avoided by a simple change in wording. "Front-loaded" doesn't look bad. "Difficult to match" also gets the point across. Neither of these has connotations of unfairness or malice the way "toxic" does. Perception often gets taken as reality. Keeping the perception professional and high-road is usually the best way to go when talking with the media, even when the discussion seems informal. That's what you usually hear from NBA front offices. Not as much from Portland.

http://www.blazersedge.com/2009/7/17/952402/millsap-and-what-comes-next

WTF is going on here?
 
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I think it's pretty obvious.... we tried to get Utah to help us make a deal to acquire Hinrich. The Jazz balked, so we signed Millsap to a deal that would punish the Jazz. It was clearly done out of spite. We never had any intention of signing Millsap, and we only did it to get back at Utah. Millsap went along with it because he was going to get a ton of money up front. No other team would have made that offer to him.

The series of events are pretty clear:

1) Utah tries to move Boozer to free up space to sign Millsap. Blazers try to work three way deal to accommodate this.

2) Report that Bulls either want Bayless included, or won't include Ty Thomas.

3) Utah won't do the deal unless Ty Thomas is included.

4) Deal falls apart.

5) Blazers sign Millsap.

At no point had there been any indication of interest from the Blazers towards Millsap until after the trade fell apart. We did it to spite them.
 
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I think it's pretty obvious.... we tried to get Utah to help us make a deal to acquire Hinrich. The Jazz balked, so we signed Millsap to a deal that would punish the Jazz. It was clearly done out of spite. We never had any intention of signing Millsap, and we only did it to get back at Utah. Millsap went along with it because he was going to get a ton of money up front. No other team would have made that offer to him.

The series of events are pretty clear:

1) Utah tries to move Boozer to free up space to sign Millsap. Blazers try to work three way deal to accommodate this.

2) Report that Bulls either want Bayless included, or won't include Ty Thomas.

3) Utah won't do the deal unless Ty Thomas is included.

4) Deal falls apart.

5) Blazers sign Millsap.

At no point had there been any indication of interest from the Blazers towards Millsap until after the trade fell apart. We did it to spite them.

Basically, it's business, and Utah has done similar things to other teams in the past. I hope this move bankrupts their franchise.
 
I found this odd. Hedo Turkoglu, anyone?

That's a reason I can't really read Blazersedge... some of the columns are written way too arrogantly.

The Blazers CAN sign a player in their 30's to a five year deal... and Odom is only 29.

Even when I agree with a basic premise (the Blazers are a few years away because of the youth of their core) I find their feature articles often unreadable.

Ed O.
 

Piling on KP and the Blazers is the flavor of the month. It is just a storyline to regurgitate.

The idea that the Blazers are "jerks" because they crafted a front-loaded contract is odd. Unless you think that the Jazz "own" Millsap, and his restricted free agent status is window dressing to the formality of Utah paying him what they prefer.

The Blazers made an offer to Millsap they thought MIGHT cause the Jazz to refuse to match.

Now, if you don't believe that and think the Blazers are wasting their time just to mess with the Jazz, then Dave is WRONG.

In that instance the Blazers did very much succeed in being jerks. How did they fail? The Jazz are bitching and whining and moaning and sending e-mails to fans complaining about "toxic" contract provisions.

How is that kind of reaction a failure at intentionally being a "jerk"? I would say any jerk would be proud of that result.
 
Travis may have been a Whitsitt pick, but for whatever reason he's certainly become a KP guy (or maybe he's a Monty Williams guy, or a Brandon's guy?). The Blake thing just makes me cringe, I heard him say on the radio (Wheel's show I think?) the other day that Blake might be one of the best point guards in the league when it comes to playing off of Brandon. That's certainly loaded with a qualifier, but it's also pretty telling where he sees him on this team.

He actually said that?

Damn that is depressing.

I mean, what other point guard could hand the ball to another guy when they get over the half court line, then stand out on the perimeter waiting to shoot a 3? I mean, besides nearly all of them.

I realize the GM can't say negative things about their players in the press without ruining they trade value, but KP needs to get a grip.

The only think Blake is the best in the league at is avoiding contact by never driving to the hoop. He is world class at that.

He can also swing the ball around the perimeter like nobody's business.
 
Here's a nice tidbit from DraftExpress

@DraftExpress: Memphis not happy Utah matched Millsap. They had a trade in place for Travis Outlaw for a draft pick contingent on that.
 
Everyone keeps saying how the CAP space is nice, but it's also nice to actually land your first, second or third choice in FA players, no?

KP is the guy who never lays up. Looks like he's developed a nasty slice and he's in the rough.
 
You seemed opposed to this earlier when I said that if we got Sessions, I would rather package Bayless and Outlaw seeing what we could get. What made you come around?
I guess I don't feel that Sessions is 100% certain the answer. I would roll the dice on him but keep Bayless as a backup just incase. On the other hand Bayless seems to be struggling in SL which is a bit surprising. I suppose if the deal for Sessions hinged on Bayless you would have to consider it.

When I said young PG I meant someone like Devin Harris, someone proven. I suppose that there are not many PG's in the young side of prime who are proven to that degree. If Bayless is the deal breaker for someone like Conley or Sessions I think you might be right to consider it.
 

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