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When will whites, Latinos, and Asians learn to accept this exciting African-American inner-city game? We really need to stop being so judgemental.

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/2011...ng-elex-murphy-hoang-nguyen-dutchtown-murder/

On the blustery morning of April 16, Hoang Nguyen and his wife, Yen, left their Dutchtown apartment to go grocery shopping, a Saturday routine. After bidding goodbye to their 25-year-old son, Kenny, the couple strolled east on Chippewa Street, crossing Spring and Giles avenues, then headed south on Grand Boulevard toward their market.

In the months that preceded the attack on the Nguyens, Elex Murphy (at Valley Springs Youth Ranch) had reinvented himself with falsehoods, telling acquaintances that his mother was dead, that he was from Atlanta and that he attended Washington University.

Hoang, a 72-year-old retired schoolteacher and avid painter, immigrated with his wife to St. Louis three-and-a-half years ago from their native Vietnam. The couple wanted to be closer to their daughter, Lan, who'd married an American and settled in south county. Kenny joined his parents six months later. By now the Nguyens were fixtures in Dutchtown's growing Vietnamese community and active parishioners at Resurrection of Our Lord. Recently Hoang had begun taking English classes at the International Institute of St. Louis nearby.

The Nguyens ticked off the items on their shopping list — fish, vegetables, noodles — filling their pushcart with grocery bags. Security-camera footage shows the diminutive husband embracing a friend at the cash register as his 59-year-old wife laughs nearby.

When the Nguyens left the grocer at about 10:30, they took a shortcut home through the alley that parallels Chippewa to the south. They'd been taking this route for months; though it made Yen nervous, the alley's gradual slope made it easier for her elderly husband to maneuver their pushcart.

Midway down the alley, Nguyen's cart stopped suddenly — seemingly for no reason. "It was like it was a sign saying we shouldn't go that way," Yen says in hindsight. When Hoang got the wheels moving again, they looked up and saw two young men and two young women approaching.

Moments later, one of the men charged.

Hoang stepped in front of his wife to protect her, she recalls. The man grabbed Hoang's jacket as he pleaded for mercy, shouting, "No, no, no!"


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"Jason" considers himself a typical fourteen-year-old. "I got a good family background," he asserts by phone from his mother's house in St. Louis County, on a morning when he decided to skip school after oversleeping.

Jason, who asked RFT to use a pseudonym, recently moved to the county from south city, where he attended Fanning Middle School, near Grand Boulevard and not far from the Nguyen household. It was during his middle-school years that he was introduced to Knockout King.

"I always hit 'em hard," he says. "If you don't hit 'em hard, they don't go far."

Jason is talking about a ritual — those who participate call it a game — that has been adopted by young teens across the St. Louis area. Once an elusive phenomenon that flew under the local radar, the game exploded onto the collective consciousness with the media reports that followed the attack on Hoang Nguyen.

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(without reading the article completely) what the fuck is knockout king?
 
(without reading the article completely) what the fuck is knockout king?
The article is obnoxiously written, I don't blame you. Just punching people for sport.
 
The article is obnoxiously written, I don't blame you. Just punching people for sport.

Running up to old people and trying to knock them out with one punch isn't obnoxious?
 
oh by the way, i slogged my way through that pile of words, and where does it say that only african americans play this little game? i probably missed it, that was like a no vowel scrabble maze leading to the isolated tower of indecipherable speech
 
Running up to old people and trying to knock them out with one punch isn't obnoxious?

I didn't interpret it as old people, but rather the attention-grabber was an old person.
 
I didn't interpret it as old people, but rather the attention-grabber was an old person.

Huh? People are being assaulted. Since when is running up and hitting somebody acceptable?

WTF am I missing here?
 
oh by the way, i slogged my way through that pile of words, and where does it say that only african americans play this little game?


You haven't spent much time in St. Louis, and obviously can't read very well.

i probably missed it, that was like a no vowel scrabble maze leading to the isolated tower of indecipherable speech

I would have thought you'd be used to that, given the consistent structure of your own musings on this board. :)
 
Huh? People are being assaulted. Since when is running up and hitting somebody acceptable?

WTF am I missing here?

In your previous post you said "are running up to old people." I was simply saying that I interpreted it as anyone, (which you should note my first response I said the activity is awful) and that I read it as being just anyone could get punched.
 
In your previous post you said "are running up to old people." I was simply saying that I interpreted it as anyone, (which you should note my first response I said the activity is awful) and that I read it as being just anyone could get punched.

Ah, got it. I thought you meant that the 72 year-old guy was trying to seek attention, instead of the attack on him is what brought attention to this "game".
 
Did you even read the article?
Christ you are ornery.

I was commenting on the fact the author made the reader trudge through about twelve paragraphs before explaining what Knockout King was.
 
You haven't spent much time in St. Louis, and obviously can't read very well.

driven through a couple times cross country, stopped and got a bite to eat, seemed nice enough. theres numerous places neither of us have been, not very relevant.

and no seriously, what did i miss? does it say that in there somewhere? does it say that it is an african american game? i am NOT trying to read that again :)



I would have thought you'd be used to that, given the consistent structure of your own musings on this board. :)

touche' :lol:
 
When I lived in DC, that sort of thing used to be gang initiation. You'd be surrounded by a gang on a street, have your arms held back and the inductee would have to knock you out with one punch. One gang was dumb enough to videotape the event and they were all arrested.
 
Christ you are ornery.

I was commenting on the fact the author made the reader trudge through about twelve paragraphs before explaining what Knockout King was.

Oh. Yes, that was a lot of lead-up. A good writer would have given a quick description of "knock-out" and then go into his/her story.

Sorry. I didn't understand your complaint. I agree with you!
 
we used to drive around downtown portland and grab dudes in the balls as they were crossing the street (we were in a car). funny shit!
 
When I lived in DC, that sort of thing used to be gang initiation. You'd be surrounded by a gang on a street, have your arms held back and the inductee would have to knock you out with one punch. One gang was dumb enough to videotape the event and they were all arrested.

I'm in D.C. right now...... heading out to get some dinner.......... hope I make it back safe FAMS!
 
I'm in D.C. right now...... heading out to get some dinner.......... hope I make it back safe FAMS!

If you want a great burger in a dive bar, check out the Post Pub and order the Diplomat Burger.

You're welcome.
 
Cowards who do that should be put down without a second thought.

They will never be anything but a blight on the Earth.
 

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