Jimmy Butler wants out? (He does.)

[BonesJones]

I just find it strange that someone who commented about not being emotionally invested would make a comment about an emotion for a different fan base.

No, we care about him so much.. I mean, he said it so it must be true, right?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I said his defense is underrated. He's also not a good NBA player. He's an average rotation piece. I guess he might be close, but your seriously the type of person to search for and bring up a post from a year ago? Do you not have better things to do with your time?

Nothing I've said is contradictory. However, I have tried to view Aminu in a more positive life because people have cried about me being to hard on him. So now that I do that, I get people like you bringing up year-old posts that don't even contradict?

Jeeeeez.

In one of the posts scalma quoted, you said Aminu's defense was solid but overrated...so yeah, that would qualify as contradictory of your post yesterday saying his defense is underrated.

Still, there's nothing wrong with viewpoints evolving. Probably even arguable that the public (Blazer fan) perception of Aminu's defense has degraded over the past year to the point where he could go from being overrated to being underrated without the quality of his defense changing.

All this to say--probably nothing worth arguing over.

 

[BonesJones]

In one of the posts scalma quoted, you said Aminu's defense was solid but overrated...so yeah, that would qualify as contradictory of your post yesterday saying his defense is underrated

Even if I did, back then people complained about me being too hard on him. So now that I (apparently) changed my view on his defense, people still complain.

Basically, people complain too much. Complaining about others viewpoints then giving them shit if they change over time is stupid. And bringing up year old posts are petty.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Even if I did, back then people complained about me being too hard on him. So now that I (apparently) changed my view on his defense, people still complain.

Basically, people complain too much. Complaining about others viewpoints then giving them shit if they change over time is stupid. And bringing up year old posts are petty.

I don't know if it's "complaining" so much as noting the disparity. Petty or not, it was kinda funny.

When you have such strong opinions, that stuff's gonna happen.

 

[BonesJones]

I don't know if it's "complaining" so much as noting the disparity. Petty or not, it was kinda funny.

When you have such strong opinions, that stuff's gonna happen.

Whatever you wanna call it, he was.trying to bait me.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Whatever you wanna call it, he was.trying to bait me.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

56 pages on a guy that was never gonna end up here? damn I forgot how badly Portland fans want something to happen to this team. Trust me, I do too. We gave Melo so much attention last season and he isn't even that good. Might be a bumpy ride this season but I am for it.

How many pages is the Melo thread, lol.

 

[Scalma]

Whatever you wanna call it, he was.trying to bait me.

No I wasn’t. I just found the contradiction funny and knew you wouldn’t keep it as simple as “I changed my mind.” It isn’t that deep.

 

[BonesJones]

No I wasn’t. I just found the contradiction funny and knew you wouldn’t keep it as simple as “I changed my mind.” It isn’t that deep.

You act like you don't jab.

 

[BonesJones]

Ok Mod.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Adrian Wojnarowski: ESPN Reporting w/ Zach Lowe: Minnesota’s asking price for Jimmy Butler remains too steep for teams. Minny seeks quality vets/top prospects/future assets/cap relief. Too high a price for interested teams, including Miami. Sources are skeptical of Thibodeau’s desire to make deal.
– via Twitter wojespn
Do they want all four of those things? Anyway, just need to wait them out; owner wants him gone now, doesn't make any difference what Thibs wants.

 

[RR7]

Adrian Wojnarowski: ESPN Reporting w/ Zach Lowe: Minnesota’s asking price for Jimmy Butler remains too steep for teams. Minny seeks quality vets/top prospects/future assets/cap relief. Too high a price for interested teams, including Miami. Sources are skeptical of Thibodeau’s desire to make deal.
– via Twitter wojespn
Do they want all four of those things? Anyway, just need to wait them out; owner wants him gone now, doesn't make any difference what Thibs wants.

I think thibs wants to be fired, personally. Get out of that situation, and still collect his checks

 

[Cippy91]

How many pages is the Melo thread, lol.

449 and it's glorious

 

[Cippy91]

Interesting that Minny is asking for so much considering Butler said he would sit out if not traded soon

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Interesting that Minny is asking for so much considering Butler said he would sit out if not traded soon

they can always ask....

 

[Boob-No-More]

Adrian Wojnarowski: ESPN Reporting w/ Zach Lowe: Minnesota’s asking price for Jimmy Butler remains too steep for teams. Minny seeks quality vets/top prospects/future assets/cap relief. Too high a price for interested teams, including Miami. Sources are skeptical of Thibodeau’s desire to make deal.
– via Twitter wojespn
Do they want all four of those things? Anyway, just need to wait them out; owner wants him gone now, doesn't make any difference what Thibs wants.

Given the situation, that's a ridiculous amount for MIN to be asking. As good as Butler is today, the team that lands him faces two possibilities: Sign him to a 5-year max contract extension totaling $188 million, or lose him for nothing after a 1-year rental. Sign him to that extension and you'll be paying him $42 million when he's 35.

Given the flight risk vs. contract demands/expectations, MIN will be damn lucky to get two of the four things they are asking for. Obviously, Thibs doesn't want to lose Butler, so he has intentionally set an unrealistic asking price. At some point soon, Glen Taylor will step in and take the best deal on the table and it won't be close to Thibs' asking price.

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Given the situation, that's a ridiculous amount for MIN to be asking. As good as Butler is today, the team that lands him faces two possibilities: Sign him to a 5-year max contract extension totaling $188 million, or lose him for nothing after a 1-year rental. Sign him to that extension and you'll be paying him $42 million when he's 35.

Given the flight risk vs. contract demands/expectations, MIN will be damn lucky to get two of the four things they are asking for. Obviously, Thibs doesn't want to lose Butler, so he has intentionally set an unrealistic asking price. At some point soon, Glen Taylor will step in and take the best deal on the table and it won't be close to Thibs' asking price.

BNM

CJ, Aminu, Trent, and a pick for Butler/Dieng arguably gives them all 4.

 

[THE HCP]

How many pages is the Melo thread, lol.

That had pics though FAMS!

 

[Boob-No-More]

CJ, Aminu, Trent, and a pick for Butler/Dieng arguably gives them all 4.

If you're the Blazers, would you do that trade? I like Butler, but IMHO, that's too much to give up for him.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

449 and it's glorious

This thread is on page 12 here.

 

[Boob-No-More]

That had pics though FAMS!

Where are your blurry pics of Jimmy Butler (allegedly) at PDX (allegedly)? You really need to step up your game FAMS!

BNM

 

[Pinwheel1]

Given the situation, that's a ridiculous amount for MIN to be asking. As good as Butler is today, the team that lands him faces two possibilities: Sign him to a 5-year max contract extension totaling $188 million, or lose him for nothing after a 1-year rental. Sign him to that extension and you'll be paying him $42 million when he's 35.

Given the flight risk vs. contract demands/expectations, MIN will be damn lucky to get two of the four things they are asking for. Obviously, Thibs doesn't want to lose Butler, so he has intentionally set an unrealistic asking price. At some point soon, Glen Taylor will step in and take the best deal on the table and it won't be close to Thibs' asking price.

BNM

Top prospect and future assets are somewhat doable. But to receive a "quality" vet AND cap relief seems tougher. So it needs to be a team with an expiring contracts or currently under the cap who can absorb Butler's contract? I know there are several scenarios that would make this work, but none of them seem easy if the quality vet they are receiving is any good.

 

[THE HCP]

Where are your blurry pics of Jimmy Butler (allegedly) at PDX (allegedly)? You really need to step up your game FAMS!

BNM

I was told that the “blurry picture” incident of 2017 is a sore subject with SOME posters on here and I need to quit bringing it up. Still rubs SOME the wrong way. So I was politely asked to let it go from upper management.
I think SOME thought The HCP was bringing too much actual PANIC.

I call bullshit actually. I’m telling you in my damn name what I’m going to bring.

I understand though. I don’t want people to quit because of me. That said, the ironic thing about that is, the person on here who claimed people were going to quit because of me, ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE QUIT BECAUSE OF HIM. #HA

 

[THE HCP]

Speaking of pictures, out here this morning testing my camera out on my new iPhone.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

CJ, Aminu, Trent, and a pick for Butler/Dieng arguably gives them all 4.

Same deal with Turner substituted for CJ also gives them all four.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Same deal with Turner substituted for CJ also gives them all four.

Assuming Turner is considered a "quality veteran"

 

[Boob-No-More]

Same deal with Turner substituted for CJ also gives them all four.

That deal I'd do! Getting Butler while keeping C.J. would be huge. Right now, I'm excited about Trent Jr.'s potential to become a rotation player at the 2/3 spots, but with Butler's ability to play both the 2 and 3, on both ends, at a very high level, Trent Jr. really wouldn't be getting many minutes in the foreseeable future. So yeah, I'd jump all over that deal.

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That deal I'd do! Getting Butler while keeping C.J. would be huge. Right now, I'm excited about Trent Jr.'s potential to become a rotation player at the 2/3 spots, but with Butler's ability to play both the 2 and 3, on both ends, at a very high level, Trent Jr. really wouldn't be getting many minutes in the foreseeable future. So yeah, I'd jump all over that deal.

BNM

Of course, replacing CJ's salary with Turner's would require increasing other outgoing salary. Either swapping Aminu for Harkless (probably less attractive to the Wolves), or swapping Trent for Collins (more attractive to MIN). Turner/Aminu/Collins/pick for Butler/Dieng. And yes, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Same deal with Turner substituted for CJ also gives them all four.

See that it is where it gets somewhat complicated...... without CJ in the mix and an expiring contract (Aminu) they can't get rid of Dieng's 3 year deal. But then Minnesota would end up with Wiggins, Towns, and CJ all making 27 mil next year.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Of course, replacing CJ's salary with Turner's would require increasing other outgoing salary. Either swapping Aminu for Harkless (probably less attractive to the Wolves), or swapping Trent for Collins (more attractive to MIN). Turner/Aminu/Collins/pick for Butler/Dieng. And yes, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat.

Interesting package. Basically we risk Collins and nothing else if Butler does not return. That is a good deal for Minnesota too.