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Same old Knicks, so laughable they cannot close out this team at home. Same story every season, blow games against the Heat, blow games and leads against the Pacers, blow games and leads against the Pistons. And all 3 of those teams were inferior to the Knicks, the Pistons are inferior by a good margin IMO and have no experience. Now there is a reasonable shot this goes 7, a series that has no business going the distance, NONE. The Knicks are going to get absolutely rolled by the Celtics in the 2nd round. 5 games, and 2 or 3 of the games won't be close is my call.

This is such a low IQ, lack of attention to detail, no creativity team. If Rose keeps Tibs after yet another 2nd round loss, assuming they get by Detroit, I'll flip out. Another one I nailed, Tibs should have been fired after last season as I said at the time.

You know the old saying, the sum of the team is better than its individual parts, well the Knicks are the 10000000% opposite of that. The sum of the team is much MUCH worse than their individual parts. That's what you get when you have a very poorly coached team, which the Knicks are. I see nothing from this team that illustrates good coaching. Their O is dribbling 300 times, toss-up a shot. They play so reckless with seemingly no plan, strategy, or structure. It is very frustrating how it's been the same theme for 3 years running now, and Rose better fire this guy as soon as the season ends, be it this week, or in 2 weeks. Tibs has been very badly outcoached in this series, no surprise unfortunately.
 
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And good thing they gave up a star package for Bridges. The guy has done sh*t in this series. He was totally worth five 1st round picks. So frustrated with this team. At least I have the Mets.
 
They’re an extremely talented team but something is missing. I think a change in coaching philosophy is definitely necessary if this team wants anything more than a round two.
 
For sure, they do have a lot of talent. The fact they are tooth and nail and going to at least game 6 against the Pistons is a gigantic signal there is something very wrong with the team. This is not the NHL where most series go at least 6. In the NBA there are sweeps and 5 game series all over the place, especially in the 1st round. Think about it, 4 of the 8 series are done in 5 or less, and you could get 1 or 2 more 5 game series tonight.

My take is they have a coach who is simply not up to this level and is incapable of taking teams to the next level. And I also think the Bridges trade was not the right move for a good to very good player, but in addition to that, a player who plays the wrong position. The Knicks need another big, who can do the dirty work, rebound, play D, and be tough. That's how you balance out Towns and Brunson, not with a SG/SF who is solid/good at a few things, but not very good to great at any really. It is not the right fit.

The coach issue they can very easily fix this summer, assuming Rose is paying attention, and I believe he is. The better fit size/toughness issue will be tougher. I think they can do it, but they will take some work by Rose.

The Pistons coach has impressed me this series, and badly outcoached Tibs. The Knicks have 3 of the 4 best players in this series, and homecourt, and are extremely lucky to be up 3-2. If the Knicks were well coached, and played up to their talent level, they would be on a level a little below Boston and OKC, and not too far off of the Cavs. Instead, they are very clearly below those teams, and it really isn't close. They are showing they are maybe only slightly ahead of the Pistons. Meanwhile, the Pacers, Celts, and Cavs all win in 5 or less.

The Knicks can win game 6, wouldn't shock me and would be just like the 1st round last season against Philly, up 3-1, lose game 5 at home, win game 6 on the road. They could also no show and get run out of the building and have to play a do-or-die game 7, that wouldn't shock me either.
 
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From what I’ve seen so far, they have played like crap for 60% of this series. You could actually say that they should be losing this series based on their play. Reminds of that other MSG team in the playoffs lol
 
Stepupstepan said:
From what I’ve seen so far, they have played like crap for 60% of this series. You could actually say that they should be losing this series based on their play. Reminds of that other MSG team in the playoffs lol
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Pretty much. Haven’t played one solid all around game in these five.
 
If they survive the Pistons series, how do you think that will play against the Celts. It won't be pretty.
 
Coach signing his walking papers. Complete choke job. Detroit has outplayed them left and right. A prime example of a lot of talent, but not the right mix. Plus, a coach that is only gonna get you so far.
 
Lucked out on that one. I agree Step. They don’t play a cohesive game. Part coach and part the pieces haven’t fit as expected.
 
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Lucked out on that one. I agree Step. They don’t play a cohesive game. Part coach and part the pieces haven’t fit as expected.
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Agree, it is both, but if I had to put more "blame" in one direction, I think it is more coaching than the players fitting. Yes, they are softer with Towns and Bridges, and yes Bridges really isn't a great fit with the roster makeup, they would be better off trading Bridges for a tough, defensive, rebounding, physical big over Bridges skill, but it is coaching as the # 1 issue to me.

Watch them play, they are a low IQ team. They don't play their bench. They have very little structure, strategy, and seemingly have no plan. Their O is Brunson dribble for 18 seconds, and toss-up a shot, or pass to Towns who tosses up a shot. I think they are an extremely poorly coached team, with no plan.

When they lose in 5 to Boston, Tibs 1000000000000% needs to be fired, and Bridges needs to be traded for a tough defensive big to pair with Towns. Then watch them go next season.
 
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No surprise, the Celtics are a big favorite in the series, and rightfully so IMO:

Boston is a -800 favorite at BetMGM, meaning the Knicks will need several advantageous bounces to fall their way to knock off the league’s reigning champions.

The most likely outcome of the series, according to the bookies, is the Celtics winning in five games, with the gentleman’s sweep having +200 odds.

A four-game ouster registers with +325 odds.


I agree and think Boston wins in 5.

This is a funny line I read (truer words have never been written):

The Knicks have plenty of issues on the offensive side of the ball that coach Tom Thibodeau is unwilling — or unable — to fix.
 
Almost stole one. I dont watch NBA regular season that much anymore but NBA is now basically like a street basketball pickup game. Dribble, dribble, shoot two or three. Or one on one play pretty much 90% of the time.
 
that OT belonged to Bridges. Great win for the Knicks but Boston isnt going to continue missing shots like they did tonight.
 
Bridges is just a such weird player. He does good things but also throws a lot of bricks.
 
Classic playoff win for the Knicks. An incredible comeback considering they missed 14 free throws.
 
Yes, have to tip your cap to the Knicks in this one. They battled back, if nothing else they are a team that never quits and continues to battle. Big win to steal a game on the road.

I agree the Celts won't continue shooting like they did tonight, but I would hope the Knicks don't shoot 14-21 from the FT line (and that's minus Robinson's 3-10). I would also hope they don't get outrebounded by 10 and allow Boston to grab an amazing 19 O bounds. I also think the Knicks should get more from Towns, who was in foul trouble and only played 31 minutes (the team was a +6 with him on the court, he HAS to be smarter out there). To me both teams have things they can do better, including Tatum and Brunson both shooting a bit better. Overall, I think the what can/will each team do better bucket is almost even, maybe a little edge to Boston.

Look, we all said it through the 1st round as well, the Knicks have talent, you cannot deny that. The issue has been as a team; they have not played up to their talent level as often as they should, especially against good teams (and questionable coaching). If the Knicks can play a controlled, smart, defensively focused, high IQ game I think this series can be competitive. They held Boston to 44 points in the 2nd half and OT, and it wasn't all Boston missing shots, the Knicks played very well, and tenaciously, on D.

I'll also say Tibs did a good job with the bench tonight. Robinson and McBride need to each play 20 mpg +/- as they did tonight. You cannot play with 6 men or less, especially against deep Boston, Tibs needs to use at least 7 men.

Bridges is a good well-rounded player, even when he isn't shooting well, he can impact the game on D. The "issue" with him here is the Knicks gave up FIVE 1st round picks for him, he is not a star player worth that package, and he isn't an ideal fit given the other players on the team. But he is a good to very good player, and he can impact the game in multiple ways, which is always a plus.

At the very least, by winning tonight, the Knicks have made it interesting for the next few games. If they can win game 2 or 3, they put some pressure on Boston. Going to be near impossible to win game 2 I'd think, but you give it your best shot. And then hopefully can play well at home and win game 3. If the Knicks can get up 2-1, then you have a series. Right now, you have some mild curiosity to see if this game was a fluke, just like the Cavs getting beaten by the Pacers in game 1.
 
One other thing about the Celts, they live and die by the 3, that's their whole game. This is WAY easier said than done with their talent level and depth of shooters, but if the Knicks can stay home on D and play a smart game, they can make this a tougher series than many, including me, thought.

Again, the Knicks have talent, and they have good defensive players on the wing in OG and Bridges, so they are capable. If Towns can stay on the court, and if by any chance Porzingis is out, that only adds to the potential opportunity.

BTW, love Brunson of course, along with him, OG is my favorite Knick, I am a huge fan of his all-around game.
 
Game two will certainly be interesting. The Knicks missed 14 free throws in game one but the amount of three pointers the Celtics attempted and missed was absurd.
 
Yeah, thats what I was thinking too....60 3pt attempts??? They were also mising a lot of shots right at the rim that are going to go in.
Have to minimize Robinson's minutes if the game is close. Can't allow them to keep putting him on the line.
 
Yeah, but missing 45 isn't going to happen again...taking 60 probably wont happen again either.
 
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