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Denny Crane said:
Billy Donovan in OKC was Noah's college coach.

New Orleans has Asik at C. I think Thibs might end up there.
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Asik is an unrestricted FA though. I think with Noah's passing from the high post AD would get at least 6 more easy points per game and become MVP.

OKC would be interesting, would the Bulls accept their lottery pick and Adams+Morrow?
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Asik is an unrestricted FA though. I think with Noah's passing from the high post AD would get at least 6 more easy points per game and become MVP.

OKC would be interesting, would the Bulls accept their lottery pick and Adams+Morrow?
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Enes Kanter and Morrow. Something like that. Kanter would have to want to stay with the Bulls long term.

Anyhow, the scenario that some other team ends up with Jimmy Butler is if he's offered a 1 or two year deal with player option and he leaves after a year. Whatever he's offered, I suspect the Bulls will match. They're almost certain to offer him the largest contract possible right away.
 
Denny Crane said:
Enes Kanter and Morrow. Something like that. Kanter would have to want to stay with the Bulls long term.

Anyhow, the scenario that some other team ends up with Jimmy Butler is if he's offered a 1 or two year deal with player option and he leaves after a year. Whatever he's offered, I suspect the Bulls will match. They're almost certain to offer him the largest contract possible right away.
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Kanter is gonna get around 8-10mil as an RFA probably, plus he plays no D.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Kanter is gonna get around 8-10mil as an RFA probably, plus he plays no D.
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He might be the best Noah would fetch. Noah looks gimpy. Until he shows otherwise, he's a one year rental and a big expiring to other teams.

The Bulls might re-sign him to a smaller deal after this one expires. I don't know what the interest will be in him as a FA after another season.
 
Denny Crane said:
Asik won't make $14M like Noah does.
Thibs gets to choose and it looks like he'd want to coach Anthony Davis.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/spor...eans-orlando-tom-thibodeau-20150514-post.html
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I'm asking because I have no clue, but does he get to choose? He still has 2 years left on his deal, so theoretically, they can send him to whoever gave them the best offer, right? Obviously, he can say he doesn't want to coach there, but with 2 years left on his deal? Unsure how that all works, as coach deals seem so much different than player ones, until they start getting traded also.
 
RR7 said:
I'm asking because I have no clue, but does he get to choose? He still has 2 years left on his deal, so theoretically, they can send him to whoever gave them the best offer, right? Obviously, he can say he doesn't want to coach there, but with 2 years left on his deal? Unsure how that all works, as coach deals seem so much different than player ones, until they start getting traded also.
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From what I've seen, Thibs doesn't have to participate in a trade.

Kidd wanted to pursue a coaching job with the Bucks and a trade was facilitated.

Similar with Doc Rivers - he wanted to go to the Clippers.

It seems Thibs can honor his part of the contract and the Bulls would have to fire him if they want to rid themselves of his $4M contract and hire someone else.

They won't eat his contract - $8M over two seasons...

In the case of Doc and Kidd, I think the teams would have kept them as coach if a trade wasn't made.
 
LA for Butler? WTF?
You just proposed a lottery team.
 
MarAzul said:
LA for Butler? WTF?
You just proposed a lottery team.
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Being fair, it's Butler and Gibson. That's a whole lot of Defense coming back.

Butler is a stud. Elite perimeter defender, puts up 20/6/3 on .462/.378/.834, gets to the foul line a ton (7 shots a game) and has done this on a terrible offensive team.

Taj Gibson would be a good first big off the bench (if LA was traded in this hypothetical deal, Leonard gets the starting nod). He puts up 10/6 with a block a game and very efficient shooting, I'm not a fan of his fake tough guy antics but he is a good bench big.
 
If it's true that Butler and Rose aren't getting along, we should definitely try to pry him away from the Bulls, especially if LA doesn't want to be in Portland either. What if we traded LA, Batum, and Kaman to Chicago for Butler and Mirotic.

Chicago might say yes because Gasol/LA/Gibson/Kaman/Noah is a very strong front court rotation. If they want to win now, this is the way to go, and Gasol can prolong his career playing only 25ish minutes a night. Butler leaving also will help develop Snell.

Portland should resign Matthews and have Butler start at sf and have Mirotic start at pf. With what would've been Batum and Lopez's salaries, sign Chandler to a 3 yr/36 million contract and resign Dorell Wright to a 3 yr/9 million contract (he wants to come back and was playing big for us for about a month before he went down). Hope Afflalo opts in. With the 23rd pick, draft a big man, let's just say we went all in on Upshaw. A lineup of

Pg Lillard/McCollum/Blake
Sg Matthews/Afflalo/McCollum
Sf Butler/Wright/Afflalo
Pf Mirotic/Leonard/FA
C Chandler/Upshaw/FA

Would be semi-competitive and compete for the 8th seed. With Mirotic developing, we'll be better down the line. If we made the lottery, that'd be even better cause we can keep our pick next year and keep building. Who says no in this trade scenario?
 
FWIW, I don't think the bulls would trade Butler for LMA. They certainly wouldn't trade Mirotic; he's on a great contract and he may turn into an all-star in the next season or two.
 
1eyejack said:
Buttler does not make us a Lottery team. Having LA leave for nothing will
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uh, what difference does it make how you became a lottery team?
Chicago might become a winner and Portland has no chance with a twin chucker back court.
 
We'll trade you Nolan Smith for Mirotic - we've changed our minds.
 
We'll trade you Tyrus Thomas for LMA. We changed our minds.
 
Hers something different..
Any chance at something like Batum, Afflalo, Leonard, Kaman and 23rd pick for Butler and Gibson?

Bulls: Rose-Afflalo-Batum-Mirotic-Noah
Bench:Brooks-Kirk-MikeD-Meyers-Kaman

-Decent lineup, decent bench.. They get a young piece in Leonard and a pick..
More importantly they would have $63M in cap room in 2016 to pursue Durant and another max FA with cap room to spare

Blazers: Lillard-Wes-Butler-Aldridge-Rolo
Bench: McCollum-Covington-Taj-Kofous

That's stacked
 
The Bulls are the only team that made the playoffs that had zero players on the roster acquired in a trade, other than a draft day trade for draft picks.

That might be an indication of how likely they are to trade one of the two best players they've drafted since the dynasty years, and who's only 25 years old.
 
That doesn't mean much. That's like saying the Spurs drafted a lot of their guys and only sign FAs as role players, so LMA would never be signed there
 
No it's not. The Spurs have signed FAs and made trades.

The Bulls don't make trades, except for draft picks on draft day. Like LMA to Portland for Tyrus Thomas.

Kyle Korver for a TPE they let expire. They traded Hinrich to Washington for cap relief.

I think they're happier paying $ to Pau to be their all star at C than trading for a 30 year old MAX contract player that isn't worth the extra &8M+ they'd have to pay.
 
Whatever. Maybe you can make a lopsided deal for LeBron, too.
 
Bro I don't think they'll trade Butler. I'm just saying if they can put their team in a better position via trade, theyd do it
 
People make this kind of trade in video games. Lol
 
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