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Are there any bridges that are designed to take a direct blow from a ship that size?
 
SlyPokerDog said:
There are going to be multiple news stories of how poorly maintained these ships are. How undertrained the crews are. Previous close calls. Etc. There will be congressional hearings but in the end, no meaningful changes will be made.

That's why I made my comment about Boeing. This will take a lot of attention from them.
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That's all very possible, since few ships are US flagged and the countries that do flag them have far less stringent standards than a US flagged ship. But, based on my Navy experience, it isn't uncommon for a ship to suddenly "lose the load". Could have been a bad breaker or any number of things. I was on one of the newest, most well kept ships in the Navy at that time and we lost power more than a few times. The difference is probably in how the crew responds. I'd bet that USN sailors are far more capable than a merchant crew (especially if the crew is made up sailors all speaking different languages). Once was in the middle of a channel we lost the load, with a shitload of families on the dock waiting for us. It was amazing how quickly a motivated crew got us going again and to the dock on time. Judging by how long that ship was adrift, it is likely that the crew had little if a clue as to how to resolve the problem......
 
Seems crazy that a bridge designed for ships to pass under falls like a line of dominos from one end to the other when a single pile/pier is compromised. I’m not an engineer but maybe a better design could be drawn up for it’s replacement.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Easy solution. Put mines around the pillars. No more ships!
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Or mimes.

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I can't find the part in the article that says they closed the bridge.... but here is the headline

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“The safe thing to do is keep the tugs,” Konrad said. “Moving forward, I think that’s going to happen. The Coast Guard is going to say you’ve got to keep the tugs tied up until you pass the bridge.”

Watch ships come and leave our harbor, tugs on both sides and often one in rear. Ties up to push/pull
 
Baltimore bridge collapse: NTSB releases drone video over Francis Scott Key Bridge

 
So this person can post "That's Awesome!" after watching people die and it stays on here, but me reminding him that he is an "idiot" get's taken down? Nice work whoever did that. Maybe he'll find more of his neat videos to share, but maybe they'll be of people dying in tragic accidents? One can hope right.
 
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THE HCP said:
So this asshat can post "That's Awesome!" after watching people die and it stays on here, but me reminding him that he is an "idiot" get's taken down? Nice work whoever did that. Maybe he'll find more of his neat videos to share, but maybe they'll be of people dying in tragic accidents? One can hope right.
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No apostrophe in gets but otherwise correct. Since your word got taken down I will say in more words what you brilliantly summarized.

Road Ratt is not the victim no matter how he pretends. The victims are the people who were killed and to a lesser degree those who lost their livelihood.

Saying you can't control your emotions, well, you can control your typing finger so maybe keep it still.

Yeah, I remember a morning I was feeling good. I had been dealing with a massive personal problem that was finally getting resolved. The A's were leading their division late in the season. Played second place Texas and beat them 10-1. So I was feeling good. On my way to work heard on the radio something that sounded like some terrible accident maybe? A plane hit a building? By the time I arrived at work it was two planes and the chances of that happening accidentally were infinitesimal.

You can probably guess the date. And I am imperfect like everyone else but didn't say awesome and make excuses I was feeling too good to control my emotions. Especially because I wasn't feeling so great any more.
 
crandc said:
No apostrophe in gets but otherwise correct. Since your word got taken down I will say in more words what you brilliantly summarized.

Road Ratt is not the victim no matter how he pretends. The victims are the people who were killed and to a lesser degree those who lost their livelihood.

Saying you can't control your emotions, well, you can control your typing finger so maybe keep it still.

Yeah, I remember a morning I was feeling good. I had been dealing with a massive personal problem that was finally getting resolved. The A's were leading their division late in the season. Played second place Texas and beat them 10-1. So I was feeling good. On my way to work heard on the radio something that sounded like some terrible accident maybe? A plane hit a building? By the time I arrived at work it was two planes and the chances of that happening accidentally were infinitesimal.

You can probably guess the date. And I am imperfect like everyone else but didn't say awesome and make excuses I was feeling too good to control my emotions. Especially because I wasn't feeling so great any more.
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People look for reasons to excuse their behavior, be it "I was drunk" or "I was sick" or "I was high" or "I have a disability". Instead of explaining their behavior, they look for an excuse to get away with acting a certain way and an excuse to *keep* acting that way. These people are really good at copping an attitude about how you react to them too.

I knew someone, who had an intellectual disability, and acted like an asshole. So when people would tell him he's being an asshole, and he'd say "Hey, you can't say that, I have a disability!"

No, his disability isn't why he was being an asshole, that was a choice he made. Now while he didn't necessarily have the skills to deal with certain things, he knew right from wrong. He knew how to appropriately interact with people in his community. But he would make the choice to be an asshole because he was an asshole.

But he wanted to use his disability as an excuse for how he acted, and he wanted to use his disability to be critical of how people responded or interacted with him *when* he was being an asshole.
 
julius said:
People look for reasons to excuse their behavior, be it "I was drunk" or "I was sick" or "I was high" or "I have a disability". Instead of explaining their behavior, they look for an excuse to get away with acting a certain way and an excuse to *keep* acting that way. These people are really good at copping an attitude about how you react to them too.

I knew someone, who had an intellectual disability, and acted like an asshole. So when people would tell him he's being an asshole, and he'd say "Hey, you can't say that, I have a disability!"

No, his disability isn't why he was being an asshole, that was a choice he made. Now while he didn't necessarily have the skills to deal with certain things, he knew right from wrong. He knew how to appropriately interact with people in his community. But he would make the choice to be an asshole because he was an asshole.

But he wanted to use his disability as an excuse for how he acted, and he wanted to use his disability to be critical of how people responded or interacted with him *when* he was being an asshole.
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There was a bee in my helmet.
 
THE HCP said:
So this asshat can post "That's Awesome!" after watching people die and it stays on here, but me reminding him that he is an "idiot" get's taken down? Nice work whoever did that. Maybe he'll find more of his neat videos to share, but maybe they'll be of people dying in tragic accidents? One can hope right.
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It’s amazing how much time people can spend on here and still be completely confused by the most simple and commonly enforced rule.
 
THE HCP said:
So this asshat can post "That's Awesome!" after watching people die and it stays on here, but me reminding him that he is an "idiot" get's taken down? Nice work whoever did that. Maybe he'll find more of his neat videos to share, but maybe they'll be of people dying in tragic accidents? One can hope right.
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"That's awesome!" - Not a personal insult.

"Idiot" - Personal insult.
 
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