Kidd Agent: Trade My Client to a Contender…or Else

[Universe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nothing has changed after Sunday’s victory over the Mavs. In fact, it may have gotten worse. Mitch Lawrence of the Daily News reports that Jeff Schwartz, Jason Kidd’s agent, has given the Nets an ultimatum: if the team trades Kidd to anything but a contender, ”Schwartz will steer other clients away from New Jersey in the future”. The message was clear: No lottery teams need apply for the Nets’ captain. Schwartz represents 15 players, including four All-Stars.</div>

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Looks like no Lamar Odom.

 

[RUstrong]

What a douche..

 

[Chutney]

He's got a gun!

(lol, that thread title cracked me up)

 

[Shapecity]

Owners and GMs aren't going to put up with that type of non-sense from a sports agent. Neither will the players union.

 

[Netsfan318]

or else !!! is this motherfu***r strapped or something !

Bring it little man !!!

 

[Joey FistPump]

Screw that...good thing I'm not the GM.
I'd send him to the Knicks out of spite.

 

[Moo2K4]

This is the kind of crap that I don't like. Agents are so impatient. They of all people should realize trades take time. Maybe when it's the day before the deadline you can start thinking about ultimatums, but there's over a week left. He needs to just shut it before his mouth gets him in trouble.

 

[MFNetsFan]

Threats like that just make the agent and Kidd appear childish.
They both know the Nets will only make a trade in the Nets interest.
I don't see the point in trying to force the issue with antics like that.

 

[bravo369]

if this is true then that agent should never work again. also, why is it that he would be able to make such a threat yet if the owners come out and say they will NEVER sign a player who is represented by a certain agent then it would be considered collusion. Also, if true, the agent is holding his other clients best interest hostage because of a demand by another client. I bet the other clients don't appreciate that too much.

 

[Netsfan318]

all I know is Kiki is from Germany so homey better be careful w/ the threats, plus he's a former baller

 

[jtballa2o1]

Does this guy know who hes messin with?? ROD FU**IN THORN, THATS WHO. This guy sent a pissed Alonzo to a bad Raptor team and got back VC. This guy means business if he cant find a trade to a contender, he cant find one!

 

[Universe]

The thing I don't get is why he is making threats at us. He should make threats to Dallas and others to offer better or you will fail.

 

[Netsfan318]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Feb 11 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Does this guy know who hes messin with?? ROD FU**IN THORN, THATS WHO. This guy sent a pissed Alonzo to a bad Raptor team and got back VC. This guy means business if he cant find a trade to a contender, he cant find one!</div>

this might actually be what Thorn needs, I know when he gets into that thinking chair and starts thinking basketball he becomes and a mad scientist or something. This fool better watchout Zo to the Raptors remember that !, Marbury to the Suns remember that ! you sure you wanna do this Schwartz

 

[go nets]

hes getting paid $20million a year, he will play wherever we send him.

As for you Jeff Schwartz, You'll get nothing and like it!! lol

 

[Chutney]

You gotta pray that you can find a GM as retarded as Babcock, if you're bringing up the 'Zo comparison.

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 11 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Owners and GMs aren't going to put up with that type of non-sense from a sports agent. Neither will the players union.</div>

I'm really confused as to why you believe this does already go on today. This is standard practice and it is this type of power that wins clients for agents.

 

[jtballa2o1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan318 @ Feb 11 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Feb 11 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Does this guy know who hes messin with?? ROD FU**IN THORN, THATS WHO. This guy sent a pissed Alonzo to a bad Raptor team and got back VC. This guy means business if he cant find a trade to a contender, he cant find one!</div>

this might actually be what Thorn needs, I know when he gets into that thinking chair and starts thinking basketball he becomes and a mad scientist or something. This fool better watchout Zo to the Raptors remember that !, Marbury to the Suns remember that ! you sure you wanna do this Schwartz

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im telling you man, Kidd better tell his agent to calm down, he doesn't know what hes getting into.

 

[jirohkanzaki]

Thorn is the king of waiting for the right deal even to the point of missing out on some potentially good ones...some cocky agent will not change that...I hope the right deal that comes is with a rebuilding team so JKidd will fire this agent and make other potential clients wary of his way of doing business...besides he doesn't have lebron james and not many players want to go to NJ anyway so "steering his clients away" is not that much of a threat.

i would rather have jkidd's expiring contract next year and the high pick (if jkidd gets chronic migraine) than get raped on a deal so we can trade for a big man we can put alongside jay-z's close friend lebron james after '09-'10.

 

[Kidd Karma]

Schwartz's first client was Kidd. Joumana actually picked him out. He was working in the entertainment industry....I guess Joumana was looking out for her career. Kidd came in with Aaron Goodwin and Bill Duffy as his agents. I guess since this is Schwartz's first go around at this, he's acting on Kidd's request, rather than at his own initiative.

 

[Dumpy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 11 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 11 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Owners and GMs aren't going to put up with that type of non-sense from a sports agent. Neither will the players union.</div>

I'm really confused as to why you believe this does already go on today. This is standard practice and it is this type of power that wins clients for agents.
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whether it is standard practice or not, by going public with the demand he has opened up a potential can of worms. If he is an attorney, he could potentially be censured or even disbarred. His SOLE interest is to do what is in the interest of his client--not what is in his OWN interest or in the interest of a DIFFERENT client. I am quite confident that he has violated the attorney's code of ethics--assuming he is one, of course. I guess the question is whether he has violated an ethical rule by just making this threat, or if the violation would only come when carrying it out.

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 11 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 11 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 11 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Owners and GMs aren't going to put up with that type of non-sense from a sports agent. Neither will the players union.</div>

I'm really confused as to why you believe this does already go on today. This is standard practice and it is this type of power that wins clients for agents.
</div>

whether it is standard practice or not, by going public with the demand he has opened up a potential can of worms. If he is an attorney, he could potentially be censured or even disbarred. His SOLE interest is to do what is in the interest of his client--not what is in his OWN interest or in the interest of a DIFFERENT client. I am quite confident that he has violated the attorney's code of ethics--assuming he is one, of course. I guess the question is whether he has violated an ethical rule by just making this threat, or if the violation would only come when carrying it out.
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He didn't go public with this as it was Nets sources that leaked this to the media.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nets sources said the message came with the warning that Schwartz will steer other clients away from New Jersey in the future if they try to send Kidd to a lottery team.</div>

You are a lawyer, so I'll trust your judgment on this, but I don't see how leaked information from a biased party could lead to censure.

Thorn is trying to play chicken with Kidd through the media. Kidd wants to be traded so bad that he is trying to force Ratner to say, get rid of him while Thorn is trying to embarrass Kidd and gain the sympathy of the fans when he fails again and doesn't trade Kidd.

 

[Moo2K4]

Why don't the Nets just blow it up like the Heat and Grizzlies? They're clearly going nowhere, so just blow it up, trade away your superstars and start from scratch. They can't get any worse. Plus, what's the point of making the playoffs as the 7 or 8 seed, only to get swept by Detroit or Boston in the first round? If you're going to suck, might as well get a lottery pick out of it instead of another first round exit.

 

[Dumpy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 11 2008, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 11 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 11 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 11 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Owners and GMs aren't going to put up with that type of non-sense from a sports agent. Neither will the players union.</div>

I'm really confused as to why you believe this does already go on today. This is standard practice and it is this type of power that wins clients for agents.
</div>

whether it is standard practice or not, by going public with the demand he has opened up a potential can of worms. If he is an attorney, he could potentially be censured or even disbarred. His SOLE interest is to do what is in the interest of his client--not what is in his OWN interest or in the interest of a DIFFERENT client. I am quite confident that he has violated the attorney's code of ethics--assuming he is one, of course. I guess the question is whether he has violated an ethical rule by just making this threat, or if the violation would only come when carrying it out.
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He didn't go public with this as it was Nets sources that leaked this to the media.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nets sources said the message came with the warning that Schwartz will steer other clients away from New Jersey in the future if they try to send Kidd to a lottery team.</div>

You are a lawyer, so I'll trust your judgment on this, but I don't see how leaked information from a biased party could lead to censure.

Thorn is trying to play chicken with Kidd through the media. Kidd wants to be traded so bad that he is trying to force Ratner to say, get rid of him while Thorn is trying to embarrass Kidd and gain the sympathy of the fans when he fails again and doesn't trade Kidd.
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Like every other lgal issue, I'm sure there is a lot of "it depends" loaded in the answer. However, regardless of whether MAKING the threat was unethical, if actually following through with this threat would be unethical, it would seem to be a potential source of embarassment even to just point that out. I know very little about attorney ethics, partially because there are different, very specific rules that apply to me and people like me.

 

[Kidd Karma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Feb 11 2008, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why don't the Nets just blow it up like the Heat and Grizzlies? They're clearly going nowhere, so just blow it up, trade away your superstars and start from scratch. They can't get any worse. Plus, what's the point of making the playoffs as the 7 or 8 seed, only to get swept by Detroit or Boston in the first round? If you're going to suck, might as well get a lottery pick out of it instead of another first round exit.</div>

Me you and the contractor know this is the best course of action, the guy that counts, doesn't see it. He keeps pridefully quoting the Nets 6 consecutive years of postseason appearances as reason enough to keep the team intact.

Look who got Oden last year. A few lucky drops of a few balls, who knows Beasley or Derrick Rose lands in your lap. These high picks have good value. Boston was able to pluck Ray Allen with what the 6th pick? I mean it's time to sell, sell VC and Kidd. Blow it up, assure yourself of a lottery pick, start over again.

 

[rory]

What free agents has he steered towards the Nets?

 

[Petey]

Here is a list of his clients:

http://hoopshype.com/agents/jeff_schwartz.htm

-Petey

 

[Netted]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Feb 11 2008, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why don't the Nets just blow it up like the Heat and Grizzlies? They're clearly going nowhere, so just blow it up, trade away your superstars and start from scratch. They can't get any worse. Plus, what's the point of making the playoffs as the 7 or 8 seed, only to get swept by Detroit or Boston in the first round? If you're going to suck, might as well get a lottery pick out of it instead of another first round exit.</div>
I don't consider getting Shawn Marion that bad of a blow up. Memphis blew it up and evryone around the league is still scratching their heads on that one.

Memphis has been rebuilding since they were born. Bad franchise with other issues (a sale) at play.

 

[Charles]

I'm sure his other clients are all going to love that there will be at least one less team bidding for their services, ie getting them smaller contracts instead of bigger contracts. That makes a ton of sense.

 

[Netted]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 11 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Here is a list of his clients:

http://hoopshype.com/agents/jeff_schwartz.htm

-Petey</div>
Very interesting. Some of the key players mentioned in trades involving Kidd are Schwartz clients: Odom, Stackhouse, and Jack.

 

[Shapecity]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Feb 11 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ Feb 11 2008, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Owners and GMs aren't going to put up with that type of non-sense from a sports agent. Neither will the players union.</div>

I'm really confused as to why you believe this does already go on today. This is standard practice and it is this type of power that wins clients for agents.
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I haven't seen it done in public before. I'm sure behind the scenes there's a lot of posturing and side deals. I know for a fact those go on, but this is new precedent for an agent to go public and say he'll advise his current and future agents from joining the Nets.

I don't even think Drew Rosenhaus has gone this far yet.