Jostling for position

[THE HCP]

 

[wizenheimer]

not very instructive....needs to have the 3 & 4 seeds listed as well

 

[Tince]

not very instructive....needs to have the 3 & 4 seeds listed as well

 

[Tince]

That isn't true. Yes we want them to win tomorrow but it is not "At All Costs".
I'll give you this. Terry Stotts seems to agree with you.

Denver win, Dallas loss, Lakers loss:

3. Denver
4. Clippers
5. Dallas
6. Blazers

 

[blazerkor]

Did you not read Donaghy's account of how the refs are influenced before games? The league distanced themselves from that narrative, but it is well documented that he put it out there.

Oh I remember Donaghy saying a lot of things including that but why couldn't he furnish any documentation at all showing that the league engaged in this behavior. You can't look at Donaghy as a reliable source and no media outlet did. Sometimes where there's smoke there still isn't a fire but in this case there seriously isn't any smoke. Just fans looking for a reason for inconsistent reffing, when the answer is simply human error. Don't get me wrong the refs in this league really do let their feelings get involved and call certain teams different than others on purpose. I just don't see the league taking actions to get certain wins in certain games without someone at some point finding actual hard evidence.

 

[Tince]

Remember that OKC has a reason to lose as well...

 

[SheedSoNasty]

So are we playing the Clippers?

 

[Pinwheel1]

So are we playing the Clippers?

No. Denver right?

 

[Hoopguru]

So are we playing the Clippers?

Denver

 

[SheedSoNasty]

Sweet!

 

[Titan]

Denver it is

 

[Pinwheel1]

Denver will be tough to get past. But just in case we do get past them, we need the Lakers to end up in 8th, not 7th. So Go Warriors in the first Play in Game. I think we can take Phoenix in the 2nd round

 

[handiman]

Oh I remember Donaghy saying a lot of things including that but why couldn't he furnish any documentation at all showing that the league engaged in this behavior.

Maybe because the league was smart enough to not put anything in writing? That's what his story revolved around.

You can't look at Donaghy as a reliable source and no media outlet did.

I believe ESPN ran a lengthy article. Reliable or not, his story was covered. You said no journalist would write on the topic, which is false.

 

[blazerkor]

Maybe because the league was smart enough to not put anything in writing? That's what his story revolved around.



I believe ESPN ran a lengthy article. Reliable or not, his story was covered. You said no journalist would write on the topic, which is false.

Link?

 

[Tince]

Link?

I read his book and have listened to multiple long-form podcasts with him.

He said they would send the refs memos about calls to look for and the guys grading him would give him specific violations to be aware of that were missed in previous games. Example: Divac/Webber flopping. His point was when the company writing your checks and the elvaluator grading whether you were going to make the playoff crews are telling you to watch for specific things that happened to favor one team, refs don't really have much of a choice but to lean 80/20 on those 50/50 calls. 3-4 extra calls a night can make a big difference in outcomes obviously.

He came off semi-credible to me, not 100% accurate or consistent though.

 

[blazerkor]

I read his book and have listened to multiple long-form podcasts with him.

He said they would send the refs memos about calls to look for and the guys grading him would give him specific violations to be aware of that were missed in previous games. Example: Divac/Webber flopping. His point was when the company writing your checks and the elvaluator grading whether you were going to make the playoff crews are telling you to watch for specific things that happened to favor one team, refs don't really have much of a choice but to lean 80/20 on those 50/50 calls. 3-4 extra calls a night can make a big difference in outcomes obviously.

He came off semi-credible to me, not 100% accurate or consistent though.

The guy had no credibility. Where are the memo's? Also his book and some podcasts are not the accredited journalists I'm asking for. If the story was there, don't you think any news outlet not doing business with the NBA (Fox News would be a great example) would be killing themselves to break the biggest story in the history of pro sports and take down the NBA. Every news outlet vetted what Donaghy was putting out there and could find nothing to corroborate it and run with themselves.

Biased NBA reffing is totally real... orders coming down from the top of the league, that's some QAnon shit.

 

[Tince]

The guy had no credibility. Where are the memo's? Also his book and some podcasts are not the accredited journalists I'm asking for. If the story was there, don't you think any news outlet not doing business with the NBA (Fox News would be a great example) would be killing themselves to break the biggest story in the history of pro sports and take down the NBA. Every news outlet vetted what Donaghy was putting out there and could find nothing to corroborate it and run with themselves.

Biased NBA reffing is totally real... orders coming down from the top of the league, that's some QAnon shit.

What are you basing Donaghy having NO credibility? I think that's a bit harsh.

Having been convicted of a crime, cheating, etc. does not exclude anyone from being able to share credible information. Like I said previously, I do not take his word as the gospel, but I think some of what he said is more than plausable.

 

[Titan]

Link?

www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25980368/how-former-ref-tim-donaghy-conspired-fix-nba-games%3fplatform=amp
This is the link to ESPN’s investigation which came out not to long ago, just before covid stuff went down. So someone was will to investigate. My whole comment was more in jest, but you have to realize that the l*kers and lebron do get some bias officiating/benefit which is why it would be best to avoid them in playoffs.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

So are we playing the Clippers?

no