Jeremy Lin - Max Contract

[Rastapopoulos]

Nash is hardly wishful thinking. No way Phoenix matches a 12 mil per offer;

Because they're not FUCKING INSANE? It's a miracle of science and Phoenix's tiptop training crew that Nash is still going despite having a degenerative back condition. And he's what, 37? Do you really think we'd be contenders in 3 years? Maybe if we'd hung on to Gerald and Camby (but then, of course, we wouldn't have cap space).

If Phoenix weren't planning on keeping Nash they would've traded him. It's clear that he's going nowhere. And do you honestly think Paul Allen would okay that kind of contract?

And as for rondo, it depends where we land in the draft. If we manage to get lucky and land the #4 pick, we could use that and take on contract to land him.

That's possible. But if we sign a free agent instead, we get to keep the #4 pick AS WELL.

 

[magnifier661]

Actually it's not about being insane. It's because they don't have any valuable assets to build around accept for gorgot. If they had Batum and Aldridge type players they match easily.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Isn't that the same wishful thinking that has you thinking NY will not match an offer to him?

No, that's "uninformed thinking". I read somewhere that he was a UFA. I have now done my reading and see that he is restricted, so... never mind.

[Looking at the free agent list: wow, that's got to be the shittiest collection ever. No wonder D-Will opted out. Of course, he'd get max money anyway. I think I'll be disappointed with ANY free agent. I hope we use our cap space to absorb other teams' players in trade instead. But not at the cost of draft picks.]

 

[Pinwheel1]

Nash is hardly wishful thinking. No way Phoenix matches a 12 mil per offer; which we could offer. And as for rondo, it depends where we land in the draft. If we manage to get lucky and land the #4 pick, we could use that and take on contract to land him.

So you may think its wishful. I think it's actually not that hard.

I agree with you on this. It is not far fetched if we land two top ten lotto picks. Either team would be interested. I am not sure I want the Blazers to do it.

Nash: No way. Too old compared to the rest of the team
Rondo: Yeah I would do it depending who else we had to give up.

Not sure DAntoni is the answer though. What has he won again? (With better players than we have)
Do players like him? He seems to rub people the wrong way.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Not sure DAntoni is the answer though.

Depends on the question. If the question is "what coach would make watching the Blazers fun again, maybe as fun as the Drexler years" he's one good answer.

What has he won again?

Coach of the year. What had Rick Carlisle won before last year?

(With better players than we have)

Well, hell, a LOT of teams will have better players than us for a while. Actually D'Antoni seems to do well with less talent: Suns without Amare, Knicks without Amare OR Melo.

Do players like him? He seems to rub people the wrong way.

Yes, apparently he is very popular with his players. Except Melo. But there's always SOME player who hates a coach - Tim Hardaway hated Rick Adelman, perhaps the ultimate players' coach. Oh, and probably Darko now.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Coach of the year. What had Rick Carlisle won before last year?

umm, coach of the year? (2001/2002)

 

[Pinwheel1]

Depends on the question. If the question is "what coach would make watching the Blazers fun again, maybe as fun as the Drexler years" he's one good answer.

I do not entirely disagree with you. But the honeymoon period with Blazer fans for being content watching the Blazer's play a fun brand of basketball and not be contenders will very short. Can D'Antoni's style of ball win a championship? (all offense and little D) I am not convinced.

He is probably the best option we have out there though.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

umm, coach of the year? (2001/2002)

Um, exactly. The point is, that we have the same reason to hire D'Antoni as Dallas had to hire Carlisle. Carlisle had never won a title when he was hired.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Um, exactly. The point is, that we have the same reason to hire D'Antoni as Dallas had to hire Carlisle. Carlisle had never won a title when he was hired.

i think sam mitchell is available no? havent been paying too much attention to his COY winning career

 

[Rhal]

So we hire D'Antoini and become a more fun team to watch that will probably have 3 to 4 more wins a year because of how many of our players would be suited to running (Mainly Ewill/LA/Batum and probably the lotto picks). We will still be 1 and done's or at best second rounders. D'Antoini has proven that his system doesn't work in the post season. He also never tries to get his teams to play D.
As for PGoTF no way i'm trading a lotto pick for Nash, or even any asset. If we sign him in the off season cool if not well oh well. We win the lottery and have NJ pick I think we can convince Dwill to sign here. If not and we still have NJ pick i'm sure we could work something out for Rondo. Our best lottery pick and something else which won't be Batum, because there not giving us Rondo at 10m a season to get Batum at 10m a season, and I don't like the idea of trading 2 top 10 lottery picks for a player who has such a giant hole in his game.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Who do YOU see as our starting PG next season? There aren't even any potentially great PGs in the draft.

Except Kendall Marshall, who some are calling the best passer the college game has seen since Jason Kidd.

 

[magnifier661]

So we hire D'Antoini and become a more fun team to watch that will probably have 3 to 4 more wins a year because of how many of our players would be suited to running (Mainly Ewill/LA/Batum and probably the lotto picks). We will still be 1 and done's or at best second rounders. D'Antoini has proven that his system doesn't work in the post season. He also never tries to get his teams to play D.
As for PGoTF no way i'm trading a lotto pick for Nash, or even any asset. If we sign him in the off season cool if not well oh well. We win the lottery and have NJ pick I think we can convince Dwill to sign here. If not and we still have NJ pick i'm sure we could work something out for Rondo. Our best lottery pick and something else which won't be Batum, because there not giving us Rondo at 10m a season to get Batum at 10m a season, and I don't like the idea of trading 2 top 10 lottery picks for a player who has such a giant hole in his game.

Never said we should trade Nash for a pick. In fact we don't trade with Phoenix at all. You offer a contract and he says yes or no.

 

[Natebishop3]

Mags your crush on Steve Nash is bordering on Kingspeedian.

 

[MickZagger]

We aren't getting Nash. Let it go!

 

[anonymous gambler]

I'd be very comfortable offering Nash a two year deal- 12 million/year, he's got at least two good years left in him- then we can look elsewhere- but it'd get us back to the playoffs next year. I think the biggest difference between us this year and last year is really the point guard play- I know we don't have Roy, but he was injured for much of last year and i'd argue that we really didn't have him at his all star level.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

This team is seriously lacking talent.

Adding Steve Nash will not vault this team into contenders.

We need to go the other direction and rebuild.

 

[Rhal]

I'm calling it here. We miss the playoffs get awarded the #1 pick and NJ's #1 and we sign Dwill outright!

 

[magnifier661]

Mags your crush on Steve Nash is bordering on Kingspeedian.

It's not that I have a crush on Nash. He's just the third best pg we have a chance at.

Our order should be #1 d will, which is least likely to happen.

#2 rondo, which could happen if we have a 4-6 draft pick

#3 Nash signed outright if we don't get 1 or 2