(kind of OT)Do you know better than nate?

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I was just curious to get two REALISTIC answers from every board regular.

1)Are you happy with Nate McMillan, if not, who would you rather have?

2)Are you happy with Kevin Pritchard, if not, who would you rather have?

me:
1) yes

2) yes
 
Yes, I'm happy with Nate. I don't think he's the best coach in the league, but I don't think there is a better coach that is obtainable.

Same with KP.
 
Sadly, if there were better coaches out there than Nate McMillan, the same schmucks wouldn't be hired over and over and over.
 
No for Nate. I am not sure who I'd rather have though. I think he is a great teacher, but a lousy X's and O's or in game coach.

Yes for KP. I think he is a great judge of talent, KP made a big mistake IMO by not trading Raef at the deadline, and not letting Travis and Blake walk was dumb in my eyes, but we will have to wait and see wht happens.
 
I'm satisfied with McMillan as coach and quite happy to have Pritchard as GM.
 
I'm not happy with every move they make, but in general am pleased with what they have done.
 
I think they should both be fired. Only 54 wins and HCA with last year's very young team is simply unacceptable. I mean, Kee-Rist, they play Steve Blake at PG and Travis Outlaw in a key offensive role. Without them, last year's team would have won at least 82 games, easily.
 
Pretty happy with Nate (I'm a bottom line kind of guy, not a "style points" guy), and I think KP is highly skilled at his job and has a nose for the draft, but needs to cut down on the overuse of the words "culture" and "Blakey" and appears to overvalue some of his players.
 
1) yes, just barely. i think nate runs a horribly predictable offense and is slow to make in game adjustments. and i'm not a fan of the way he doles out minutes and plays mind games with players. but, i'm not sure who i would rather have. perhaps someone like adelman or JVG. obviously popovich or jackson or coaches at that level, but that's not realistic. bottom line is, nate's been a coach for a long time in NBA years, and is just now having some moderate success. i need to see him lead a team deep, deep in the playoffs, and look in command the whole time. he's never done that. i need to see him out-coach someone in a big moment with a lot on the line. i'm still waiting.

2) YES! KP is the bomb. but i think he is a victim of his success, and the way he is perceived around the league is starting to keep him from being able to pull off good deals. no one wants to be the next GM to get fleeced by him, so no one deals with us. time will tell if presti or morey or those types are his equal or better.
 
I'm quite happy with KP.

I was somewhat unhappy with how slow Nate changes the playbook until he added the Seven Seconds or Roy wrinkle into the offense near the end of the season, then it seemed to disappear during the playoffs. If we go back to it this season, and keep it around at least somewhat during the playoffs, I'll be quite happy with Nate too, especially if the defense improves as well.
 
Nate was great for the beginning year or 2 because he excels at discipline, but he was an albatross to the team last year costing us several wins and totally blowing our playoff shot. He stifles talented players he dislikes, and he dislikes players who can think on their own. No team ever got a title looking over their shoulder at the coach, and he demands that they do just that. EVERY TRIP DOWN THE COURT. He is unmatched at micro-managing a team. His fear of speed and the occasional TO it brings borders on paranoia. In the end he crushes potential by refusing to let it stretch it's legs and experiment.

KP was great until recently. Now he seems to be turning into Nate's lap dog, giving up on his vision of an uptempo, creative dynasty, instead settling for Nate's snailball 1 and out drill team. This summer has to be viewed as a total meltdown for KP performance-wise. We lost ground rather than gained.

KP's mistake was in not firing Nate and selecting a coach who was on board with the whole build a dynasty from youth idea, and thinking he could change Nate instead. Like the girl who marries a man with faults because she thinks she can change him, these guys need a divorce!

Both may have already shot their wad as far as making our team better.

I'd like the old KP back, or better yet Bob Whitsitt, and Rick Adelman or John Stockton for coach.
 
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MARIS61 said:
Nate was great for the beginning year or 2 because he excels at discipline, but he was an albatross to the team last year costing us several wins and totally blowing our playoff shot. He stifles talented players he dislikes, and he dislikes players who can think on their own. No team ever got a title looking over their shoulder at the coach, and he demands that they do just that. EVERY TRIP DOWN THE COURT. He is unmatched at micro-managing a team. His fear of speed and the occasional TO it brings borders on paranoia. In the end he crushes potential by refusing to let it stretch it's legs and experiment.

KP was great until recently. Now he seems to be turning into Nate's lap dog, giving up on his vision of an uptempo, creative dynasty, instead settling for Nate's snailball 1 and out drill team. This summer has to be viewed as a total meltdown for KP performance-wise. We lost ground rather than gained.

KP's mistake was in not firing Nate and selecting a coach who was on board with the whole build a dynasty from youth idea, and thinking he could change Nate instead. Like the girl who marries a man with faults because she thinks she can change him, these guys need a divorce!

Both may have already shot their wad as far as making our team better.
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All that ramble and you didn't even answer the question!
 
If Jeff Van Gundy was the coach next year with this roster Portland would win the whole thing. Nate will never win squat, and you can take that to the bank. I could coach the blazers just as well as Nate. Ok guys here's the plan. Brandon go get the ball and go to the top of the key then beat your man off the dribble and score. ready 1,2,3 TEAM!
 
PapaG said:
I think they should both be fired. Only 54 wins and HCA with last year's very young team is simply unacceptable. I mean, Kee-Rist, they play Steve Blake at PG and Travis Outlaw in a key offensive role. Without them, last year's team would have won at least 82 games, easily.
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clearly i forgot to put in a no sarcasm stipulation ...:sigh:
 
Yes on KP.

Yes on Nate, but that is subject to change if he doesn't recognize that things have changed, and he needs to adjust.
 
Not sure about Nate, but I'm quite certain I'd be happier if instead of KP I was GM.
The rest of you, maybe not quite so happy.

barfo
 
KP is still the best GM in the league. Just because one writer and one unnamed GM bitched that he his cocky doesn't mean he sucks and we should get rid of him. Christ.

Nate is alright, could be better. I think he's got a different kind of philosophy that most people aren't used to. We just don't know if it's as effective as other different coaching style, like 7 seconds or less. Considering he took the youngest playing rotation in the league to 54 wins in the west and HCA tells me it works, whatever it is.

All you who are calling for his head for daring to start Blake and Pryzbilla, just think about what he did with Nic Batum last year. It doesn't matter who starts, it matters who finishes.

Also: I remember an article last year, I think, about how we were the most efficient team coming out of timeouts. That's all I have to say to those people who say Nate doesn't know how to coach in game. He may not run many plays, but he knows how to set up his guys.
 
yes and yes.

We are very lucky team to have them both.
 
Yes happy with KP

Not that happy with McMillian. I don't think he runs an offense that well, compared to some other coaches.

I'd rather have Adleman or Phil Jackson :D
 
Yes - So far. Nate up to this point has been pretty good and has taught the team well. I am not a big fan of his to date for in-game decisions and rotation decisions, but overall he has been good. From here on out, we need a little less of a teacher and more X's and O's, and I don't know if Nate will be able to do this. One good thing about Nate is he has grown a lot also and does seem to learn over time. He might not adapt as quickly as I would like, but he does not seem to be overly set in his ways. If he continues to learn from his mistakes and gets another ast. coach with some X's and O's experience, he could be very good in the future.

KP - Yes

To tell the truth, I think the team really needs more and better ast. coaching. That would prove more valuable than most other possible moves that could be made.
 
Regarding Nate - I really think we need to wait and see what he can do with a real PG. The next two years should be very, very interesting.
 
KP - yes, despite missteps.
Nate - no. The team has outgrown him, as will become painfully obvious this year, if he fails to adjust the offense around the talent he has.

iWatas
 
Nate: I'm ambivalent. Overall, I'm satisfied with the job Nate has done. I know I don't know better than Nate. The idea is simply absurd. The man has been immersed in the highest level of basketball for several decades. Me: Not so much. But I still disagree with him about certain decisions he's made and about certain tendencies he's shown. I would replace Nate with Van Gundy for this team, in a heart beat. I believe, based on things I've heard Van Gundy say last season about our players, and insights into his philosophy and tactics, that he would get more out of our guys at this stage of the team's evolution. They'd be more fun to watch, too.

KP: More than satisfied. The highest rating possible. (Even though I wish he'd traded RLEC.)
 
Yes X 2.

A few fans around here I could do without.
 
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