Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

[BonesJones]

It’s such an obvious move. Even if Butler leaves after a year. At least we clear a bunch of salary. But you know Neil will never do it. Probably thinks CJ is better than Butler too.

There seems to be some issues with Butler as a person that I've heard whispers about over the past 2 years. If Neil wouldn't do it, I feel like that might be the reason why. And we wouldn't really understand so we'd try to explain it to ourselves with what only we can see..

 

[Phatguysrule]

Not sure if this was covered in this thread but on local radio just now in LA they said a couple of things about it.
1) Butler can't stand Wiggins and Towns (and the feeling is mutual)
2) Towns won't sign his extension until they move Butler

Looking at Timberwolves roster I would want ET plus 2 cheap young players who have a ton of potential.

ET plus Simons or Trent (maybe both)
Although I would not give up both.

I'd pull the trigger on that right now. Please and thank you.

 

[Scalma]

Dame
CJ
Butler
Aminu
Nurkic

CJ
Curry
Trent
Collins
Dieng

Yeah yeah.

 

[illmatic99]

we make the list?

 

[Scalma]

Welp it’s official. He wants out. I’d bet anything Portland isn’t on his list though. Moving on I guess.

 

[julius]

we make the list?

The three teams, I'm willing to bet the house I don't own, are Lakers, Rockets and Warriors. Maybe the Thunder

 

[Scalma]

we make the list?

I bet it’s something like New York, Miami, and the Lakers.

But if he’s as serious about winning as he says he is, Portland should be in his REALISTIC top 3.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Welp it’s official. He wants out. I’d bet anything Portland isn’t on his list though. Moving on I guess.

If we're not (and we probably aren't), Neil needs to be on the phone to Butler and his agent to convince him to expand that list.

Dame needs to be recruiting Butler behind the scenes, too. Even though POR is a young team, we have a proven leader, one of the best in the game, whose unquestioned work ethic has rubbed of on our young guys.

I really think Butler would love it here - if he'd just give it a chance. The hard part will be convincing him to give it a chance, that POR would not be a repeat of the problems he's faced in CHI and MIN the last two years.

BNM

 

[Scalma]

But fuck Jimmy’s list. Minnesota should trade him to whoever offers the best package.

 

[Scalma]

The worst part about this is we’re a couple days away from hearing about how Portland was in on Butler, but couldn’t get it done because Thibs didn’t want to trade in division, or whatever bullshit Olshey throws at Woj.

 

[Boob-No-More]

But fuck Jimmy’s list. Minnesota should trade him to whoever offers the best package.

The problem is, they'll get lesser offers from teams that view him as a 1-year rental.

Maybe Neil's inner used car salesman has the chutzpah to think he can convince Butler to resign even if we aren't on his list.

Fuck it, when a talent like Butler is available, you need to go for it and worry about resigning him later.

BNM

 

[andalusian]

Fuck it, when a talent like Butler is available, you need to go for it and worry about resigning him later.

To a point. If he is not willing to sign here - would you build a trade scenario around CJ, ZC and parts? I am not sure this is a worthwhile risk.

 

[Scalma]

To a point. If he is not willing to sign here - would you build a trade scenario around CJ, ZC and parts? I am not sure this is a worthwhile risk.

Nope. Maybe Simons and CJ. I’m not sacrificing Zach for a possible rental. I’d be more open to Simons because he’s years away and I like the surplus we have with Trent.

 

[Blazers Roy]

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

So, is it a list of one team or a list of three?

 

[Boob-No-More]

To a point. If he is not willing to sign here - would you build a trade scenario around CJ, ZC and parts? I am not sure this is a worthwhile risk.

I'd still be willing to offer C.J., even without a verbal commitment that Butler will resign. Worst case, Butler walks and we're off the hook for the last 3 years and $83 million of C.J.'s contract. Not ideal, but we'd still have (hopefully as least one of) Simons or Trent Jr. to groom as our SG of the future if Butler bolts.

I truly believe the addition of Butler clearly pushes us ahead of OKC, SAS, UTA, NOP, DEN, and LAL and gets us nipping on the heals of HOU and GSW.

BNM

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

If you are on his list, what is your incentive to give up a lot for him if you think you can sign him as a free agent in a year?

 

[Scalma]

The question honestly shouldn’t be whether Butler wants to come here or not. That’s just a leverage play on his part. As we saw with George, a player can be sold on something. If the culture in Portland is as good as Olshey claims, trust it.

The real question should be whether or not Portland can contend with other offers. Who else has the means, and desire, to put together a competitive package? I think that list is probably smaller than some might think. But it only takes one.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

The question honestly shouldn’t be whether Butler wants to come here or not. That’s just a leverage play on his part. As we saw with a George, a player can be sold on something. If the culture in Portland is as good as Olshey claims, trust it.

The real question should be whether or not Portland can contend with other offers. Who else has the means, and desire, to put together a competitive package? I think that list is probably smaller than some might think. But it only takes one.

My bet is Boston

 

[andalusian]

If you are on his list, what is your incentive to give up a lot for him if you think you can sign him as a free agent in a year?

You get him a year earlier and do not need to have an open-market skirmish against the other 2?

 

[illmatic99]

If you are on his list, what is your incentive to give up a lot for him if you think you can sign him as a free agent in a year?

If you are on his list, it can be assumed that he will be open to an extension without testing free agency. Hence the list.

I truly believe the addition of Butler clearly pushes us ahead of OKC, SAS, UTA, NOP, DEN, and LAL and gets us nipping on the heals of HOU and GSW.

BNM

Is that assuming you traded CJ to get Butler?

I'm not so sure.

 

[tester551]

If you are on his list, what is your incentive to give up a lot for him if you think you can sign him as a free agent in a year?

The teams might not have cap sapce to sign him outright.

 

[Scalma]

My bet is Boston

Boston already has a surplus on the wing with Brown, Tatum, and Hayward. But more importantly, they’ll have a tough time matching salaries. Almost impossible.

 

[Scalma]

BROOKLYN. KNICKS.

Yeah, what a winner.

 

[craigehlo]

Nets, Clipps or Knicks according to Woj. Thankfully not the Lakers.

 

[illmatic99]

 

[Scalma]

Nets, Clipps or Knicks according to Woj. Thankfully not the Lakers.

Lol what a fraud.

 

[julius]

Well, obviously he's not interested in winning.

 

[craigehlo]

They will ship him East. Adding him to the Clipps would likely knock them out of the playoff picture in the West.

 

[illmatic99]

Let's not forget Kyrie's trade request last year. The preferred teams were: SAS, NYK, MIA, MIN.