Jon Stewart and Bill O'Reilly to debate over the rapper Common

[3RA1N1AC]

Ok so rap=bad, snack wrap=awesome, got it

 

[RipCity]

People have a right to their opinion as this is a free country. I'm sure if someone asked Common right now, he'd probably say he has the utmost respect for the police. That's besides the point though. The condoning of killing a cop is taking completely out of context and shouldn't be taken seriously as artistic expression is always of to one's own perspective.

The invitation is for poetry and Common is one of the better lyrical rappers of our era. For controversy to stir over something so stupid is why this whole thing is funny.

Have you listened to the song? It's very clear that Common supports this woman. She is a cold blooded killer, and essentially a terrorist. Once again, someone who has lyrics like this has no place in the White House. And I would have to guess that if your father was the Police Officer shot twice in the head on the side of a New Jersey turnpike it wouldn't be stupid or funny to you.

 

[Da_O]

Have you listened to the song? It's very clear that Common supports this woman. She is a cold blooded killer, and essentially a terrorist. Once again, someone who has lyrics like this has no place in the White House. And I would have to guess that if your father was the Police Officer shot twice in the head on the side of a New Jersey turnpike it wouldn't be stupid or funny to you.

Music is still up to one's interpretation and a lot of activists felt they were given an unfair trial. It's alright though, as long as YOU don't think they should be in the white house then I guess the president should call it off.

I don't think Common committed any crime here and people are being way too sensitive and old-fashioned about this.

 

[Denny Crane]

The moral right was pisses off that the Beatles lyrics contained, "I want to hold your hand.". Nothing new, but I seriously doubt that many people condone violence against women or killing cops. I may not "get it," but it's clearly art.

 

[MARIS61]

Why the hell do people care about this issue? There are so many bigger issues than this one.

Says the guy who wants to stop the tiny amount of public funding that PBS gets.

 

[MARIS61]

That would make sense if anybody in this thread called rap poetry.

The invitation is for poetry and Common is one of the better lyrical rappers of our era.

Da_O

 

[MARIS61]

George Bush invited these guys:

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[Natebishop3]

The invitation is for poetry and Common is one of the better lyrical rappers of our era.

Da_O

You didn't even know who Common was until this thread, now go back to listening to Peter, Paul, and Mary or Bob Dylan.

 

[MARIS61]

You didn't even know who Common was until this thread, now go back to listening to Peter, Paul, and Mary or Bob Dylan.

LOL. I've spent more time listening to music than you have spent breathing.

I wasn't saying rap wasn't poetry. Just pointing out you were the poster who inferred it was.

 

[MARIS61]

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[jlprk]

I have probably a thousand rap albums in my library, and there's a pile of them next to me that I'm listening to today. My favorite of all time is Common. Obama knows his rap.

 

[Natebishop3]

LOL. I've spent more time listening to music than you have spent breathing.

I wasn't saying rap wasn't poetry. Just pointing out you were the poster who inferred it was.

Is my name Da_O?

Might want to look at who you're quoting there champ.

 

[jlprk]

H. Rap Brown, who invented the word honkie, was known for his deep resonant vocal chords, which ebbed in and out of his lungs like the musty air wafting from a Deep South tobacco field.

 

[jlprk]

The board loves ya, Hustl3r. Stay with us.

 

[MARIS61]

Rap was first introduced to America by white musicians, and was later hijacked by blacks in the late 70's.

The first rap song made popular back in 1948:

[video]http://searchfortruth.freeservers.com/web8/DeckOfCards.html[/video]

Here's Elvis with one of the most famous rap songs ever, in 1960:

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Another big rap hit from 1960:

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Who could forget this huge rap hit?

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My 2 personal favorite rap songs, by the finest wordsmith in music:

[video=youtube;X1T41908p54]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1T41908p54[/video]

[video=youtube;URp-Dbhr7EU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URp-Dbhr7EU[/video]

 

[jlprk]

Rap was first introduced to America by white musicians, and was later hijacked by blacks in the late 70's.

Thanks! Before I was born, but I'm rumbling out on my hog to get the ones you suggested and make my rap library 1007 strong. This makes me want to dance in the street and spin on my back.

 

[MARIS61]

You didn't even know who Common was until this thread, now go back to listening to Peter, Paul, and Mary or Bob Dylan.

Sort of ironic you would mention such famous early white pioneers of rap.

Rap in America existed in live format only for most of the 50's and early 60's, in coffee houses where beatnik poetry readings were often accompanied by improvisational music.

Here's some more great rap:

[video=youtube;MCSsVvlj6YA]

 

[jlprk]

I looked up Tony Joe White and clicked on his songs. Of his 5 songs, 3 charted well as Tina Turner hits! He also wrote a couple of throwaways.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Tony_Joe_White

 

[MARIS61]

The most influential white rapper ever:

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[MARIS61]

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[jlprk]

After hearing Common all day, I need something rougher to make me haul down Main Street on a Saturday night, something with a lot of French Horns.

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[MARIS61]

My favorite TV star rap debut:

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Walter Brennan was a fluent rapper:

[video=youtube;-OSEvSwYhno]

 

[MARIS61]

The big deal.

http://therapup.net/2011/05/watch-commons-white-house-performance/

 

[jlprk]

My favorite TV star rap debut:

[video=youtube;DCyuq-ofnPc]

Walter Brennan was a fluent rapper:

[video=youtube;-OSEvSwYhno]

You found a Real McCoy of rappers. This thread holds a bonanza of hits.

The first rap song made popular back in 1948:

[video]http://searchfortruth.freeservers.com/web8/DeckOfCards.html[/video]

Oh God will it ever end? I finally bailed out for Hell at the 8 of clubs.

 

[Da_O]

The invitation is for poetry and Common is one of the better lyrical rappers of our era.

Da_O

I still don't see where I called rap poetry? Maybe I should've worded it differently but you're the one insinuating that I did which wasn't my intention.

 

[Natebishop3]

I fail to see the relevance of all these videos to the topic at hand. Who cares where rap originated or who your favorite rapper is? The issue is whether rap is a form of art, or can be considered poetry and I think it can. All you're doing is showing that there have been other forms of rap over the years, and that it's not just something for gangsters or criminals, which I think supports my opinion on this.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I fail to see the relevance of all these videos to the topic at hand. Who cares where rap originated or who your favorite rapper is? The issue is whether rap is a form of art, or can be considered poetry and I think it can. All you're doing is showing that there have been other forms of rap over the years, and that it's not just something for gangsters or criminals, which I think supports my opinion on this.

Leave the Wiggas alone.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

white devils!

 

[MrJayremmie]

Stewart destroyed O'Reilly, btw.

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[Natebishop3]

The whole thing is so stupid. I don't think anyone would mistake me for an Obama supporter, but this is just some petty complaining.