Joe Cronin vs. Dame Dolla

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Who has handled this the right way? (What team are you?)

  • Team Cronin

    Votes: 28 53.8%

  • Team Dame

    Votes: 4 7.7%

  • Neither have handled it right

    Votes: 16 30.8%

  • Both have handled it right

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • Team Jacob

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Total voters
    52
Like what someone said earlier about value on the Dame Dollar. After his agent throwing down the gauntlet after only going to Miami I think we are going to get about 25 cents on the Dame Dollar in value the way things are going.
 
Irish Trader said:
Like what someone said earlier about value on the Dame Dollar. After his agent throwing down the gauntlet after only going to Miami I think we are going to get about 25 cents on the Dame Dollar in value the way things are going.
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We haven't caved yet. Why cave now? Don't trade him.
 
Mote said:
I disagree. This is an absolutely binary situation between the Blazer team and Dame. I am not one who would say Joe handled everything correctly, because I don’t know, and he probably did not. What I can say is Dame has handled his trade request about as poorly as could be imagined. I don’t even blame his agent as he works for Dame. All the years he preached about not running from the grind and the importance of loyalty are out the window.

In his effort to give the middle finger to Blazer management and ownership (both of which will change one day) he has also given it to the Blazer fan base which for the greater part will remain loyal.

This parting could have been done in an amicable manner, but now that is not possible as Dame and his support team are acting much like a petulant child.
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That's a fair opinion but like I was just trying to explain to someone who sees it my way except a little more extreme... it is just an opinion. So much of this process has been behind closed doors that we're all speculating about a lot of things.

I'll just say again, this is Dame's life and we are just fans with a hobby. Dame is taking extreme action and I don't blame you for not liking those actions but I think trying to match the intensity of Dame's actions with your reaction doesn't really make a lot of sense here because again he is making moves that have extremely serious consequences in his real life and don't really do anything to any of us.
 
They don’t want jovic or Jaquez in deal

ROFLMAO

I will burn my Dame jersey if he handcuffs us like this and we end up with shitty 1s and Duncan Robinson.
 
Whyachi said:
Naturally the Blazers self defense button gets turned on, and the Blazers are trying to flip the narrative by saying EVERYTHING wrong in Portland is Lillard's fault.
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Where have they said that?
 
RonBrewer said:
Joe reads the board. Joe has to get this right. Joe can't fuck this up.

Fuck Dame, his agent, Pat Riley, Heat fans and their whole Palm Tree City and fuck the humidity
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Fuck Miami as a staff, basketball team and as a motherfuckin' crew... And if you want to be down with Miami, then fuck you too.
 
RonBrewer said:
Joe reads the board. Joe has to get this right. Joe can't fuck this up.

Fuck Dame, his agent, Pat Riley, Heat fans and their whole Palm Tree City and fuck the humidity
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Does he?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Have to be willing to call Dame's bluff and let this ride into the season. Dame doesn't have time. He's 33.

Is the Miami offer going to change between now and the trade deadline? A bunch of shitty picks and mediocre talent? Probably not.
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if the Miami offer is as good as it gets, right now, and Dame doesn't back off his Miami or bust stance (which may not be as hard-line privately as publicly), it might be that the Blazers should just eat the inevitable shit sandwich and move on. I get the fuckdamefuckmiami sentiment, but the Blazers are stuck right now on the wrong side of the Dame saga
 
wizenheimer said:
if the Miami offer is as good as it gets, right now, and Dame doesn't back off his Miami or bust stance (which may not be as hard-line privately as publicly), it might be that the Blazers should just eat the inevitable shit sandwich and move on. I get the fuckdamefuckmiami sentiment, but the Blazers are stuck right now on the wrong side of the Dame saga
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Not really. Value very well goes up at Deadline. I think it would be bad for Joe to cave at this point. Regardless of my personal feelings
 
RonBrewer said:
Not really. Value very well goes up at Deadline. I think it would be bad for Joe to cave at this point. Regardless of my personal feelings
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I do not believe Dame's value would go up...the opposite actually

having the first season of the Scoot/Sharpe era being completely distracted by a Dame sideshow doesn't make sense to me....at all

So Dame's around...he's starting and playing right? Ant's around, starting and playing. Scoot and Sharpe are sitting on the bench. Meanwhile Dame gets closer and closer to turning 34

or will it be that Dame gets benched, as many of you would want. Retribution. It's foolish to think his value would increase in a situation like that....or more to the point, that Portland's leverage would increase. Again, I see the opposite happening
 
wizenheimer said:
I do not believe Dame's value would go up...the opposite actually

having the first season of the Scoot/Sharpe era being completely distracted by a Dame sideshow doesn't make sense to me....at all

So Dame's around...he's starting and playing right? Ant's around, starting and playing. Scoot and Sharpe are sitting on the bench. Meanwhile Dame gets closer and closer to turning 34

or will it be that Dame gets benched, as many of you would want. Retribution. It's foolish to think his value would increase in a situation like that....or more to the point, that Portland's leverage would increase. Again, I see the opposite happening
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I don't care one way or another if he gets benched. He can play for all i care.

Every talking head has said his value would be better at the deadline. Nobody's opinion is an end in the search for the truth. Always somewhere in the middle. You've got your opinion, i've got mine.

Would be terrible to cave for a undervalued trade at this point.
 
Mote said:
I disagree. This is an absolutely binary situation between the Blazer team and Dame. I am not one who would say Joe handled everything correctly, because I don’t know, and he probably did not. What I can say is Dame has handled his trade request about as poorly as could be imagined. I don’t even blame his agent as he works for Dame. All the years he preached about not running from the grind and the importance of loyalty are out the window.

In his effort to give the middle finger to Blazer management and ownership (both of which will change one day) he has also given it to the Blazer fan base which for the greater part will remain loyal.

This parting could have been done in an amicable manner, but now that is not possible as Dame and his support team are acting much like a petulant child.
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And I'll reiterate my question: Why? Why would Dame behave this way when there was a clear public "high road" path? They can snipe behind the scenes, but both sides were incentivized to cooperate. I am stymied as to why Dame chose to burn his hard-earned reputation.
 
wizenheimer said:
I do not believe Dame's value would go up...the opposite actually

having the first season of the Scoot/Sharpe era being completely distracted by a Dame sideshow doesn't make sense to me....at all

So Dame's around...he's starting and playing right? Ant's around, starting and playing. Scoot and Sharpe are sitting on the bench. Meanwhile Dame gets closer and closer to turning 34

or will it be that Dame gets benched, as many of you would want. Retribution. It's foolish to think his value would increase in a situation like that....or more to the point, that Portland's leverage would increase. Again, I see the opposite happening
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I think if Miami doesn't present an offer we can stomach in next few days then you trade him to another team assuming they have better offers and do it in the next week or two, agree if we wait too long then for a few reasons value goes down and its not a good idea with Scoot/Shae era ready to roll.
 
wizenheimer said:
I do not believe Dame's value would go up...the opposite actually

having the first season of the Scoot/Sharpe era being completely distracted by a Dame sideshow doesn't make sense to me....at all

So Dame's around...he's starting and playing right? Ant's around, starting and playing. Scoot and Sharpe are sitting on the bench. Meanwhile Dame gets closer and closer to turning 34

or will it be that Dame gets benched, as many of you would want. Retribution. It's foolish to think his value would increase in a situation like that....or more to the point, that Portland's leverage would increase. Again, I see the opposite happening
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Who said they want Dame benched?

My position would be to tell him we haven't been able to get an equitable return for him, and that if he wants to go, then play like hell and show everyone they were wrong for lowballing us. I've never seen Dame run from an on-court challenge. Play him 36 minutes per game and let Dame be Dame. If it retards the progress of this team for a few months, it's no big deal in the grand scheme of things.
 
Tince said:
I see two parties attempting to do what they feel is in their own best interest. There is a case that cooperating may have produced the best outcome, but if both sides didn't have full trust in each other, then expecting them to work together is also a stretch.

I don't think Cronin or Dame are really handling this wrong. It's a tricky situation.
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Agreed... this is a career-altering thing for both Cronin and Dame, and they both have different interests. I don't have a problem with how either of them have handled it, and I think the only groups of people who seem upset so far are:
  • Heat fans who think they should get what they want
  • Dame fans who feel betrayed
  • Dame fans who feel like Dame is getting screwed
  • Media members who get paid to seem upset
As a Blazers fan, I am enjoying this. I am excited about moving on with a young team and I'm fascinated to see who we get for Dame.

I am much more concerned about our contract decisions and the fact we are one of the smallest NBA teams I can remember.
 
wizenheimer said:
if the Miami offer is as good as it gets, right now, and Dame doesn't back off his Miami or bust stance (which may not be as hard-line privately as publicly), it might be that the Blazers should just eat the inevitable shit sandwich and move on. I get the fuckdamefuckmiami sentiment, but the Blazers are stuck right now on the wrong side of the Dame saga
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I disagree.
 
andalusian said:
Joe should issue a statement that he is giving Miami a chance to come with an acceptable offer and if it does not happen, there will be another conversation to be had.
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He should. But there's nothing they can ever do to come out as the best offer short of including Bam. And they're not going to do that.
 
maxiep said:
And I'll reiterate my question: Why? Why would Dame behave this way when there was a clear public "high road" path? They can snipe behind the scenes, but both sides were incentivized to cooperate. I am stymied as to why Dame chose to burn his hard-earned reputation.
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I am gobsmacked and cannot give the answer to 'why' he has taken this path. It is out of character given his previous stellar conduct in the public arena.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Fuck Miami as a staff, basketball team and as a motherfuckin' crew... And if you want to be down with Miami, then fuck you too.
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Expand those lyrics and rap them in your next podcast.
 
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