Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly to debate over the rapper Common

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Jon Stewart has officially accepted Bill O’Reilly’s challenge to come on The O’Reilly Factor and debate the White House’s decision to invite the rapper Common to a poetry event hosted by Michelle Obama. The verbal showdown will air Monday at 8 p.m. ET on Fox News. O’Reilly threw down the gauntlet on his show last night, after Stewart rapped his take on Fox News pundits’ protest on The Daily Show Wednesday.


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Kind of dumb. O'Reilly is famous for not allowing his guests equality in debating with him. For example, he takes the lion's share of the time.

Why do people even listen to him?
 
Kind of dumb. O'Reilly is famous for not allowing his guests equality in debating with him. For example, he takes the lion's share of the time.

Why do people even listen to him?

Lanny!

You need to visit more.
 
Not the easiest forum for me to navigate.

But yeah, I'm kind of sick and tired of Jet. I guess that sort of says it all regarding that jerk.

Had eye surgery today. Laser surgery for damage to my retina. They may have to repeat it for my other eye if it shows future problems the way this eye did.

In the meantime, my wife is waiting on me hand and foot so life ain't all bad.
 
Not the easiest forum for me to navigate.

But yeah, I'm kind of sick and tired of Jet. I guess that sort of says it all regarding that jerk.

Had eye surgery today. Laser surgery for damage to my retina. They may have to repeat it for my other eye if it shows future problems the way this eye did.

In the meantime, my wife is waiting on me hand and foot so life ain't all bad.

Jet is an idiot. Sorry to hear about your eye surgery.

So in other words your wife is keeping an eye on you? (Sorry, bad joke)

Anyway you'll get used to the format the more you post here. And when you do you'll see we've gone terribly off topic in this thread, lol.
 
Common is one of the most politically conscious artists out there. Poet, actor, musician. From Chicago, I'm sure that's why he got the invite.
 
He's a sellout ever since he lost his "sense".

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He's a sellout ever since he lost his "sense".

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That was right after his first album dropped.........try a couple years ago. I actually have the first release with the name Common Sense on it before the re-issue.
 

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Why the hell do people care about this issue? There are so many bigger issues than this one.
 
Why the hell do people care about this issue? There are so many bigger issues than this one.

I think we'll have to agree not to disagree on that.

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That was right after his first album dropped.........try a couple years ago. I actually have the first release with the name Common Sense on it before the re-issue.

Same. Great album. Bought the remix single of resurrection too!

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Why the hell do people care about this issue? There are so many bigger issues than this one.

It's a scare tactic, used to gather negative momentum for one political party. Not uncommon among both sides.

It is such a pointless issue, I feel dumber having learned about it.
 
I like common a lot. Don't know why Bill would object to this. Rap is just another form of art, and very similar to poetry. Sure, there are some rappers that are very mainstream and have little artistic value, but there are others who rap about very spiritual and important issues... so I don't see the problem.

I always loved this song.

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Fox News......reading comprehension is generally considered a good thing. And old white people trying understand rap and thinking it's all made by gangsters is pretty damn funny too.
 
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The invitation of rapper Common to the White House this week is drawing the ire of the union representing New Jersey state police.

While even casual hip-hop fans wouldn't characterize him as a controversial rapper, Common found himself under the microscope after First Lady Michelle Obama invited him to the White House for an arts event. In question: the lyrics to "A Song for Assata," about convicted cop-killer and former Black Panther Assata Shakur.

The White House said Wednesday it stood by the decision to invite Common. Press Secretary Jay Carney said the conservative backlash distorts what Common stands for, and added that the president appreciates Common's work with children in Chicago.

FOX News and Sarah Palin condemned the decision after the Daily Caller published some of Common's lyrics, including some that criticize former President George W. Bush.

For New Jersey police, the outrage centers on "A Song for Assata" lyrics like "Your power and pride is beautiful. May God bless your soul."


Shakur, formerly known as Joanne Chesimard, was convicted for the 1973 slaying of Trooper Werner Foerster on the New Jersey Turnpike. She escaped prison in 1979, and is living in asylum in Cuba.

"The young people who read this stuff, hear this stuff, are getting a very dangerous and deadly message," David Jones, president of the State Troopers Fraternal Association union, said on Tuesday.

After the union made the case on Tuesday, the New Jersey State Police itself issued a statement on the controversy on Wednesday.

"We cannot dictate who is invited to the White House, but we will always view Joanne Chesimard as a fugitive who killed one of our own," Major Gerald Lewis, spokesman for the state police said in a statement. "We will continue our pursuit of her until she is brought to justice."

Known for being more of a brainy poet type than a thug or a gangster, Common seemed to be amused by the dust-up Tuesday, tweeting and retweeting the various news items, such as FOX News' description of him as a "vile rapper."

He also tweeted, "So apparently Sarah Palin and Fox News doesn't like me."

The White House appearance comes during the same week that lawmen from across the nation, including Jones, make their annual trek to Washington to honor their fallen comrades at the National Law Enforcement Memorial.

Sal Maggio, a retired troop commander with the state police, said his colleagues still talk about Shakur and the million dollar bounty the FBI has put on her capture.

"Hopefully someday she'll be caught," Maggio said in reaction to news of this invitation.

Common, who is also a successful actor, is known as one of the most lyrically poetic rappers. Last month he appeared in Chicago for a charity event for his foundation, honoring legendary author and poet Maya Angelou.

Neither Jones nor Maggio believe the president or first lady are fully aware of Common's song about Shakur, though the rapper did appear at campaign events for Obama when he ran for president.

"I like the president and first lady," said Maggio. "I think he's doing a pretty good job lately."

A representative for Common could not be reached.

People who condone and support cop killers have no place in the White House, no matter what the circumstances may be.

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People who condone and support cop killers have no place in the White House, no matter what the circumstances may be.

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People have a right to their opinion as this is a free country. I'm sure if someone asked Common right now, he'd probably say he has the utmost respect for the police. That's besides the point though. The condoning of killing a cop is taking completely out of context and shouldn't be taken seriously as artistic expression is always of to one's own perspective.

The invitation is for poetry and Common is one of the better lyrical rappers of our era. For controversy to stir over something so stupid is why this whole thing is funny.
 
I hate it when people call rap "poetry". Such hipster shit.

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I hate it when people call rap "poetry". Such hipster shit.

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I consider it poetry...... poetry to music. I have some cool spoken word stuff with guys like Mos Def, Common and Black Thought from The Roots.
 
I consider it poetry...... poetry to music. I have some cool spoken word stuff with guys like Mos Def, Common and Black Thought from The Roots.

Why..because it rhymes? Some county western songs do too....is that poetry too?

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poetry |ˈpōətrē; ˈpōitrē|
noun
literary work in which special intensity is given to the expression of feelings and ideas by the use of distinctive style and rhythm; poems collectively or as a genre of literature : he is chiefly famous for his love poetry.
• a quality of beauty and intensity of emotion regarded as characteristic of poems : poetry and fire are nicely balanced in the music.
• something regarded as comparable to poetry in its beauty : the music department is housed in a building that is pure poetry.
ORIGIN late Middle English : from medieval Latin poetria, from Latin poeta ‘poet.’ In early use the word sometimes referred to creative literature in general.
 
Spoken word is douchier than acoustic guitar.

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Is that the cool image you're trying to portray this month. I'm sure in a month or so, you'll have a post praising both of them separately. If everyone in LA tells you it's the cool thing to do, atleast.
 
I hope after this event Mrs. Obama holds a breakfast for good math and science teachers.
 
Some rap IS poetry. Obviously anything by Lil Wayne is pure garbage, but I think there are some rappers who could easily publish their lyrics in a book and it would be considered "poetry."

I have no idea why people are making such a big deal about this. Like sleezier people haven't been to the White House?

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