Funny Jussie Smollett's act brings up a question.

[MARIS61]

Whitaker said he was “particularly troubled by the increase in anti-Semitic hate crimes,” which are already the most common type of religious hate crime in the United States.


Anti-Semitic hate crimes rose 37 percent in 2017. Anti-Islamic hate crimes declined 11 percent last year, with 273 such incidents, the data show.


The new FBI data comes less than a month after the worst anti-Semitic attack in U.S. history — a shooting at a Pittsburgh synagogue that killed 11 and wounded six. The suspect in that attack has been charged with dozens of federal hate crimes, and that one incident alone accounted for nearly as many hate crime killings as were recorded all of last year in the United States: 15.


Jonathan A. Greenblatt, CEO of the Anti-Defamation League, said the report “provides further evidence that more must be done to address the divisive climate of hate in America. That begins with leaders from all walks of life and from all sectors of society forcefully condemning anti-Semitism, bigotry, and hate whenever it occurs.”

 

[julius]

Outpouring of affection leads to potential rating boost, which in turn leads to salary bump.

Pure scum

I don't think that would actually work out that way though.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

What's the punishment for sending the letter with aspirin in it?

 

[Cippy91]

What's the punishment for sending the letter with aspirin in it?

He will probably get a slap on the wrist for everything

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I’m not up to date on this thread but before I catch up I’ll state my opinion.

I’m livid at this man or anyone who diminishes the importance and hate crimes and provides an easy obfuscation to truly salient problem in our society.

Hate crimes have risen 17% in the past year and yet assholes like this make a real problem look made up. He should be ridiculed and all fans should disavow (I didn’t know who he was till this). Hopefully prosecutors will be successful and he will have a conviction and perhaps a short stint in jail for this hoax.

Im woefully ignorant here so, please dont beat me up too badly, how do they determine whats a hate crime and what is just someone being a crappy person? Im sure in some cases its fairly clear that they targetted a certain group, be it race, gender, sexuality, or world view.
In some cases someone may have killed 3 “insert group” but it wasnt driven by hate for that group, but something else.

 

[barfo]

Im woefully ignorant here so, please dont beat me up too badly, how do they determine whats a hate crime and what is just someone being a crappy person? Im sure in some cases its fairly clear that they targetted a certain group, be it race, gender, sexuality, or world view.
In some cases someone may have killed 3 “insert group” but it wasnt driven by hate for that group, but something else.

I think to prosecute as a hate crime the government has to show some evidence that it was. If there isn't any, then it doesn't get charged as (or convicted as) such.

barfo

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I think to prosecute as a hate crime the government has to show some evidence that it was. If there isn't any, then it doesn't get charged as (or convicted as) such.

barfo

Thank you.

 

[Orion Bailey]

This shit just takes the cake.

@oldmangrouch if you have lost all hope for our future this should be a part of the reason why......

 

[CupWizier]

Can any of you trumpers explain why trump tweeted out about this case, but has been completely silent on a assassination plot of several Democratic candidates, Democratic politicians and some news people? Which one do you think is a more national concern?

 

[e_blazer]

Can any of you trumpers explain why trump tweeted out about this case, but has been completely silent on a assassination plot of several Democratic candidates, Democratic politicians and some news people? Which one do you think is a more national concern?

Just a relatively uninformed guess, but I'd say one fits his political narrative and the other does not?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Can any of you trumpers explain why trump tweeted out about this case, but has been completely silent on a assassination plot of several Democratic candidates, Democratic politicians and some news people? Which one do you think is a more national concern?

Because like all entities private or public, it is not in the best interest to shed light to circumstances/acts that would bring forth negativity.

Not saying its right or moral but its how the world works. Welcome to mother earth.

 

[CupWizier]

Because like all entities private or public, it is not in the best interest to shed light to circumstances/acts that would bring forth negativity.

Not saying its right or moral but its how the world works. Welcome to mother earth.

wtf?

Every thing that comes out of trumps mouth is built on fear and negativity. Not commenting on the Coast Guard idiot by the president is totally stupid and unacceptable. No excuses.

 

[Orion Bailey]

wtf?

Every thing that comes out of trumps mouth is built on fear and negativity. Not commenting on the Coast Guard idiot by the president is totally stupid and unacceptable. No excuses.

Again, I never said it was right or moral, but it definitely is reality and Trump is not the only one to publicize positive aspects while suppressing negative aspects of things. That’s simply the fact of American life.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Just a relatively uninformed guess, but I'd say one fits his political narrative and the other does not?

Duh

 

[oldmangrouch]

Im woefully ignorant here so, please dont beat me up too badly, how do they determine whats a hate crime and what is just someone being a crappy person? Im sure in some cases its fairly clear that they targetted a certain group, be it race, gender, sexuality, or world view.
In some cases someone may have killed 3 “insert group” but it wasnt driven by hate for that group, but something else.

Simple. "Hate crimes" is the term used by chickenshit politicians who won't call domestic terrorism by its true name. If the crime was committed by a muslim, would you call it terrorism? If not, then it isn't a hate crime.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Hate crimes are the same as capital punishment laws. A waste of time.
If its illiegal, like @bodyman5000 and 1 said, then its illegal no matter the motivation.

As if capital punishment is a deterent to thugs who live thier lives dodging bullets on a regular basis. There is no long term logic to such laws in my opinion. Just a waste of bureaucracy aNd tax dollars.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Can any of you trumpers explain why trump tweeted out about this case, but has been completely silent on a assassination plot of several Democratic candidates, Democratic politicians and some news people? Which one do you think is a more national concern?

Because Trump only cares about Trump.

I honestly wonder how Trump would react if white nationalists called for the death of his immigrant wife and her son?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Because Trump only cares about Trump.

I honestly wonder how Trump would react if white nationalists called for the death of his immigrant wife and her son?

Good thing nobody ever talked about killing Trump or hung him in efffigy like they did with Bush and Obama and the next president after Trump.

It is also good that nobody ever talked about his wife being a gold digging whore. If they had he'd nuke US obviously.

 

[CupWizier]

Again, I never said it was right or moral, but it definitely is reality and Trump is not the only one to publicize positive aspects while suppressing negative aspects of things. That’s simply the fact of American life.

I think you are missing my point. trump is suppose to be the leader of the USA so commenting on acts of violence such as the Coast Guard idiot is part of his job and also to comfort the citizens rather than continually trying to build fear.. This situation is an actual emergency. Not his fucking wall or Jussie Smollet and we hear about his wall, the enemy news media, the enemy democrats, the enemy FBI and other DOJ departments almost on a daily basis. How can anyone support a person that doesn't support all of us and only caters to his shrinking base and his billionaire buddies along with the Russians and Saudi's.

 

[CupWizier]

Good thing nobody ever talked about killing Trump or hung him in efffigy like they did with Bush and Obama and the next president after Trump.

It is also good that nobody ever talked about his wife being a gold digging whore. If they had he'd nuke US obviously.

Does random stupidity just flow out of you or is this an art of yours? You definitely post some of the dumbest stuff in this forum.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Does random stupidity just flow out of you or is this an art of yours? You definitely post some of the dumbest stuff in this forum.

 

[Orion Bailey]

I think you are missing my point. trump is suppose to be the leader of the USA so commenting on acts of violence such as the Coast Guard idiot is part of his job and also to comfort the citizens rather than continually trying to build fear.. This situation is an actual emergency. Not his fucking wall or Jussie Smollet and we hear about his wall, the enemy news media, the enemy democrats, the enemy FBI and other DOJ departments almost on a daily basis. How can anyone support a person that doesn't support all of us and only caters to his shrinking base and his billionaire buddies along with the Russians and Saudi's.

Well if you want to be 100% serious, i dont think his job is to comment on either situation. He shouldb e oayong attention to specifics of things. The president should be a big picture guy and remained on that. He has plenty of staff to comment on, gather up and assess the specifics.

This is any oresident. Not just Trump.
I cant stand his use of social media. I think its a sign of the future downfall of our Communication and this country.

With that said hiw often do you hear a car company spam out that they had issues woth thier vehicle, unless it gets a recall?

Do you think nike would jave brought to public zions shoe exploding if it was in a private setting and know one else knew about it?

Yes, some things arent fair but they are very much reality.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Good thing nobody ever talked about killing Trump or hung him in efffigy like they did with Bush and Obama and the next president after Trump.

It is also good that nobody ever talked about his wife being a gold digging whore. If they had he'd nuke US obviously.

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

 

[Orion Bailey]

Does random stupidity just flow out of you or is this an art of yours? You definitely post some of the dumbest stuff in this forum.

Man. Way to make it personal aNd derail a decent conversation...
Do you ever look in the mirror? cause this post is chalked so full of hypocritical bullshit im drowning of poop right now....

 

[Orion Bailey]

What the actual fuck are you talking about?

He is talking Bout how he has already been threatened and didnt blow a lid so the arguement was straw man at best.

I feel like a god damn mediator over here....

 

[CupWizier]

Man. Way to make it personal aNd derail a decent conversation...
Do you ever look in the mirror? cause this post is chalked so full of hypocritical bullshit im drowning of poop right now....

This doesn't involve you OB as bm1000 derailed this thread with his stupid posts, not me.

 

[Orion Bailey]

This doesn't involve you OB as bm1000 derailed this thread with his stupid posts, not me.

Your self awareness is on a level all its own.

 

[CupWizier]

Well if you want to be 100% serious, i dont think his job is to comment on either situation. He shouldb e oayong attention to specifics of things. The president should be a big picture guy and remained on that. He has plenty of staff to comment on, gather up and assess the specifics.

This is any oresident. Not just Trump.
I cant stand his use of social media. I think its a sign of the future downfall of our Communication and this country.

With that said hiw often do you hear a car company spam out that they had issues woth thier vehicle, unless it gets a recall?

Do you think nike would jave brought to public zions shoe exploding if it was in a private setting and know one else knew about it?

Yes, some things arent fair but they are very much reality.

It's not his job to comment on National emergency issues? You don;t think a serious plot to assassinate many politicians and media people a serious issue, but his fucking wall is? Give me a break. Being a republican doesn't mean you need to buy into his bull shit and lack of doing what he should be doing. Nothing out of the White House? Why is that? (pretty sure you already know the answer). It has nothing to do with being fair and all to do with trump not supporting all facets of America. He's not for the people, he's for his 35% and his billionaire buddies. If you don't think so then you have been duped.

 

[CupWizier]

Your self awareness is on a level all its own.

It's your shit storm, not mine.

OB "im drowning of poop right now"