K. Thomas Threatens to Fight Marbury

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Here's the link to the Caron stats you wanted Link Just scroll down to February and it has his averages.</div>
Shapecity, those numbers you gve me were when he was a rookie. In his sophomore year, when the Heat made that run after the break, he averaged 10.8ppg, while shooting 39.9% from the field.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Here's the link to the Caron stats you wanted Link Just scroll down to February and it has his averages.</div>
Shapecity, those numbers you gve me were when he was a rookie. In his sophomore year, when the Heat made that run after the break, he averaged 10.8ppg, while shooting 39.9% from the field.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">So your opinion is more valid than mine? Where does that reasoning come from? And in this case, it seems like only your opinion is different from everyone else's. Ask everyone else on JBB, and I can guarantee that not another single soul would say the Knicks would make the playoffs. Sure, it's still mathematically possible, but mathematically, the Bobcats can make the playoffs too. Would it happen though?</div>
I never said that. I said your opinion will not matter because it will not affect the Knicks play. It is a fact those games have a good chance at being won. I said there was a chance. If you read my posts, you would have noticed I said, we might make the playoffs or we might not. Not a single soul thinks the Knicks will make the playoffs? Tribute to H2O just said that they will. So much for your guarantee. The Bobcats can still make the playoffs but they probably wont. Maybe if they were only 5 games back from the playoffs, I would think differently.

 

[Shapecity]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">Shapecity, those numbers you gve me were when he was a rookie. In his sophomore year, when the Heat made that run after the break, he averaged 10.8ppg, while shooting 39.9% from the field.


I never said that. I said your opinion will not matter because it will not affect the Knicks play. It is a fact those games have a good chance at being won. I said there was a chance. If you read my posts, you would have noticed I said, we might make the playoffs or we might not. Not a single soul thinks the Knicks will make the playoffs? Tribute to H2O just said that they will. So much for your guarantee. The Bobcats can still make the playoffs but they probably wont. Maybe if they were only 5 games back from the playoffs, I would think differently.</div>
I just clicked on the 2003 link and got those numbers. How did you come up with 10.8?

Anyways the point for bringing the Heat in to the argument was comparing the Knicks at the break versus last year's Heat at the break. Last year the East was not as competitive, so I don't think the Knicks can duplicate the Heat's run.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I just clicked on the 2003 link and got those numbers. How did you come up with 10.8?</div>
The 2004 numbers is what we needed. I didn't use those numbers I used the 2004 numbers when he was a sohpomore.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyways the point for bringing the Heat in to the argument was comparing the Knicks at the break versus last year's Heat at the break. Last year the East was not as competitive, so I don't think the Knicks can duplicate the Heat's run.</div>
I don't know about that. I think it is just as bad as last year. Even if it wasn't I don't think it is competitive enough to make a huge difference. And the Heat ended up getting #4 we're trying to get at least #8.

 

[Trip]

Shapecity, the Heat made their run in the 2003-2004 season, and those stats are from February 2003, when he was a rookie and the Heat were stinking it up.

mrj18, I seriously don't see a point in arguing with you anymore since you never get what I'm trying to say anyways. And argument is fruitless if you fail to convince your opponent of your view. You haven't convinced me and neither have I convinced you, and I'm not going to anyways because I've got better things to do and you're just too damn stubborn. When the season ends, we will see who was right and who wasn't, but right now, no compromise will be reached. One last question though, who do you think has a better chance of making the playoffs then? Raptors or Knicks? They both have the same record. Something deep down tells me you will go with the Knicks.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">mrj18, I seriously don't see a point in arguing with you anymore since you never get what I'm trying to say anyways. And argument is fruitless if you fail to convince your opponent of your view. You haven't convinced me and neither have I convinced you, and I'm not going to anyways because I've got better things to do and you're just too damn stubborn. When the season ends, we will see who was right and who wasn't, but right now, no compromise will be reached. One last question though, who do you think has a better chance of making the playoffs then? Raptors or Knicks? They both have the same record. Something deep down tells me you will go with the Knicks.</div>
You're arguments don't convince me. You might say I'm stubborn but, "in my opinion" just doesn't do a good job of convincing me. 5 games back to me is very possible but obviously not you, anyways, I think the Knicks have a better chance in making the playoffs. Sure they have problems with Kurt and Marbury but accordimg to them it's all good now. The NY media is known to blow up things. Notice it says after the Knicks beat the Cavaliers which was a while ago. The Raptors have so much to deal with bigger than this. They have Alston and his problems, Marshall having problems, and Vince Carter's name still coming up. They have a chance to just like the Knicks.

 

[NJNetz]

it would be funny if marbury gets traded and knicks start playin better

 

[B.e.]

Can't players just play basketball anymore?

 

[Penny]

Well yeah but when your losing so bad you tend to get frustrated and the New York media dones't help the situation when your losing.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Penny:</div><div class="quote_post">Well yeah but when your losing so bad you tend to get frustrated and the New York media dones't help the situation when your losing.</div>
I know, but is the Knicks trying to prove them wrong out of the question? They have improved right? 5 games isn't impossible.

 

[Trip]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mrj18:</div><div class="quote_post">I know, but is the Knicks trying to prove them wrong out of the question? They have improved right? 5 games isn't impossible.</div>
According to you, a 22-7 record is possible. Nothing Is Impossible, but you have to look at the ability of your team. The Celtics, Sixers and even Nets are all better teams in the division.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">According to you, a 22-7 record is possible. Nothing Is Impossible, but you have to look at the ability of your team. The Celtics, Sixers and even Nets are all better teams in the division.</div>
It is possible, nothing is impossible just like you said. I didn't say they would go 22-7 I said 22 are very winnable games, while 7 are probably not in our favor. Yes they are better in the division but, is it out of the question to catch up to them? Currently the Knicks are 2 games behind New Jersey. Would that be reasonable to say they can catch up? I think so. I don't see the Knicks being only 5 games behind a playoff spot being unreasonable.

 

[Shapecity]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And they think they will. When told that most people probably didn't think the Knicks had much of a shot at the postseason, Penny Hardaway said: "They shouldn't. It's for us to believe. We have the talent to do it." </div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"We've been through tough times," Tim Thomas said. "At some point, that's got to change." </div>

Source MrJ18, good news is someone else agrees with you, bad news is it's Penny Hardaway & Tim Thomas, the ugly news is the Knicks must win 20 out of 29 games down the stretch.

 

[Mr. J]

I don't know if we'll make the playoffs, but I think if they get motivated they'll be able to. The good news shape, is that we'll have a conditional pick in the draft!