Notice Keep CJ

[gmanc]

Whomever mention trading CJ and the 23 This kid is an all star in the making and he showd last year that he has big time game. So why would want to trade him for a guy that has shown you nothing a rookie that might become what CJ already is. think it through. Makes no sine to me moving batum no problem get something for him and do it nowpick for 4th overall must be losing there mind. I dont think other than Russell there is a player in the draft better than CJ.

 

[BonesJones]

Just a tip, don't make a whole new forum post to respond to something in another topic.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Just a tip, don't make a whole new forum post to respond to something in another topic.

Why not? That's how the Trade Batum thread came about and I thought about starting a thread for CJ since he is on so many peoples trade option.

I agree. don't trade him OR Meyers. We don't know their peak yet.

Guys I do not want to see on any type of trade option:

Meyers Leonard
Damian Lillard
CJ McCullom


IF we trade these guys away for what? Proven vets? hmmm how well did the Afflalo trade pan out? Not saying it was bad at the time, but when you trade away guys you don't know the ceiling of, for guys that have a history, but are JUST as capable of flaming out as a prospect....again for what? Less cap room? Trading these guys would mean we would get a larger contract in return undoubtedly, which will hurt our chances of resigning almost everyone. The only way it helps is if we are gutting the team to make cap space and trade for expiring's, but then that's a rebuild and who wouldn't want these three as a core rebuild?

Trading CJ makes no sense to me at all.

 

[BonesJones]

Why not? That's how the Trade Batum thread came about and I thought about starting a thread for CJ since he is on so many peoples trade option.

I agree. don't trade him OR Meyers. We don't know their peak yet.

Guys I do not want to see on any type of trade option:

Meyers Leonard
Damian Lillard
CJ McCullom


IF we trade these guys away for what? Proven vets? hmmm how well did the Afflalo trade pan out? Not saying it was bad at the time, but when you trade away guys you don't know the ceiling of, for guys that have a history, but are JUST as capable of flaming out as a prospect....again for what? Less cap room? Trading these guys would mean we would get a larger contract in return undoubtedly, which will hurt our chances of resigning almost everyone. The only way it helps is if we are gutting the team to make cap space and trade for expiring's, but then that's a rebuild and who wouldn't want these three as a core rebuild?

Trading CJ makes no sense to me at all.

what if we could get an all star for Meyers and CJ? You wouldn't consider that?

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

If CJ+23 got us Russell/Winslow/Hezonja I'd do it as fast as I could. Sorry.. CJ is a nice piece but ultimately is replaceable as a 6th man.

 

[Orion Bailey]

what if we could get an all star for Meyers and CJ? You wouldn't consider that?

Name the all star?

Again, players can fade just as quickly as they can find themselves.
Name an All Star that would be a need for this team that would be worth tossing the only strengths on our bench away? The one thing we need tgo improve upon(Other tham team play on defense and PnR?

There may be quality all stars out there, but would they fit in?

I say no, unless you name the all star and explain why he would be a good fit. Then I might think twice, but as far as I see, there is no one out there that would help this team be a contender next year by trading away our only good bench players.

 

[BonesJones]

It's easier to find bench pices than all stars. There's various tyes of all stars width trading those two for, you said that you didn't want to see them in any trade though

 

[magnifier661]

It's easier to find bench pices than all stars. There's various tyes of all stars width trading those two for, you said that you didn't want to see them in any trade though

Leonard, CJ and #23 for DMC? Not like it could happen, but I would do that in a heart beat

 

[stampedehero]

If CJ+23 got us Russell/Winslow/Hezonja I'd do it as fast as I could. Sorry.. CJ is a nice piece but ultimately is replaceable as a 6th man.

With Affalo as a memory, CJ's role will expand. He did excel in the playoffs.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

With Affalo as a memory, CJ's role will expand. He did excel in the playoffs.

He's still a 6th man. A super sub. He just doesn't have the size to defend guys like Harden or Klay.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Leonard, CJ and #23 for DMC? Not like it could happen, but I would do that in a heart beat

I would literally give any assets or players not named Damian Lillard or Meyers Leonard for Cousins.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Just a tip, don't make a whole new forum post to respond to something in another topic.

LOL!

It's fine.

 

[stampedehero]

He's still a 6th man. A super sub. He just doesn't have the size to defend guys like Harden or Klay.

Could he defend all the other teams? Harden and Clay had the stellar years and in that case the Blazers have to exert their will through another prime player like Dame, LA (if he stays) and Wes (if the body repsonds).

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Could he defend all the other teams? Harden and Clay had the stellar years and in that case the Blazers have to exert their will through another prime player like Dame, LA (if he stays) and Wes (if the body repsonds).

Let's look at nba starting 2 guards that we backcourt of Dame and CJ would struggle with:

Klay
Harden
Butler
Wade
Beal
DeRozan
Oladipo
Johnson

Pretty much any quick or athletic player

 

[Pinwheel1]

Let's look at nba starting 2 guards that we backcourt of Dame and CJ would struggle with:

Klay
Harden
Butler
Wade
Beal
DeRozan
Oladipo
Johnson

Pretty much any quick or athletic player

Playing devil's advocate.........How many of those on that list were kept in check by Wes? Or anyone else we bring in? Wes did a great job on Harden and Harden still ate him up at times. I don't think it is the quicker guards who CJ will have a problem with but the ones who are good at posting up. Klay, Harden, DeRozan (Twice a year) If they are not used to posting up then having them do something they are not comfortable with tends to back fire. Especially since CJ is good at knocking the ball away.

 

[ehizzy3]

I would literally give any assets or players not named Damian Lillard or Meyers Leonard for Cousins.

Meyers Leonard, really? You wouldn't give him up?

Id give up Lillard for him easily and I love dame.

 

[gmanc]

Why not? That's how the Trade Batum thread came about and I thought about starting a thread for CJ since he is on so many peoples trade option.

I agree. don't trade him OR Meyers. We don't know their peak yet.

Guys I do not want to see on any type of trade option:

Meyers Leonard
Damian Lillard
CJ McCullom


IF we trade these guys away for what? Proven vets? hmmm how well did the Afflalo trade pan out? Not saying it was bad at the time, but when you trade away guys you don't know the ceiling of, for guys that have a history, but are JUST as capable of flaming out as a prospect....again for what? Less cap room? Trading these guys would mean we would get a larger contract in return undoubtedly, which will hurt our chances of resigning almost everyone. The only way it helps is if we are gutting the team to make cap space and trade for expiring's, but then that's a rebuild and who wouldn't want these three as a core rebuild?

Trading CJ makes no sense to me at all.

I agree those 3 players are going to be big in our future

 

[gmanc]

Could he defend all the other teams? Harden and Clay had the stellar years and in that case the Blazers have to exert their will through another prime player like Dame, LA (if he stays) and Wes (if the body repsonds).

Maybe not last year but his def. got much better as the season went on. Besides what are you going to get with the 4th pick an unknown player that may or may not be good. In Cj you have an up coming all star.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Welcome to RipCityTwo, gmanc!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Maybe not an all star, but a nice 6th man or emergency starter.

 

[BonesJones]

CJ will be a Jamal Crawford type 15 and 4 guy off the bench. He's not a future all star, but instead a future 6th man of the year candidate.

 

[stampedehero]

Maybe not last year but his def. got much better as the season went on. Besides what are you going to get with the 4th pick an unknown player that may or may not be good. In Cj you have an up coming all star.

+> There was a thread "CJ is horrible". At that time he was. Rookie life. He steady became better and in the playoffs came through. The addition of a rookie to replace that experience is low probability. The addition of a rookie in that position able to steadily improve is improbable. I agree. If he becomes an all star he will need more minutes.

 

[stampedehero]

Let's look at nba starting 2 guards that we backcourt of Dame and CJ would struggle with:

Klay
Harden
Butler
Wade
Beal
DeRozan
Oladipo
Johnson

Pretty much any quick or athletic player

Oh Shit That narrows the field. lol I'll bet he can outplay anyone the Sixers choose to employee

 

[gmanc]

what if we could get an all star for Meyers and CJ? You wouldn't consider that?

Hell no we have 2 all stars in the making. CJ will be a top 10 player and if Meyers continues to grow like he did last year he will be a stud. Jacking up shot from 3 point land like they were lay ups. I think both players have major upside

 

[BonesJones]

Hell no we have 2 all stars in the making. CJ will be a top 10 player and if Meyers continues to grow like he did last year he will be a stud. Jacking up shot from 3 point land like they were lay ups. I think both players have major upside

CJ will be a top 10 player??? Haha I don't even need to argue that. I suppose Plumlee, Vonleh, Crabbe, and half of the league are all stars in the making too?

 

[magnifier661]

CJ will be a top 10 player??? Haha I don't even need to argue that. I suppose Plumlee, Vonleh, Crabbe, and half of the league are all stars in the making too?

I never said CJ will be a top ten player

 

[Draco]

I've been a big CJ fan since before we drafted him. I think him and Dame can share the floor just fine. That wasn't why we lost in the playoffs it was Nic and Rolo poor play along with LaMarcus thumb.

If we keep Wes I expect him to play mostly at SF. Wes has poor handles for a SG so you need a player to prevent constant traps of Damian. Some don't realize Wes was usually playing SF when Nic sat and the other times often guarded the SF when on the court with Nic. CJ will play a lot more point this year when Dame sits and that should be fun too.

 

[BonesJones]

I never said CJ will be a top ten player

sorry, I double quoted.

 

[ChadWick]

Neil has always thought highly of CJ, and clearly still does. He's not going anywhere. If CJ is traded, it's only going to be for a player(s) that literally makes us instant title contenders.

Neil is going after a big time FA alongside LMA, and I'm not sure who. But if we're successful, this will be a very fun and talented team next season.

 

[BonesJones]

I've been a big CJ fan since before we drafted him. I think him and Dame can share the floor just fine. That wasn't why we lost in the playoffs it was Nic and Rolo poor play along with LaMarcus thumb.

If we keep Wes I expect him to play mostly at SF. Wes has poor handles for a SG so you need a player to prevent constant traps of Damian. Some don't realize Wes was usually playing SF when Nic sat and the other times often guarded the SF when on the court with Nic. CJ will play a lot more point this year when Dame sits and that should be fun too.

Playing Wes at SF will make his postups ineffective. He'll be posting up Jeff Greens and Wilson Chandlers instead of JJ Redicks and James Hardens