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If KG lands with the knicks
i sense chemistry issues
KG+Marbury+Q+Crawford+Curry--can they co-exist?
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">KG's presence won't open up anything for QRich, because QRich is not a 3point shooter. He was forced to be one in Phoenix, but he's at his best inside the post backing smaller players down. He's a less athletic version of CMaggs basically.

I wouldn't just hand the word contenders to the Knicks yet. They definitely make the playoffs, but they might need a season or two develop chemistry and tinker a little more with their bench before they can compete with the elite teams in the East.

Rafy I agree, if the deal was just for KG, then it's bizarre, but if Minny can unload Wally at the same time then the New York deal has more legs to it. Right now Wally's contract prevents the TWolves from entertaining any rebuilding strategies. He's making superstar money, and at best he's a 4th option for a team.

If the TWolves plan to completely rebuild this deal makes the most sense because it saves them the most money and gives them the most financial flexibility to rebuild. Maybe they get lucky and end up with Josh McRoberts or Greg Oden in the draft. If it takes the Knicks giving up a top your rookie, they have Channing Frye available.</div>


Bro, if Q isn't a 3pt shooter then what he is? He has only been to the freethrow line TWICE, all season

Do you even watch the Knicks? That was a pathetic statement, especially against one of the best Knick posters in the forum.

Josh McRoberts = overrated, another David Lee

I wouldn't mind drafting Gay or another SG, but I don't see how we're going to get a lottery pick when it has been traded to Chicago
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting N4S:</div><div class="quote_post">KG is not the best player in the league anymore. Mabury is no where near a star. And if you haven't noticed. Q hasn't did crap for your city.</div>

With a motivation loss like his you wouldn't be the best player anymore either. Still, he's only down about 4 rpg though.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">If KG lands with the knicks
i sense chemistry issues
KG+Marbury+Q+Crawford+Curry--can they co-exist?</div>

Q and Crawford, if they cause any problems, trade them. They're replaceable.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">This move would be great for the knicks. They get rid of 2 bums and get arguably the best player in the league. They certainly will be instant contenders. They would be better than the Pacers, Nets, 76ers etc.</div>

Naw, I'd pick Indiana over this Knicks team. Purely because the core has been playing together a number of years and they're out to prove something since the drama last season.

One more thing: How come everytime the Knicks struggle, rumors of a blockbuster trade like this always surface?
 
Another day, another rumor..

Garnett has veto power over any trade... You keep mentioning Garnett & Marbury. Kevin and Steph left on sort of bitter terms when Steph when to New Jersey... Steph claimed Garnett was taking away from his contract when he signed and wasn't even the best player because he wasn't taking the shots at the end of the game... Garnett fired back claiming he couldn't take the final shots of the game when Steph had the ball.

Do I know their current relationship? No. But as far as fits I thought Garnett in a New York jersey seemed more plausible than all these other "take my bad contract for you huge - yet great KG contract".

But like I said, another day, another team, another "We can get KG..." rumor. Next team please.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Bro, if Q isn't a 3pt shooter then what he is? He has only been to the freethrow line TWICE, all season

Do you even watch the Knicks? That was a pathetic statement, especially against one of the best Knick posters in the forum.

Josh McRoberts = overrated, another David Lee

I wouldn't mind drafting Gay or another SG, but I don't see how we're going to get a lottery pick when it has been traded to Chicago</div>
I watch plenty of basketball, if you go back and read the entire post, I told you exactly what type of player QRich is. He is not a perimeter player, he's a post up player. QRich was a completely different player in college and with the Clippers.

How is Josh McRoberts is overrated? You can't just throw out a blanket statement without any facts. Last time I watched the Knicks, David Lee looked pretty good on the court and was having an impact on the game.

If you want to draft Rudy Gay, you will be in for disappointment. He doesn't have the agressive mentality to be a superstar in the NBA. The Huskies play a very uptempo style of basketball, so a lot of the stats the players put up are inflated.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting purehoops:</div><div class="quote_post">Another day, another rumor..

Garnett has veto power over any trade... You keep mentioning Garnett & Marbury. Kevin and Steph left on sort of bitter terms when Steph when to New Jersey... Steph claimed Garnett was taking away from his contract when he signed and wasn't even the best player because he wasn't taking the shots at the end of the game... Garnett fired back claiming he couldn't take the final shots of the game when Steph had the ball.

Do I know their current relationship? No. But as far as fits I thought Garnett in a New York jersey seemed more plausible than all these other "take my bad contract for you huge - yet great KG contract".

But like I said, another day, another team, another "We can get KG..." rumor. Next team please.</div>

Actually KG no longer has veto powers over any trades. They made a change to his trade kicker in the new CBA agreement.
 
Q Rich isn't a post up player, the only time I saw him get in the post was against Boston, after that he hangs around the perimeter all day, like Tim Thomas, he doesn't move well without the basketball, he's not physical, he's accually as soft as Tim Thomas and reminds me so much of TT

TT had a better post game than Q Rich, by far, I've saw the Knicks last season, every single damn game, and you can't tell me anything else besides that


The man has been to the freethrow line twice all season, how do you explain that as a post player?


How can you explain it when 50% of FG attempts this season are 3pt shots? and he shoots higher 3pt FG than FG, so go figure
 
Just because you haven't seen him post doesn't mean he can't. It's the systems he's been playing in.
 
All of you need to wake up and smell the weed you smokin...this ain't happenin. And let's just say it does for arguments sake. Our payroll will be outrageous (like it's not already). All that for a #4 seed in the east ... tops.
 
Larry Brown's system had Prince in the post too, Richardson is soft, he avoids contact and going to the free throw line, we could of got better for Kurt Thomas
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BigMo763:</div><div class="quote_post">That would be huge for the Knicks if it happened, and will save Isiah's job... that's why as a Sixers fan I hope it doesn't go down.

By the way, didn't Starbury and KG have problems in Minnesota? I'm not really familiar with their relationship in Minnesota.</div>

they were really good friends then when marbury was on the suns he made a comment about amare being better then garnet or somethnig like that and then kg took it offensivly but i think he apoligized
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Larry Brown's system had Prince in the post too, Richardson is soft, he avoids contact and going to the free throw line, we could of got better for Kurt Thomas</div>

he avoids contact? Is that why I've seen him pick up so many defensive charges? Is there anyone on this roster you DO like?

And I doubt Prince would be posting up if Ben had Curry's game. You wanna clog up the lane? When the opportunity has been there the've posted Q up....the problem is it hasn't been used as often as any of us would like. Tell LB that.

Oh and yeah.... Kurt Thomas is averaging a whopping 7 points 5 rebounds this season. Both are playing 10 minutes less than last season.

I'm sure in Phoenix they're asking the same thing "why is Kurt Thomas so useless in life".
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<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Equint77:</div><div class="quote_post">he avoids contact? Is that why I've seen him pick up so many defensive charges? Is there anyone on this roster you DO like?

And I doubt Prince would be posting up if Ben had Curry's game. You wanna clog up the lane? When the opportunity has been there the've posted Q up....the problem is it hasn't been used as often as any of us would like. Tell LB that.

Oh and yeah.... Kurt Thomas is averaging a whopping 7 points 5 rebounds this season. Both are playing 10 minutes less than last season.

I'm sure in Phoenix they're asking the same thing "why is Kurt Thomas so useless in life".
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Did you read? We could of got better for Kurt Thomas, not kept Kurt Thomas, make sense in your post

If you going to tell me Richardson is a rugged non soft player, then you might as well stop following the team, consider you're not understanding whats happending out there, Richardson is completel negative energy

You can't even tell when Richardson is in the game, its basically four on five for the Knicks when Richardson is out there, he doesn't move without the basketball and doesn't create plays


Listen, for you tell me I hate majority of the Knick players is ignorant, you're not being open minded with me, I can see you want to defend our players, bu sometimes there needs to be a sense of reality, and a borderline when defending players goes too far, considering they're hurting the team, and not helping.


What? so I bash two Knicks who have been negative energy all season in Robinson and Richardson now I hate this team?

Great post.
 
that would be great, KG would lift us back to where we belong. NJ is the kind of club with rich history that players of KG's caliber should be.
 
Knickerbockers please!!! you guys know your not getting KG cause hes gonna go to the suckafree BABAY!! dumbass knickerbockers making these false trades BABAY! who wants to play with the knickerbockers anyway BABAY!!! cause i dont BABAY!!!
 
your point guard is a cry baby
your shooting guard thinks about brandy more than basketball
knickerbockers please, who the hell is matt barnes?
your power foward is a old hasbeen, or a homo
and your center looks a shemale, ***, and a wimp...cant take it like a man
Warriors own your ass so knickerbockers please you cant get KG!!! BABAY!!!!!!
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Did you read? We could of got better for Kurt Thomas, not kept Kurt Thomas, make sense in your post

If you going to tell me Richardson is a rugged non soft player, then you might as well stop following the team, consider you're not understanding whats happending out there, Richardson is completel negative energy

You can't even tell when Richardson is in the game, its basically four on five for the Knicks when Richardson is out there, he doesn't move without the basketball and doesn't create plays


Listen, for you tell me I hate majority of the Knick players is ignorant, you're not being open minded with me, I can see you want to defend our players, bu sometimes there needs to be a sense of reality, and a borderline when defending players goes too far, considering they're hurting the team, and not helping.


What? so I bash two Knicks who have been negative energy all season in Robinson and Richardson now I hate this team?

Great post.</div>

you assume teams were kicking down the doors for a 33 year old jumpshooting powerforward... add to the fact he's also undersized. If you can find a better deal.. go take Zeke's job please. For someone so important to Pheonix he's not even starting.

And I don't see what's going on out there? I don't see the rotation not being close to set? I don't see Q struggling to find his place on this team? I don't see the starting line up changing from hour to hour? I don't see a 12 man roster being used nightly with some players getting 5 minutes after playing 30 the game before? With that rollercoaster of a rotation is it any wonder it's hard for anyone on this team outside of steph to find a rhythm?

Q is what he is.. a jump shooter... a scorer... but he needs to find his place on the team... and right now he's ***** out of luck.. but given the way he's played his career so far.. it's only a matter of time.. however.. I'm not out to make threads asking if he's useless in life? Yeah he's a negative energy cause he's not hitting his shots... I'll admit it.. but damn it's still the first month.... not to mention he missed preseason with his hamstring and now his back is bothering him. Maybe I'm giving the guy too much slack.. and if I am than that's my fault.

And I never said HATE.. I asked you is there anyone on this roster YOU DO LIKE... 2 weeks ago you trashed Nate 10 games into his career. What is that? Cause he doesn't play your game? Cause he's an underasized guard? Cause he's not Jarrett Jack?

Figure after that 0 - 5 start the team is 4-3. Steph is still getting used to his new role.... and I'm hoping Brown sees that Steph needs to score more for this team to win... Pass first YES... but I want Steph to take the games over when it's his time.. and I've seen him far too many times this year pass it up cause he wasn't sure what to do.
Everyone's adjusting to their new role, new rotation, new system. That doesn't take a week or a month.. it takes time... especially under Brown and yeah the Knicks have messed up some games early on.. but that's something I knew was gonna happen...

I'm not trying to defend every player simply cause they wear a NY jersey.. but I'm not gonna complain about them 12 games in either. Matt Barnes should never have been a starter... he couldn't hit the side of the moon. I'm not sure what JJ's deal is but he's sitting on 30 million so who am I to hate him. Malik Rose should never EVER EVER take a jumpshot.. not even if he's the only one on the court. David Lee has soft hands.. too soft cause he gets his dunks blocked too damn often. I'd say something about Mo and Penny but they see less PT than I do and I don't even play. Like in all NBA games... seasons tend to balance themselves out over time.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Strengths: Strong Character. Super rebounder. Has a knack for crashing the glass. Good defender. Great strength. Very good athlete. Perimeter game is showing improvement. Will be a solid pro at the least.

Weaknesses: Ball handling, passing and outside J all need to improve.

Now in just his sophomore season, Quentin Richardson has put himself among the truly elite players in college basketball. Making the switch from small forward to shooting guard, (in a move that will help him become a better pro) Quentin has begun to focus on the part of his game that is most lacking, his perimeter skills (shooting and dribbling). His greatest strength is crashing the boards and at 6-6 was among the Nations best in rebounding as a freshman. "Q" as he is nicknamed has great leadership abilities and has the potential to be a superstar on the next level. Quentin's outside shot has shown vast improvement as the season has progressed and he figures to be one of the top picks in the June 2000 draft should he make himself eligible. </div>

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j0se there is a draft profile for QRich when he came out of DePaul. He was never a strong perimeter player and was best on the inside. Just because the Knicks are not using him inside, doesn't mean he can't post up. There's just not much room in there for him to operate when you have Curry down low. The Knicks are trying to force him into a perimeter bomber like the Suns did, but that's really not what QRich is good at. In an article today, Larry Brown addressed the fact he hasn't really had a chance to work with QRich because of all the other players he's had to deal with. Add to the fact he hasn't been very healthy all summer and early on.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Source

j0se there is a draft profile for QRich when he came out of DePaul. He was never a strong perimeter player and was best on the inside. Just because the Knicks are not using him inside, doesn't mean he can't post up. There's just not much room in there for him to operate when you have Curry down low. The Knicks are trying to force him into a perimeter bomber like the Suns did, but that's really not what QRich is good at. In an article today, Larry Brown addressed the fact he hasn't really had a chance to work with QRich because of all the other players he's had to deal with. Add to the fact he hasn't been very healthy all summer and early on.</div>


Who cares? He has never played like that in the NBA, he's been a guy who hangs around the perimeter

Career wise, over 40% of his FG attempts were 3pt shots...this season...its over 50%...

Look, theres alot of guys like that...

Look at Tim Thomas, one of the most talented SF in the NBA, he displays alot of potential in the post, but he doesn't use that ability to excel to the next level, isntead he just stands on a court and is a SPECTATOR and not a player..


Richardson has like Paul Pierce potential, but does it matter when he doesn't take his talents and elevate them a level he can?

That what upsets me with guys like that, most guys in the world don't have this god blessed talent, hanging on the perimeter and watching the offense play without you isn't fair to the people who don't have your talent

Richardson is a good 3pt shooter, but we need more explosiveness and attacking the basket with more agression, please get to the FREE THROW LINE
 
He actually has played like that in the NBA. His game with the Clippers was mostly going to the basket, posting up smaller guards, and rebounding. How do you think he earned that huge contract in the first place? He showed so much promise coming off his stint with the Clips, but, unfortunately, the Suns and Knicks have yet to utilize his strengths, only noticing his ability to shoot the 3 ball.
 
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