Politics Kavanaugh Confirmation Hearing, now with New allegations! (1 Viewer)

[CupWizier]

I would submit that the analogue to your story is that if you said all those things, and your aunt and uncle said "not only did we never have a farm, but cupwizier never even came to our house." Your rooster story, while believable (I've heard plenty of "mean rooster" stories, including on my at-the-time 2y/o) would be total bullshit.

and in my analogy, if the FBI did an investigation they would easily find some corroborating evidence and it wouldn't be very hard, but with no investigation it becomes a simple he said/ she said.

There have been several red flags with Kavanaugh in my book and first is his opinion that presidents are basically above the law, next, the demeanor he showed in the hearing with emotional outbursts of anger and his continual dodging of answering key questions and finally his obvious prejudice against a party of the United States as he clearly showed bias with his emotional rant about the conspiracy from the democrats as well as the Clintons. All not good traits for a supreme court justice that is suppose to be bipartisan.

 

[CupWizier]

A Washington DC circuit court judge has already ruled that such a test is appropriate when law enforcement is conducting a background check. Who was the judge?

It seems reasonable in this case, but then again it could be a "perjury trap". I also agree with others that say it should be used in any high level government job.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...how many of them are accused of rape like Kavanaugh?...but hey, don't stop there, let's go ahead and include governors, mayors, councilmen, cops, sheriffs, etc., and while you're at it why not also include all regular citizens such as yourself?....yeah, great idea.

Yes. Why not. Let us go down this road. Lets go further, every person accusing someone of sexual assault should be required to take a polygraph.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Let's start with nominees for the U.S. Supreme Court who have credible allegations of sexual attack.

Lets see if the democrats are using this as a delay tactic.

Or if White house staff or the FBI agents are committing treason by sabotaging the president

 

[Sedatedfork]

I found Ford’s testimony compelling. As a lawyer I found Kavanaugh’s testimony ridiculous. He did all of the things we ask clients not to do when they testify. He was combative, evasive, and non responsive. If a judge was the arbiter he would have sustained multiple objections/motions to strike during his testimony. A lawyer would know this. A judge would know this. His disdain and contempt was unbecoming of a candidate for any judgeship, let alone SCOTUS. In contrast, Ford was composed, responsive to questions, calm, and credible. I don’t much care for Kavanaugh based upon what I saw on Thursday. SCOTUS is supposed to be above politics, Kavanaugh showed he is not. I expect that he only endeared himself to Trump and maybe other Republicans. However, I am sure there is a better option on Trump’s list of consevative judges than Kavanaugh. His explanations of Devils Triangle, Ralphing, boofing, etc. lacked credibility, as did his claim he has never drank excessively to the point of blacking out in light of evidence to the contrary. He was testifying under oath and he may not have assaulted Ford, but his testimony was not plausible on these points. In any event, I expect Kavanaugh to be confirmed. I think it is a good thing for all that the FBI probe will occur, regardless of whether anything becomes of it.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think he should take a mollygraph test.

 

[Further]

Another Yale classmate came out today saying Kavanaugh was a big sloppy drunk in college doing beer bongs and dinking to excess. That's not something that bothers me. I enjoyed partying too. But so many Yale classmates coming out like this just proving that he lied under oath repeatedly. It adds credibility to what Ford claimed by making Kavanaugh's word worthless. I don't know if he was a sexual predator but he does lie under oath, that that's more than enough of a reason to keep him off the highest court in the land.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Another Yale classmate came out today saying Kavanaugh was a big sloppy drunk in college doing beer bongs and dinking to excess. That's not something that bothers me. I enjoyed partying too. But so many Yale classmates coming out like this just proving that he lied under oath repeatedly. It adds credibility to what Ford claimed by making Kavanaugh's word worthless. I don't know if he was a sexual predator but he does lie under oath, that that's more than enough of a reason to keep him off the highest court in the land.

You can drink until you are obliterated and not be blackout drunk. I was probably a bigger drinker than kavanaugh and have never blacked out. Some people just don't blackout.

 

[yankeesince59]

Lets see if the democrats are using this as a delay tactic.

Or if White house staff or the FBI agents are committing treason by sabotaging the president

...let's see if the GOP is trying to ram this confirmation through no matter what.

...let's see some proof that WH staff or FBI are committing treason by sabotaging the president.



...troll on.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Kavanaugh was a big sloppy drunk in college doing beer bongs and dinking to excess.

I don't know what dinking is but doing it to excess is disturbing.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...let's see if the GOP is trying to ram this confirmation through no matter what.

...let's see some proof that WH staff or FBI are committing treason by sabotaging the president.



...troll on.

The anonymous NY Times op ed is sufficient to polygraph everyone.

 

[yankeesince59]

Yes. Why not. Let us go down this road. Lets go further, every person accusing someone of sexual assault should be required to take a polygraph.

...first off, it was sarcasm...secondly, if the accused must take a polygraph as you assert, so should the accused. ...derp.


...troll on.

 

[yankeesince59]

The anonymous NY Times op ed is sufficient to polygraph everyone.

...lol...where your "proof"?...where's your "corroboration"?.....derp.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...first off, it was sarcasm...secondly, if the accused must take a polygraph as you assert, so should the accused. ...derp.


...troll on.

Lets make her take one by a mutually agreed upon party then.

I do like the concept of "if I took one, you should too". Works both ways though

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...lol...where your "proof"?...where's your "corroboration"?.....derp.

The NY times Op Ed section. Some one admitted treason. Lets flush em out and deal with them

 

[Further]

I don't know what dinking is but doing it to excess is disturbing.

That’s cause you like drinking to INXS

 

[calvin natt]

He lied - about something stupid like how much of a partier he was
He lost composure
He railed against a political party
And he wants to be on the Supreme Court?
How is this even a possibility?

 

[yankeesince59]

Another Yale classmate came out today saying Kavanaugh was a big sloppy drunk in college doing beer bongs and dinking to excess. That's not something that bothers me. I enjoyed partying too. But so many Yale classmates coming out like this just proving that he lied under oath repeatedly. It adds credibility to what Ford claimed by making Kavanaugh's word worthless. I don't know if he was a sexual predator but he does lie under oath, that that's more than enough of a reason to keep him off the highest court in the land.

...yup, if one part of his story is shown to be false, the rest of his testimony is questioned...and the sexual predator part becomes moot as far as being confirmed...can't have a liar on the SC bench.

 

[yankeesince59]

That’s cause you like drinking to INXS

...really liked that band...couldn't believe it when I heard about Michael Hutchence.

 

[yankeesince59]

He lied - about something stupid like how much of a partier he was
He lost composure
He railed against a political party
And he wants to be on the Supreme Court?
How is this even a possibility?

...yeah, some people choose to totally disregard his attitude/disdain/defiance on Thursdays.

 

[yankeesince59]

The NY times Op Ed section. Some one admitted treason. Lets flush em out and deal with them

...OK and I'll type S L O W L Y this time, "where's your "proof"...do I need to post the definition of the word "proof"?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...OK and I'll type S L O W L Y this time, "where's your "proof"...do I need to post the definition of the word "proof"?

Someone admitted to this behaviour in the Times piece.

 

[yankeesince59]

Lets make her take one by a mutually agreed upon party then.

I do like the concept of "if I took one, you should too". Works both ways though

...oh, so now you're questioning the legitimacy of her polygraph?...seriously?...the GOP was given the opportunity to have the person who gave the polygraph to testify before the committee but they refused to allow that...can't have it both ways...sorry.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...oh, so now you're questioning the legitimacy of her polygraph?...seriously?...the GOP was given the opportunity to have the person who gave the polygraph to testify before the committee but they refused to allow that...can't have it both ways...sorry.

Yes. It should consist of more than two questions.

 

[yankeesince59]

Someone admitted to this behaviour in the Times piece.

...who?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...who?

It was anonymous. Polygraph everyone.

 

[yankeesince59]

Yes. It should consist of more than two questions.

...I was right, you're obviously just trolling and posting inane drivel...should have known better...I'll leave you to converse with yourself.


..."troll on".

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

...I was right, you're obviously just trolling and posting inane drivel...should have known better...I'll leave you to convers with yourself.


..."troll on".

"ok"

 

[Propagandist]

1. Where's the goddamn poll?

2. Of course. And I know one of the baseline question: "Do you like beer?"

 

[BrianFromWA]

I mean, answers.com isn't the normal place for hard-hitting research, but crowdsourcing answers can help when they're corroborated. Here's a question from 8 years ago about polys:

I've been accused of a crime and I suffer severe PTSD caused by the "victim". Will my PTSD regarding the situation cause problems with the test? I also cry without fail whenever the subject is brought up. If I cried during the test would they stop the exam?

Best Answer: Crying can definitely affect the outcome of a polygraph test. Crying will interfere with your normal breathing patterns, which account for two of the four or five channels of physiological information that the polygraph monitors. Interrupted breathing will also have a negative impact on other physiological activity, leading to polygraph charts that are difficult or impossible to accurately interpret.
If you cry uncontrollably, I would advise against taking a polygraph test.
Louis Rovner, Ph.D.
Source(s): PolygraphReality.wordpress.com
PolygraphWest.com

I am a court-certified polygraph expert with nearly 30 years experience. PTSD will not affect your exam, but you should advise your examiner about it before the exam. Crying a tear or two during the exam should not pose a problem, but if it becomes excessive or caused you to move during the exam, the examiner may terminate the test. The polygraph will not assess your charts as "deceptive" simply because of a few tears shed. - Michael Martin (President, Global Polygraph Network)

So, a) "emotionally unstable white privilege" Kavanaugh may not have a great test anyway. Exhibit b) (and it's a meme, I will not vouch for the veracity of the "fact", other than it seems interesting compared with the above PhD's and experts)