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Make the pick for the Future.....or trade it for 'now'?

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glazeduck said:
Given that the best player from this class could VERY easily, if not even probably WILL be a 6'4 guard AND that our franchise is famous for missing out on 2 of the all-time greatest players by opting for big men instead... I'm afraid it's not even that easy...
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I should have used green font for easy peasy
 
wizenheimer said:
I should have used green font for easy peasy
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Nah I'm with ya on the sarcasm. Was just making the point that I don't think there's really any amount of filters or guard rails you can put on this class. It would feel weird drafting Ivey with Dame, Ant and Hart, but I could certainly see plenty of logic for it.
 
glazeduck said:
Nah I'm with ya on the sarcasm. Was just making the point that I don't think there's really any amount of filters or guard rails you can put on this class. It would feel weird drafting Ivey with Dame, Ant and Hart, but I could certainly see plenty of logic for it.
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well, if Ivey is as good as his fans claim, I suppose Portland might have to take him. It would really make the team too guard heavy though. Have to more Hart to SF, which is his weaker position IMO. Blazers would have Ivey for 4 years on a cheap rookie deal, so there's roster imbalance but not necessarily cap imbalance

Still, unless Ivey is a locked-in future all-star I'd prefer a prototype wing/stretch-4. Maybe, if the Blazers had say a 2nd pick and some team at 4-7 really really wanted Ivey the Blazers could trade back, still have a top-7 pick and pick up some good future draft assets

maybe...if Portland is one of 2 or 3 teams that jumps ahead of the Pistons....Blazers can swap picks AND grab Grant, still leaving them with two more lottery picks
 
I would think Dame & Chauncey want a front line veteran thats in that 6'8-10" range that can score and play D. Maybe its Grant or maybe someone else, or THE PICK can come in and have immediate impact?
Don't be discouraged though if we package the pick with one of our young guns for that established vet?
 
We’re uber fucked if we don’t land in the top-3 — the dropoff after Chet/Jabari/Banchero is bigger than most think.

It’s a deep draft of solid players but those are the only three with franchise player type of potential.
 
Fez Forthright said:
We’re uber fucked if we don’t land in the top-3 — the dropoff after Chet/Jabari/Banchero is bigger than most think.

It’s a deep draft of solid players but those are the only three with franchise player type of potential.
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When I think of those three and think "Franchise Player" best-case I lose interest in Banchero. When I think best-case for him, I think Carmelo Anthony. A great scorer but not someone who ever led his team anywhere.

I will readily admit, I don't watch a lot of college BBall so my opinion should be taken with a grain (or a handful) of rock salt.

Chet, seems like a the biggest question - could be bust, could be good. Not sure we've ever seen someone with his height/weight combo dominate but I also know guys tend to fill out more once they hit the pros. If we got him, I'd be cautiously optimistic and at the same time, downright scared about his ability to stay healthy and play with the bigger/stronger players in the NBA.
 
#6 is good. Fine, just fine.
The consensus saying Smith, Ivey, Banchero, and Holmgren going in the Top4 leaves ... Keegan Murray (Indy can use a PF who looks like a step-and-a-half up from Harkless and Aminu.), Shaedon Sharpe (wildcard extraordinaire), and Adrian Griffin (like Sharpe, 6'6 swing with wingspan and built).
With Little and Ingles (if Dame likes him that much ... I do) ... then 1 of the 3 makes a deeper, larger line-up that can shoot (unknown on Sharpe). Getting the New Orleans pick at 12 is a good asset (go Big and athletic), but put the money on Grant at forward. I'm interested in watching that kind of team.

Who could fall to 6? Obvious answer: Holmgren. The others falling would surprise. OKC at 4 for the thinnest bigs in the League with Poku? Indiana at 5? Probably. But Portland is perfect for that decision -- whiff on Durant vs. pick a Gonzaga big who impressed N.O. with his passing.
 
Fez Forthright said:
We’re uber fucked if we don’t land in the top-3 — the dropoff after Chet/Jabari/Banchero is bigger than most think.

It’s a deep draft of solid players but those are the only three with franchise player type of potential.
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There's no sure number one in this draft, which means it's possible the best player in 5 years wasn't in the the top 4.
 


The Thunders future looks bright with this guy.

Similar skill set to Holmgren. While obviously Holmgren is much better shotblocker.
 
MickZagger said:


The Thunders future looks bright with this guy.

Similar skill set to Holmgren. While obviously Holmgren is much better shotblocker.
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he’s the guy I wanted before we ended up trading the pick for Roco. Remember people worried about his frame as well. But skills usually win out.
 
Scalma said:
he’s the guy I wanted before we ended up trading the pick for Roco. Remember people worried about his frame as well. But skills usually win out.
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Got his first career triple double today in their win over the suns.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Is Chet going to be available at 6th so the Blazers can take another chance on a 7” big man?
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I said sixth was the goal because you have a legitimate chance to get in the top 3. Steep drop off from 6th to 7th.

nice try at being a smartass tho.
 
GrandpaBlaze said:
When I think of those three and think "Franchise Player" best-case I lose interest in Banchero. When I think best-case for him, I think Carmelo Anthony. A great scorer but not someone who ever led his team anywhere.

I will readily admit, I don't watch a lot of college BBall so my opinion should be taken with a grain (or a handful) of rock salt.

Chet, seems like a the biggest question - could be bust, could be good. Not sure we've ever seen someone with his height/weight combo dominate but I also know guys tend to fill out more once they hit the pros. If we got him, I'd be cautiously optimistic and at the same time, downright scared about his ability to stay healthy and play with the bigger/stronger players in the NBA.
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This is interesting because *most* people think Paolo has the best chance at being a superstar while the other two don’t; notably because neither can create their own shot off the dribble.
 
Fez Forthright said:
We’re uber fucked if we don’t land in the top-3 — the dropoff after Chet/Jabari/Banchero is bigger than most think.

It’s a deep draft of solid players but those are the only three with franchise player type of potential.
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Nah, Shaedon Sharpe. I’m not as interested in Ivey but he’s clearly up there. I’ve got a clear top 5.
 
Looks like we are just about locked into the #6 spot.

We have 2 wins more than the Pacers and they Philly back-to-back and then Brooklyn. Both teams are fighting for Playoff position.
We have 2 less wins than the Kings who finish with the Pelicans, then @ Clippers and @ Suns.

Could the Kings do us a big favor by winning their final home game? Either way, there is room for us to try to get 1 win.....against New Orleans. If not then, the Blazers could reward the home fans with a home win on the final game of the season, and it wouldn't do anything to their Draft position.
 
So is this draft going to be more like the one where we passed over Chris Paul (because of Telfair) or the one where we got the two best players in the draft (by trading Telfair)?
 
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This chart shows the NBA draft odds for all lottery picks. At this point, it looks like the Blazers' best chances are to end up with the 6th seed, with their own pick, and the Pelicans' pick if it falls in the 5-14 range. As the chart shows, the Blazers would have a 37.23% shot at moving up to a 1-4 pick, an 8.62% chance at remaining at the 6th spot, a 50.32% chance of being bumped back to the 7th or 8th pick, and just under a 4% chance of getting pushed back to the 9th or 10th spot (which would truly suck). I've highlighted the 14th seed for the Pelicans, but it could be higher. The Blazers would have a very high chance of retaining that pick, but the Pelicans could get extremely lucky and grab a top 4 seed.
 

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Rastapopoulos said:
So we took Martell and Jarrett Jack with the #3 pick?
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technically, the Blazer drafted Deron Williams at 3 and traded him for Webster at 6 + the 27th pick in that 2005 draft + a lottery protected first in 2006 (Joel Freeland)

they then traded the 27th pick (Lina Kleiza) + rights to Ricky Sanchez to Denver for the 22nd pick, which was Jarret Jack
 
Rastapopoulos said:
So is this draft going to be more like the one where we passed over Chris Paul (because of Telfair) or the one where we got the two best players in the draft (by trading Telfair)?
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good memory. Amazing that we kind of traded worthless Telfair for the chance to draft Roy. But that didn't help us get Aldridge did it? We had to trade another worthless player to move up to get him. Oops, we actually got the #7 and Randy Foye (another worthless player) for Telfair (and Ratliff) who we traded for #6 pick which we added the worthless khyrapa to to get to #4 , LMA. That was such an exciting day, wasn't it?
 
e_blazer said:
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This chart shows the NBA draft odds for all lottery picks. At this point, it looks like the Blazers' best chances are to end up with the 6th seed, with their own pick, and the Pelicans' pick if it falls in the 5-14 range. As the chart shows, the Blazers would have a 37.23% shot at moving up to a 1-4 pick, an 8.62% chance at remaining at the 6th spot, a 50.32% chance of being bumped back to the 7th or 8th pick, and just under a 4% chance of getting pushed back to the 9th or 10th spot (which would truly suck). I've highlighted the 14th seed for the Pelicans, but it could be higher. The Blazers would have a very high chance of retaining that pick, but the Pelicans could get extremely lucky and grab a top 4 seed.
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If the Pels pick conveys it will be no higher than 12 because all four play in teams in the East have already locked up a better record than NOLA. The Spurs, Wizards and Knicks all have harder schedules left than the Pels so I think that the pick is almost a lock to convey at 12 if the Pelicans miss the playoffs, the Knicks might beat the Wizards in their game against each other in which case if the Pels only beat us and the Kings then those two teams end up tied and a coin flip will determine if the Pels pick is 11 or 12.

Edit: I meant it will be no worse than 12 and has very little chance of being better than 11.
 
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wizenheimer said:
I've only seen Holmgren a couple of times, but from what I've seen, I'd say Poku has better foot speed and handles than Chet.
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He's got better foot speed and handles than Nurk and many other 7 footers. I realize he a forward, he's not far from the skills Durant had when he entered the league.
 
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