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Sounds like someone is just looking for an excuse to do what he wants to do anyway.

barfo

One day a hunter took his trusty Winchester to the mountains to hunt for bear. He hid behind a rock that overlooked a beautiful valley and waited.

Soon a bear appeared by the stream which ran through the valley. The hunter aimed and fired. When the smoke cleared he couldn't see the bear.

Then there was a tap, tap, tap on his shoulder.

The man turned around and there was the bear, standing 7 feet high, towering over him. The bear said, "you tried to shoot me didn't you?" To which the Hunter replied, "Yes, I'm afraid I did." "Well," said the Bear, "in that case you will have to give me a blow job.

Having no choice in the matter, the Hunter did as he was told.

That night the Hunter was really angry and vowed to get revenge. So the next day he went to the same spot, only this time he brought a huge elephant gun. Once again the bear appeared and the hunter fired. After the smoke cleared the hunter couldn't see no carcass.

Tap, tap, tap. "You tried to shoot me didn't you?"

"Why, yes, I'm afraid I did."

"Well take your pants down and bend over. I'm going to have to screw you up the ass. Having no choice the Hunter did what he was told.

That night the Hunter was really, really angry and resolved that he would get the Bear no matter what.

This time he brought an M60. He went to the same spot and waited until the bear appeared by the stream. He fired off fifty rounds. When the smoke cleared, he couldn't see the bear.

Tap, tap, tap. "You tried to shoot me didn't you?"

The Hunter Gulped. "Yes, I'm afraid I did."

The Bear thought for a moment then said, "You don't come here for the hunting, do you?"
 
Liberal logic is easy to understand. Doesn't mean you have to agree with it. For the most part, they just want to help people. Most of it is about empathy.

Education
Health care
Social services like food stamps and social security.

Most of what they want is coming from a good place. They want people to have a better life. They want everyone to be treated equally. I don't blame them for wanting these things. The problem that I have with liberal logic is that I don't think it's realistic. Everyone is not always equal. Not everyone should go to college. But we ARE falling behind the rest of the world in k-12 education. Our healthcare system is totally fucked. So I get it. I understand why they want these things. I just think we have to be realistic about how we're going to pay for it.

Gun rights.... I get it, they see people dying from guns and they want to see it stop. But they aren't realistic about what gun control laws will achieve. They aren't being logical.

At the same time, I see too much hate from the GOP. Anti gay politicians. Hatred for immigrants. Trump ran on fear and hatred. That's why I can't support that guy. Period. Hillary ran on being the lesser of two evils, and Trump ran on fear, hate, and disrespect. It's pretty sad what our two party system has come to.

Nate, my man, your take is too stark, your palette short on colors. One side of your coin is very bright and shiny, the other very dull and tarnished.
Not so bad until you notice the palette also has the wrong colors.
 
Nate, my man, your take is too stark, your palette short on colors. One side of your coin is very bright and shiny, the other very dull and tarnished.
Not so bad until you notice the palette also has the wrong colors.

MarAzul, have you been painting your money again?

barfo
 
Nate, my man, your take is too stark, your palette short on colors. One side of your coin is very bright and shiny, the other very dull and tarnished.
Not so bad until you notice the palette also has the wrong colors.

Metaphors are great, but I'm curious which parts you disagree with and why.
 
Liberal logic is easy to understand. Doesn't mean you have to agree with it. For the most part, they just want to help people. Most of it is about empathy.

Education
Health care
Social services like food stamps and social security.

Most of what they want is coming from a good place. They want people to have a better life. They want everyone to be treated equally. I don't blame them for wanting these things. The problem that I have with liberal logic is that I don't think it's realistic. Everyone is not always equal. Not everyone should go to college. But we ARE falling behind the rest of the world in k-12 education. Our healthcare system is totally fucked. So I get it. I understand why they want these things. I just think we have to be realistic about how we're going to pay for it.

Gun rights.... I get it, they see people dying from guns and they want to see it stop. But they aren't realistic about what gun control laws will achieve. They aren't being logical.

At the same time, I see too much hate from the GOP. Anti gay politicians. Hatred for immigrants. Trump ran on fear and hatred. That's why I can't support that guy. Period. Hillary ran on being the lesser of two evils, and Trump ran on fear, hate, and disrespect. It's pretty sad what our two party system has come to.
We are fallinh behind in education because the liberal education system is more concerned about teaching kids to be politically correct than teaching them ti critically think.

Liberal gun law logic fails because marijuama being criminalized doesnt stop people from smoking weed except for the non criminals who want to hold jobs just like gun laws will only stop people who follow the law from buying guns. People who follow the law dont kill people because they follow the law

Liberal healthcare just got my taxes garnished because 2 years ago my wife took an ambulance ride and the retarded county tried to charge tricare instead of the VA. So because they fucked up their paper work our taxes are garnished. I know plenty of ass holes in the county that get ambulance rides just to get close to downtown. And their taxes arent garnished because they dont pay taxes. Hurray liberalism.
 
Just who is this Mags person you're talking about?

Never heard of him.
 
We are fallinh behind in education because the liberal education system is more concerned about teaching kids to be politically correct than teaching them ti critically think.

Liberal gun law logic fails because marijuama being criminalized doesnt stop people from smoking weed except for the non criminals who want to hold jobs just like gun laws will only stop people who follow the law from buying guns. People who follow the law dont kill people because they follow the law

Liberal healthcare just got my taxes garnished because 2 years ago my wife took an ambulance ride and the retarded county tried to charge tricare instead of the VA. So because they fucked up their paper work our taxes are garnished. I know plenty of ass holes in the county that get ambulance rides just to get close to downtown. And their taxes arent garnished because they dont pay taxes. Hurray liberalism.

Actually, we're falling behind in education because of our stupid testing system. Teachers are pushed to teach towards standardized test scores, because that's how they measure success. It's really quite silly.
 
Actually, we're falling behind in education because of our stupid testing system. Teachers are pushed to teach towards standardized test scores, because that's how they measure success. It's really quite silly.
We're really falling behind because of a lack of education outside the classroom....tutors...people here won't sacrifice entertainment time to work on their weakest subjects...in Asia..parents spend lots of money on tutoring and education outside of school....as a parent I got up hours before work to help my son prepare for a test...he got an academic scholarship with honors but it took discipline and sacrifice...that gave him a good work ethic in college where he graduated with honors....too many parents just let the kids watch tv or play video games and only look at report cards....teachers are limited in what they can accomplish in a classroom. Education needs to have more context....buy a pair of shoes for your kid on sale...have him explain what the discount is and how much he saves...learn to budget...whatever...schools can do so much but education of children is primarily a parenting responsibility. We're not here to raise your kids.
 
We're really falling behind because of a lack of education outside the classroom....tutors...people here won't sacrifice entertainment time to work on their weakest subjects...in Asia..parents spend lots of money on tutoring and education outside of school....as a parent I got up hours before work to help my son prepare for a test...he got an academic scholarship with honors but it took discipline and sacrifice...that gave him a good work ethic in college where he graduated with honors....too many parents just let the kids watch tv or play video games and only look at report cards....teachers are limited in what they can accomplish in a classroom. Education needs to have more context....buy a pair of shoes for your kid on sale...have him explain what the discount is and how much he saves...learn to budget...whatever...schools can do so much but education of children is primarily a parenting responsibility. We're not here to raise your kids.

That's all well and good, but if the primary directive is to teach kids towards testing well, that's not actually giving them a good education. They're not learning a well rounded spectrum of subjects.
 

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