Jerome Randle

[Dufferduck]

Sorry to make this a new thread but I thought I would share something I heard from a scout. The PTB are in love with this guy supposedly and don't be surprised if we take him at #22. Guy can put up points fast. His shooting % are above average. Blazers not worried that he is Damon Stoudamire size, he is a baller. MVP of the PAC 10 and 4 year college player


Year G-Gs Min Fg-Fga Pct 3p-3pa Pct Ft-Fta Pct Reb Avg Pf-D Ast To Blk St Tp Avg
2007 33-1 587 70-180 .389 26-86 .302 48-59 .814 50 1.5 49-0 93 57 1 15 214 6.5
2008 31-27 1001 124-290 .428 52-131 .397 67-77 .870 77 2.5 63-2 116 93 0 26 367 11.8
2009 33-33 1164 191-381 .501 82-177 .463 139-161 .863 100 3.0 58-1 165 95 0 24 603 18.3
2010 35-35 1224 210-460 .457 92-228 .404 139-149 .933 73 2.1 52-0 150 123 0 26 651 18.6

 

[blazers2285]

here a highlight video looks like bayless with more shooting. Can we get away with having a small guard? He might get posted up a lot but if he is quick enough to get by his defender. Him and bayless on the floor together could be dangerous but undersized. def better passer than bayless better shooter too.
highlight video [video=vimeo;4895282]

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

5' 9.25" w/o shoes

[video=youtube;MSFyOjU1hI0]

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Wow, his jumper is money!

 

[blazers2285]

Chris paul 2.0 this from draft express. I like this guy. I think we should take him.

While I can speak all day about each and every guy at the camp, I’ll just share with you who I was most impressed with. The invitational’s most valuable player was Jerome Randle, and he deserved it. While he wasn’t my favorite player to watch at the event, mostly because I had seen him for so many years and played against him because he went to Cal, he showed a side of himself that not many got to witness when he was at Berkeley.

Randle has always been a great passer, but in college he was a score first type point guard. His handle is beyond ridiculous and I promise you he can shoot a few feet inside the half court line with ease and knock it down fairly consistently. However, at the camp he became a pass first point guard. He reminded me of when Sebastian Telfair was in the McDonald’s All-American game and was going for the assist record. I had never seen Randle play this way before.

He came in with the same mind set as I did; scouts already knew he could score the ball--that was no secret--he wanted to show his ability to do other things, specifically create for others. Randle has always been capable of this, but at the camp he showed it consistently and made it look easy. Every once in a while he would reveal his sweet stroke and rock-solid handle, but he was practically involved in all of his team’s plays and was dropping some serious dimes.
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[SheedSoNasty]

Looks like Telfair.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Randle in fact ranks amongst the top-10 point guards in our database in 3-point shooting percentage in the past decade, along names such as Darren Collison, Chris Paul, Kirk Hinrich and Mario Chalmers, thanks to the scintillating 46% he shot from beyond the arc as a junior.

“Teams stopped going after him because of his size and then he becomes the Pac-10 Player of the Year,” Joe Pasternack said. “I think his incredible quickness and ability to beat people off the dribble, his shooting, the ability to get space and break down a defense, these are all going to add up for him. Ultimately, people will stop and look at the size, but you have a lot of coaches in the Pac-10 now who are kicking themselves for not recruiting him.”

In spite of a resume brimming with success, Randle is still hearing plenty of questions surrounding his small stature. At 5-10 and weighing just over 170 pounds, he has been plagued with doubters for the majority of his career, dating all the way back to his days as a high school star. Despite being the key piece of a team that won an AAU national championship during the summer prior to his senior year of high school, Randle wasn’t drawing interest from too many larger programs, ultimately narrowing his choices down to Cal and Tulsa before signing with the Golden Bears.

Jerome Randle, the guy everyone will probably whiff on (saying "he's too small") & then be sorry about later

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[blazers2285]

Thats was always Telfairs problem that he couldn't shoot wasn't it?

 

[illmatic99]

Thats was always Telfairs problem that he couldn't shoot wasn't it?

And he couldn't finish at the rim when he got there.

 

[Nikolokolus]

He's a midget, which could pose problems defensively, but if he were 3 inches taller he'd probably be a top ten pick in this year's draft. I'm not sure I want to see the Blazers spend a first round pick on him, but if they want to trade up or buy an early second round pick to snag him I could live with the idea of him on the roster.

He reminds me of Aaron Brooks.

 

[BBert]

Looks a little like Mugsy Bogues, only better. Too bad Bayless can't shoot like that. Or pass like that. Or see the floor like that. Like Bayless, he's going to get swatted if he thinks he can take that stuff to the basket against NBA big men.

Maybe Nate could run the Randle/Mills/Bayless lineup with Dante and Pendergraph down low. In blowouts, of course.

 

[Blazinaway]

Do we really think he's better than Patty Mills who is lightening quick and can shoot as well? and even a little taller? just askin as I have not seen Randle play and would like to see more of Mills.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Do we really think he's better than Patty Mills who is lightening quick and can shoot as well? and even a little taller? just askin as I have not seen Randle play and would like to see more of Mills.

Having watched Randle play a fair bit more in Pac-10 play I think I can safely say that he sees the floor better than Mills, and he's definitely a better long range shooter. As for either guys' longterm prospects in the NBA? Who knows.

 

[jwhoops11]

He had one of the best long range shooting performances I've ever seen, in the PAC 10 tournamnet this year against the Ducks.

There was a stretch in the first half when he hit 3 long range jumpers that were close to 10 feet behind the college 3pt line, he could pretty much do anything he wanted.

A very very impressive offensive player...

 

[Blaze01]

looks good on video, but don't they all?

small size is concerning to me...but if POR scouts think he has more than enough to offset that???

 

[Mediocre Man]

I am starting to wonder if it's the PG teacher, rather than the PG.

Bayless, Rodriguez, Jack, Green, Mills....None of them have been successful. Maybe we could stop drafting PG's?

And you guys DO realize that Bayless had better shooting % from the field and behind the 3 pt line than this kid in college, right?

 

[Blaze01]

Hey, I am with you MM..

If POR is going after a guard...I would much rather them go after a bigger hybrid like Willie Warren, Eric Bledsoe or Avery Bradley...

Or even a guy like James Anderson or Xavier Henry....

 

[Nikolokolus]

I am starting to wonder if it's the PG teacher, rather than the PG.

Bayless, Rodriguez, Jack, Green, Mills....None of them have been successful. Maybe we could stop drafting PG's?

And you guys DO realize that Bayless had better shooting % from the field and behind the 3 pt line than this kid in college, right?

In one season, and their situations were slightly different. Bayless was a pretty good three point shooter hitting set shots, not really jumpers or off the dribble. That said, I have fairly serious doubts that Randle is gonna stick in the NBA and you're right that Portland hasn't been particularly friendly to the development of young point guards -- I see no reason to be hopeful that we'd see a reversal of the field with this kid.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I am starting to wonder if it's the PG teacher, rather than the PG.

Is this post from 3 years ago? "Starting"? You've been pretty solidly in the "McMilan is cause of the problem, whatever the problem is" camp since 2008.

 

[hasoos]

And he couldn't finish at the rim when he got there.

and he couldn't play well, in general.

 

[hasoos]

I am starting to wonder if it's the PG teacher, rather than the PG.

Bayless, Rodriguez, Jack, Green, Mills....None of them have been successful. Maybe we could stop drafting PG's?

And you guys DO realize that Bayless had better shooting % from the field and behind the 3 pt line than this kid in college, right?

Bayless is one consistent outside jumper away from being very hard to handle. The only reason teams can handle him now is because they give him the jumper. If he gets that nailed down, then they can't back off him, they can't cheat on screens, and they can't switch a big on to him. That is when his game will open up.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Is this post from 3 years ago? "Starting"? You've been pretty solidly in the "McMilan is cause of the problem, whatever the problem is" camp since 2008.

So I guess I should change my signiture to read "Right, since 2008"

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

My friend went to Cal and she said a lot of people there call him a young Terrell Brandon.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

So I guess I should change my signiture to read "Right, since 2008"

If you like. I have signatures off.

 

[Luther]

I haven't seen him play so I can't sit here and say draft him or not but he certainly looks to have the quickness and court vision to play in the NBA. I didn't think Collison would be very productive and he turned out to be great for a rookie. I would like to see us pick up a PG in the draft or through a trade/FA because Andre, as great as he has been for us, is old. Bayless is more of a two that CAN play stints at PG but I don't like him for our PG of the future right now.

 

[BGrantFan]

I haven't seen him play so I can't sit here and say draft him or not but he certainly looks to have the quickness and court vision to play in the NBA. I didn't think Collison would be very productive and he turned out to be great for a rookie. I would like to see us pick up a PG in the draft or through a trade/FA because Andre, as great as he has been for us, is old. Bayless is more of a two that CAN play stints at PG but I don't like him for our PG of the future right now.

Miller had a subpar playoff, outside of one game. Steve Blake had a higher playoff PER last year than 'Dre had this year.

 

[Blaze01]

Really?

You really are going to go with the Steve Blake is better in the playoffs than Andre Miller take?

Feel free to put a self imposed ban on yourself...

 

[BGrantFan]

Really?

You really are going to go with the Steve Blake is better in the playoffs than Andre Miller take?

Feel free to put a self imposed ban on yourself...

I only posted a stat. However, Blake shot better, rebounded better, and averaged more assists than Miller did this year, and he had more assists playing a much slower paced team in Houston.

If Blake was bad in the playoffs last year, then the stats say that Miller was just as bad, or even worse outside of Game 1, than Blake was last year. Plus, Blake put up those stats with literally half the usage % of Miller (12.6 for Blake/25.2 for Miller). Feel free to offer a counter argument outside of telling me to ban myself.

 

[BrianFromWA]

B/c I'm not as familiar with the Usage Rate stat, does a higher or lower usage affect PER and efficiency secondarily? I mean, if someone's putting up 10 points on a 10% USG, is that better than 15 in a 20% USG?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

B/c I'm not as familiar with the Usage Rate stat, does a higher or lower usage affect PER and efficiency secondarily? I mean, if someone's putting up 10 points on a 10% USG, is that better than 15 in a 20% USG?

According to this article: http://basketball-statistics.com/bl...ndersoutside-shooters-and-interior-defenders/ PER takes Usage% into account when generating PER. Given how some players who come in off the bench for a few minute a season have incredible PERs, I'm assuming you're correct that 10 points with a 10% Usage rate is better than 15 with 20%.