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Hate to say this but he is in decline and pretty expensive at that. Thanks Cashman.
 
Art51USAF said:
Hate to say this but he is in decline and pretty expensive at that. Thanks Cashman.
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Jeter should have just shut it down after his last rehab & started fresh next season.
 
Cashman and the FO is to blame for all of this. Their approach to the obvious issues has been, on the surface, a total failure on all fronts. Every team has issues, not every team has a Arod distraction, unmovable contracts, a farm system 2 years away, and a team that uses their AARP cards for discounts.
 
Not the way I wanted but I think I just got my wish. Its been reported that Jeter left the game due to tweaking that left ankle.
 
Majorball said:
Cashman and the FO is to blame for all of this. Their approach to the obvious issues has been, on the surface, a total failure on all fronts. Every team has issues, not every team has a Arod distraction, unmovable contracts, a farm system 2 years away, and a team that uses their AARP cards for discounts.
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May I ask what team is dominating with a great farm system? You make it seem this organization is the Padres or Pirates in that they haven't win anything for decades. Yeah the team is old.. yeah the teams payroll is being overpaid due go past performance...but for gid sakes we have won a world series or two. ...

the dimished mind of a soon to be 40 year old
 
Majorball said:
Cashman and the FO is to blame for all of this. Their approach to the obvious issues has been, on the surface, a total failure on all fronts. Every team has issues, not every team has a Arod distraction, unmovable contracts, a farm system 2 years away, and a team that uses their AARP cards for discounts.
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I can't blame Cashman and the FO for Jeter injuring and then reinjuring his ankle...
 
I think the Red Sux have done a great job with their farm system. They bring them up play them keep them or trade for new younger talent. Elsbury, Nava, Middlebruck, Ross and so on the ones traded Lawrie, Ingeliese and so on but overall they have done excellent compared to the Yanks.
 
The Red Sox, The Rays, The As, The Braves, The Cards, The Reds. In otherv words winning teams right now have had good farms. They aren't relying on spending a fortune in free agency.
 
Art51USAF said:
I think the Red Sux have done a great job with their farm system. They bring them up play them keep them or trade for new younger talent. Elsbury, Nava, Middlebruck, Ross and so on the ones traded Lawrie, Ingeliese and so on but overall they have done excellent compared to the Yanks.
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They have done a great job. As did the other teams that Mess mentioned. It will be a long time before the Yankees grow players like that.
 
Messiah717 said:
The Red Sox, The Rays, The As, The Braves, The Cards, The Reds. In otherv words winning teams right now have had good farms. They aren't relying on spending a fortune in free agency.
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And combined those teams have 4 series wins in over 78 years combined. And the two sox wins were with a lot of brought players..Schilling. ..pedro...manny...damon..papi...all bought.

the dimished mind of a soon to be 40 year old
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
And combined those teams have 4 series wins in over 78 years combined. And the two sox wins were with a lot of brought players..Schilling. ..pedro...manny...damon..papi...all bought.

the dimished mind of a soon to be 40 year old
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Al I don't think Mess was looking to reach back to 1935. Realistically I believe he was looking at perhaps the last 5-10 years. And I happen to agree with him. The Yankee scouts & farm system has basically been shit over the last few years.
 
Rick2583 said:
Al I don't think Mess was looking to reach back to 1935. Realistically I believe he was looking at perhaps the last 5-10 years. And I happen to agree with him. The Yankee scouts & farm system has basically been shit over the last few years.
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No I took the forementioned teams added all there seasons together since 2000. I used 2000 as a bench mark as prior to 2000 yanks won with core players from the minors.

the dimished mind of a soon to be 40 year old
 
BigDaddyAl1973 said:
And combined those teams have 4 series wins in over 78 years combined. And the two sox wins were with a lot of brought players..Schilling. ..pedro...manny...damon..papi...all bought.

the dimished mind of a soon to be 40 year old
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The Cardinals themselves have 13 WS appearances and 8 WS wins in the 78 years so I'm not sure where you're getting these numbers from. Plus, all that really matter is this.

Boston: First place AL East
As: First place AL West
Atlanta: First place NL East
St Louis: First place NL Central
 
Messiah717 said:
The Cardinals themselves have 13 WS appearances and 8 WS wins in the 78 years so I'm not sure where you're getting these numbers from. Plus, all that really matter is this.

Boston: First place AL East
As: First place AL West
Atlanta: First place NL East
St Louis: First place NL Central
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Boston truly amazes be. I mean they lost what 95 games last year? Only to be rebuilt. The Cardinals trade away there #1 star (now looking like a great move) and have added just the right pieces to contend. And Atlanta & the the A's just seem to be there at the top year after year.

I'm afraid after a nice 20 year run, when you now consider who's running things that the Yankees will not be competitive for quite a few years. Sadly.
 
Rick2583 said:
Boston truly amazes be. I mean they lost what 95 games last year? Only to be rebuilt. The Cardinals trade away there #1 star (now looking like a great move) and have added just the right pieces to contend. And Atlanta & the the A's just seem to be there at the top year after year.

I'm afraid after a nice 20 year run, when you now consider who's running things that the Yankees will not be competitive for quite a few years. Sadly.
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It's why so many rightly bash Cashman. Even with all the injuries this team has incurred and the supposed budget restrictions, the simple fact is that Cashman STILL had over $30M to spend this off-season (pretty much more than 80%+ other teams had), and instead of using it on 5-6 players - he lazily gave Youkilis $12M, took on Wells for $12M, gave Ichiro $6M, and in the process ignored C, 3B, a RH bat (until he was overruled on Soriano, which looks like too late).

Cashman made no attempts to improve this team last off-season, spent his off-season chasing whores, lying to his wife, repelling buildings, breaking his ankle doing it - - he basically gave himself 3 month vacation while other GMs like the one in Boston did their jobs to improve their teams.
 
vette322 said:
It's why so many rightly bash Cashman. Even with all the injuries this team has incurred and the supposed budget restrictions, the simple fact is that Cashman STILL had over $30M to spend this off-season (pretty much more than 80%+ other teams had), and instead of using it on 5-6 players - he lazily gave Youkilis $12M, took on Wells for $12M, gave Ichiro $6M, and in the process ignored C, 3B, a RH bat (until he was overruled on Soriano, which looks like too late).

Cashman made no attempts to improve this team last off-season, spent his off-season chasing whores, lying to his wife, repelling buildings, breaking his ankle doing it - - he basically gave himself 3 month vacation while other GMs like the one in Boston did their jobs to improve their teams.
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vette my friend, you've pretty much covered it all. The sad thing is though is that its only the fans that realize it.
 
One thing that helped Boston is that they were able to get rid of all their high priced malcontents by sending them to LA. Something has to be said for Donnie Baseball given the way that the Dodgers are playing. Getting rid of Valentine was another good move although he should have never been there as field manager in the first place. Cashman let Dickerson go, who'd have played a lot better outfield than Francisco. Can't remember the 3rd baseman they let go now plays for the Angels. Youk was a bad signing given his history of injuries. We could go on and on with stories but it mostly originates that the GM and GO did a poor job. A while back I posted a scene I'd like to see, angry Yankee Fans grabbing Cashman out of his office and lynching him at the stadium entrance, that will prevail until I see him fired.
 
At this point I settle for Gene Michael getting his job back. Then see him replace Girardi with Laussa. Try & unload CCs contract even if it means eating 1/2 of it. Picking up McCann & Morales. And replace Granderson with Ellsbury. That's just for starters.
 
Rick2583 said:
At this point I settle for Gene Michael getting his job back. Then see him replace Girardi with Laussa. Try & unload CCs contract even if it means eating 1/2 of it. Picking up McCann & Morales. And replace Granderson with Ellsbury. That's just for starters.
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I'd settle with just the first part... but all of those are great ideas
 
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