Knicks Looking at Eddy Curry

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Bulls' frontcourt could get even more crowded with the addition of restricted free-agent forward Darius Songaila in the next few days.
Such a move would make center Eddy Curry even more expendable. Indications are the New York Knicks still may want to take Curry, a restricted free agent, off the Bulls' hands.
According to published reports, the Knicks continue to monitor the Curry situation closely in hopes they may be able to acquire him before the start of their preseason camp.
While the Knicks recently addressed their need for a big man with the addition of free agent Jerome James, the 7-foot-1, 272-pound James is more of a banger than a scorer. As an established low-post threat, Curry might be an ideal complement for James in the middle.
It's unclear what new Knicks head coach Larry Brown thinks about Curry as a player, but operations chief Isiah Thomas is known to be a Curry supporter. Curry is also close friends with Knicks guard Jamal Crawford, his former Bulls teammate.
Bulls general manager John Paxson did not return phone calls the last two days.</div>
Daily Southtown
I would be glad to take Curry off the Bulls hands. He has that heart condition which reduces his value tremendously. This won?t scare off Isiah, though. He?s been interested in Curry when he first took over the Knicks organization. He even tried to rape the Bulls and offered them Moochie Norris and Shandon Anderson for Curry and Crawford.

At age 23, Curry still has plenty of potential. Not saying he?ll be the next Shaq, but he could become a very good center in the league ? especially in the East. Remember, Curry can also train with Mark Aguirre, too. He already has a good post game; Aguirre will just take his skills to another level.

The only question is what will the Bulls want? It?s not like we can fork over one of our expiring contracts; Curry is too cheap for that. I think the Bulls in return would want one of our young players. It definitely deserves consideration. If we can land Curry this off-season, I think it?ll be one to remember for us.

 

[shankyoass]

Curry would not fit in with Larry Brown's philosophy. Larry Brown is defence 1st, scoring 2nd. Eddy Curry is scoring 1st, defense N/A.

The dude doesnt rebound (his highest average was 6.2RPG) yet he is 6'11". I'm not sure if he is reluctant to rebound, or he just can't, but whatever it is, Larry Brown won't like it.

Jerome James is more a Larry Brown type player, and I'm pretty sure Eddy Curry would not come off the bench. He could assume the role of Rasheed Wallace (who also isn't a very good rebounder), but he is not half the outside threat Sheed is, and also, I highly doubt Curry could play PF.

If this does happen, he would either be traded, or Jerome James would.

 

[PlaTsanity]

Do they even have enough money to sign Curry? Because i think the bulls were putting a bigger offer on the table for curry but only for one year

 

[Miami Flash City]

IMO, Curry would be a huge addition to any team, you dont find centers like that every day.

 

[Buckets]

Malik Rose, Maurice Taylor, two names for you to consider. Jerome James was just signed to a monster deal and you drafted Channing Frye and David Lee, dont forget about Sweetney the guy from Georgetown you drafted 2 years back, What do you do next? Sign another Center! Good job, Isiah, Good job.

PS: I know Sweetney isnt a center but he's a big man and you guys starting talking about putting Curry at PF.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

We should do everything in we can to bring Curry aboard. I dont like Curry much because of his work ethic, weak defense and even worse rebounding but he is still a big body and he can score in the low post. Jerome James has a tendency to get into foul trouble and even if he didnt get into foul trouble he still isnt the scorer Curry is. With Curry and Sweetney playing alongside each other we'll be able to score alot of points in the paint which in turn would make things that much easier for the guys on the perimeter. He isnt a Larry Brown kind of player but the Knicks sorely need size up front. We should do what we can to get Curry-somethint reasonable- and trade Frye. Maybe we can get the Bulls to take Fyre off our hands since the Bulls wont be needing Curry and will probably want a young powerforward as Harrington and Davis wont be playing forever.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[og15]

Where's the money though? I know Eddy has had some complications, but he will probably still get something in the $6.5 mil/year range, the Knicks can't really offer that.

 

[VinKanaddy]

A sign-and-trade works, but the contract has to be over at least 3 years for it to work. I wouldn't wanna give Curry a 3-year guaranteed contract, let alone giving up players for him.

 

[tiny dancer]

@ the title!

The Knicks can look at him all they would like ~ but after reality sets in, theyll go back to setting their sites on gigantic pieces of garbage named Jerome James. I wouldnt let Isiah run a 7-11.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting tiny dancer:</div><div class="quote_post">

@ the title!

The Knicks can look at him all they would like ~ but after reality sets in, theyll go back to setting their sites on gigantic pieces of garbage named Jerome James. I wouldnt let Isiah run a 7-11.</div>

Why cant the Knicks get him? It seems noone wants to take a risk on him. Not even the Hawks were desperate enough to give him long term deal. The Bulls certainly dont need Curry either since they have plently of quality bigs to replace him not to mention the fear that he'll go back to his lazy ways after he gets a fat contract. A sign and trade could work. We might have to throw in some young talent(i.e. Channing Fyre) but the Bulls wont be looking to get equal value for Curry so much as getting something for him. You're right about not letting Isiah Thomas run a 7-11 though.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[Shapecity]

There's nothing wrong with the Knicks inquiring about Eddie Curry. They have the pieces to trade for him, and the Knicks have no qualms about taking risks on players. The Knicks could offer Mike Sweetney and an expiring contract for Curry and Piatkowski. I think a three year deal with team options in year two and three is reasonable. If Curry's health becomes an issue the Knicks would opt out.

 

[Run BJM]

I dont think Songaila's signing would make Eddy Curry expendable at all. I was thinking that they signed Songaila so that they would have a good shooting PF which would force opposing teams to make Curry go one on one with opposing Cs.

Also the Knicks have almost no means of getting Curry. Who could they offer in a sign and trade that would be appealing to Chicago? Jamal Crawford?

 

[Ed!]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Bulls certainly dont need Curry either</div>

It would be quite foolish of Isaiah to try to get Curry after signing Jerome James to such a big deal. However, stranger things have happened, and if Curry has to be dealt I'd rather deal him out of the conference.

 

[VinKanaddy]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">There's nothing wrong with the Knicks inquiring about Eddie Curry. They have the pieces to trade for him, and the Knicks have no qualms about taking risks on players. The Knicks could offer Mike Sweetney and an expiring contract for Curry and Piatkowski. I think a three year deal with team options in year two and three is reasonable. If Curry's health becomes an issue the Knicks would opt out.</div>

Under the new CBA, a sign-and-trade requires the player(s) involved to be signed to a minimum 3-year guaranteed contract with no team options or player options for the second and third years.

 

[bbwAce]

I would think the Knicks can get him if he settles for a one-year over for like 5 million or something...and then they can try and re-sign him next year...but if they do get him, they would have made incredibel strides this offseason...but thats IF they get him because I think he addresses a sore need for them...

 

[adiii]

As a Bulls fan I don't want to see Curry leave, but the Bulls still have enough talent to go far without him for many years to come, it would be nice to see Curry reunited with Crawford who I like a lot.

By the way, Isiah Thomas is the man.

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Eddy Curry's options seem to be dwindling. Short of a team such as the New York Knicks or Los Angeles Lakers throwing caution to the wind for Curry, a restricted free agent whose heart problems have complicated his contract options, it appears he will have to agree to the Bulls' qualifying offer of one year for $5.14 million, plus incentives.</div>
Chicago Sun-Times
Isiah will probably want to work out a sign and trade deal for Curry, but who would you want to give? Sweetney? I know we all like him here, but with the amount of power forwards we have, do you think he'll be necessary? The Bulls would want some young talent for Curry and Sweetney seems like a player they'd want.

 

[Equint77]

well if the Knicks swap Sweetney for Curry.... I'm for it. But not a deal longer than 3 years. It sounds unrealistic cause Curry's gonna want a long term deal.

At first I was hoping Isiah would go after Curry but with the heart problems... I'm not so sure it would even happen... look at the Nets and their inability to sign a player who's capable of passing their phsyical.

I guess at this point Mike for Eddie would be a good risk. Like Crawford I think Larry Brown can turn him around. And if that were to happen he's capable of solid double doubles.

 

[Chutney]

Apparently one of the problems in the contract negotiations between Curry and the Bulls is that they can't get contract insurance for his heart condition. If the Knicks part with one of their young forwards and offer Curry more than one guaranteed year, they'll probably be able to get him. Its risky to offer him more than a year, but Isiah has shown that he's willing to take risks with signings and trades.

If you can get him without giving up too much, I think the Knicks should go for it. Curry, despite his injury concerns, crappy defense, and lack of work ethic, is still better than the majority of the centers in the East. I suppose Brown could play both Curry and James by committee, to see try and get them motivated.

 

[Midnight Green]

I don?t think a Sweetney for Curry deal would be in the best interest of the Bulls. Tyson Chandler is not bulked up enough to play center, and draw double teams in the post. There for he can not start at center not to mention his offensive game most notably his post up game is not very refined. Should we acquire Sweetney he would be to small to play center making him a life time backup to Tyson Chandler. I don?t see the Bulls letting Curry go without acquiring someone who can give them at least some minutes at center. It was also reported in an article today that Paxson has yet to be contacted by any organization interested in a sign and trade for Curry so I don?t see much truth this rumor. In addition to the fact that should they acquire Curry they would have a huge log jam at center. With James ( big money), Frye (lottery pick), and Curry (23 years old).

 

[Equint77]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">I don?t think a Sweetney for Curry deal would be in the best interest of the Bulls. Tyson Chandler is not bulked up enough to play center, and draw double teams in the post. There for he can not start at center not to mention his offensive game most notably his post up game is not very refined. Should we acquire Sweetney he would be to small to play center making him a life time backup to Tyson Chandler. I don?t see the Bulls letting Curry go without acquiring someone who can give them at least some minutes at center. It was also reported in an article today that Paxson has yet to be contacted by any organization interested in a sign and trade for Curry so I don?t see much truth this rumor. In addition to the fact that should they acquire Curry they would have a huge log jam at center. With James ( big money), Frye (lottery pick), and Curry (23 years old).</div>

Not really... You can eventually start Curry, and Frye as Center and PF.. and have james come off the bench subbing for either. I'd think that's a good problem to have.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

I'd rather keep Sweetney than trade him for Curry. I dont mind taking a risk on Curry but giving up Sweetney just isnt smart. Curry is still a big risk. Up until last year(a contract year) he had been a lazy, out of shape bum with a lot of potential but unwilling to put the work in to fully realize it. There is still a pretty good chance that he might return to his lazy ways when he gets a big long term contract. In fact there are some who say that he is out of overweight(again)right now. Then there are his heart issues. Plus the fact that neither he or Fyre or James are good rebounders. I say if we have to give up some young talent for Curry it should be Frye. With James already at the center position he is expendable. If the Bulls want Frye can play either big position and just might actually get some effort out of him which is something they couldnt do with Curry. I dont mind giving Curry a big fat contract but I do mind giving up vital parts for such a risky player.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[PlaTsanity]

Curry to Knicks would be deadly
That would automatically make Knicks a strong team
and a chance to create some fire in the atlantic division

 

[Mr. J]

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Eddy Curry's agent said Saturday he has found a team that is a willing buyer in a sign-and-trade for the Bulls' center. The agent, Leon Rose, declined to name the team, but sources familiar with the negotiations said it was the Knicks.</div>
Chicago Tribune

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Knicks president Isiah Thomas is not giving up on Eddy Curry, even though the Chicago Bulls appear reluctant to trade the restricted free agent center to the Knicks.

Chicago is entertaining sign-and-trade offers from Memphis and Denver but turned down the Knicks' most recent proposal last week, a deal that is believed to have included Michael Sweetney. The 6-11, 285-pound Curry had his fourth season with the Bulls cut short after being diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat on March 30. He missed the last month, including the Bulls' first-round playoff loss to Washington.</div>
New York Daily News
More news on Eddy Curry. Apparently we offered Sweetney in the deal, but they turned it down. I would have a problem giving unloading our expiring contract for Curry though. His heart can't be ensured therefore there's a possibility we'll be in some serious trouble if we give him a long term contract worth that much money. I would really be happy if we got Curry, but only if we get him at a reasonable price.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

As I said before I'm am firmly against trading Sweetney for Curry but I wouldnt mind giving up an expiring contract or two for him. I would even give the Bulls a draft pick along with it-even if were in the lottery again next year Isiah will just mess it up again-but it doesnt seem to matter. The Bulls look like they want to keep him although I dont understand why. We dont really have anything to offer the Bulls other than Sweetney(unless their interesFrye)and they turned him down. So I guess we should just forget about Curry and laugh after when he gets his big fat contract from the Bulls and goes back to his fat, sloppy and chumpish ways.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[bbwAce]

Curry doesnt strike me as a Larry Brown type of player...he's lazy and apathetic at times...plus it seems the Knicks are a perimeter-driven team...Richardson, Marbury, Crawford, Robinson...which means it would seem they'd get big guys who can screen/get some boards and shoot a little...I think Sweetney is a lot more of a Larry Brown player than Curry...sweetney hustles and plays aggressively...I dont know, Curry would help out a little, but not as much as people might think...

 

[Skiptomylue11]

Larry Brown tends to bring out the best of players, and has very tough practices. It would be hard to tell what Curry would be like with LB.

Anyway, who knows what the deal could look like. I think it is better for NY to give up an expiring contract + a pick than to give up Sweetney.

 

[Tribute to H2O]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">Larry Brown tends to bring out the best of players, and has very tough practices. It would be hard to tell what Curry would be like with LB.

Anyway, who knows what the deal could look like. I think it is better for NY to give up an expiring contract + a pick than to give up Sweetney.</div>

That sounds good to me. I'll even be willing to throw Fyre in there as well but I dont think the Bulls would bite on that deal.


Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.

 

[j0se]

We already have post scoring with Sweetney, Curry is just a taller Maurice Taylor, he's not really a productive rebounder/post defender/help defender/shot blocker/ or all around player, basically just a post scorer.

Knicks need a Marcus Camby/Anderson Varejao/Ben Wallace someone who's going to be extremely productive rebounding/shot blocking...because I'm hoping Sweetney will arise and make his name heard all over the NBA, this is his 3rd year, if he doesn't step up now, he'll lose confidence will be just be an inconsistant scrub.

Hopefully Isiah can stop d*ck riding all the players from Chicago and get with the problem here, Knicks are a franchise in desperation, Curry is the last thing we need right now, yeh he's 6"11 270....but he's not physical or is going to be a defensive stopper, and right now on this team, we have zero defensive big men, Rose is old and slow, Jerome James fouls non stop, doesnt play close to 20 minutes a game, non productive, Fyre isn't none to be active in the post, good help defender, but can get molested one on one, and Maurice Taylor, well the name says its all, basically zero defense expected.

Sweetney's defense? Its pretty awful too, makes me crazy sometimes, his defense reminds me of Eddie Casiano, and thats the ultimate diss.

I'm praying Isiah can take his head out of his culo, and mix this team up with some physical hardnose guys in the frontcourt, and some more perimeter defenders, cause the only one we really have is Ariza, and he's pretty raw also.

but lets see what Larry Brown can do, maybe motivate these guys to finally playing D.

 

[Mr. J]

I see what you're saying, Jose, but I think for us to get Curry would be a good move if we trade the right players. Losing Tim Thomas and Penny Hardaway isn't a big blow to the team so if we trade them for Curry, it will be a solid move for us. The thing about Curry that sets him apart from others is in addition to his great post skills, he has the size along with it so he?s more than just a Mo? Taylor. Also, Curry has plenty of potential at only age 23 and if he works hard on his game, he can become a solid 20/10 player in the league. Any center who can do that these days is very valuable. Also with the Knicks perimeter players, having a presence like Curry who can create doubles will spread out the floor. All he needs is effort and if Brown can motivate him and teach him the right way to play, we?ll be legit contenders in the East. This is all one big IF though.

As Tribute said, giving up Sweetney might not be the best move because unlike Curry, we know Sweetney will be working hard on trying to improve his game. If we?re only giving up Penny Hardaway or Tim Thomas ? two players that Curry is better than, than it will be a good trade for us, but if we deal Sweetney, it might not be good for us. We don?t need Curry, but having him will be nice to have and it will bring us so many potential positives and not more negatives than we have now.