Kobe 1 50 point game away from 3rd place

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Most Career 50 Point Games1. Wilt Chamberlin - 1182. Michael Jordan - 313. Elgin Baylor - 174. Kobe Bryant - 165. Rick Barry - 14I'd just like to point out that no one, ever, will catch the Stilt. He has more career 50 point games than 5 through 2 combined.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 20 2007, 03:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chamberlin also has like 30 something 60 point games</div>He averaged 50 points a game one season. The guy was more dominant than anyone else ever.
 
now, im not trying to take anything away from him, but wilt also didnt play against some of the guys other big men have to play today.with that said, he woulda still been dominant.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Punisher @ Mar 20 2007, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If he played today, he would be "just another big man".</div> :LMAO: He'd be just as good as, if not better than, Shaq if he played today. And don't be pullying up "well Shaq is an inch taller and 40 pounds heavier" because Wilt was FAR more athletic. Present me with Hakim, Shaq, Wilt, and Robinson in their primes, I'd take Wilt, then Hakim, then Shaq, then David.
 
Kobe is the best player in the NBA right now, BY FAR.
 
Another 50 point game for #24.And more importantly, another W for the Lakers.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 24 2007, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe still isn't the MVP</div>Using the Twins argument as to why a Yankee/Redsock can't be the MVP... "He's more valuable to his team than ____ is to their team!!"
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 24 2007, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 24 2007, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe still isn't the MVP</div>Using the Twins argument as to why a Yankee/Redsock can't be the MVP... "He's more valuable to his team than ____ is to their team!!"</div>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Nash is better than Kobe. He is more valueable to his team than Kobe. The Lakers have played decent in the few games Kobe has missed. The Suns have played like shit in the few games Nash has missed
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 24 2007, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 24 2007, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 24 2007, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe still isn't the MVP</div>Using the Twins argument as to why a Yankee/Redsock can't be the MVP... "He's more valuable to his team than ____ is to their team!!"</div>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Nash is better than Kobe. He is more valueable to his team than Kobe. The Lakers have played decent in the few games Kobe has missed. The Suns have played like shit in the few games Nash has missed</div>Amare.Marion.Yeah. The Suns are terrible without Nash. If Nash was gone for a whole season, Barbosa would lead the league in 3-pointers as his replacement. Nash is good, but highly overated. The Mavs got better when he left.
 
[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='87852' date='Mar 24 2007, 08:43 PM'][quote name='DevinHester23' post='87849' date='Mar 24 2007, 06:37 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='87844' date='Mar 24 2007, 08:29 PM'][quote name='DevinHester23' post='87820' date='Mar 24 2007, 01:37 PM']Kobe still isn't the MVP[/quote]Using the Twins argument as to why a Yankee/Redsock can't be the MVP... "He's more valuable to his team than ____ is to their team!!"[/quote]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Nash is better than Kobe. He is more valueable to his team than Kobe. The Lakers have played decent in the few games Kobe has missed. The Suns have played like shit in the few games Nash has missed[/quote]Amare.Marion.Yeah. The Suns are terrible without Nash. If Nash was gone for a whole season, Barbosa would lead the league in 3-pointers as his replacement. Nash is good, but highly overated. The Mavs got better when he left.[/quote]And so did Phoenix.
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The Mavs got better b/c Dirk took over, and Devin Harris and Josh Howard emarged. If Dirk could hit his free throws in the clutch, I would have him as my MVP, but Dirk keeps choking in the clutch, so it goes to Nash
 
[quote name='DevinHester23' post='87855' date='Mar 24 2007, 06:45 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='87852' date='Mar 24 2007, 08:43 PM'][quote name='DevinHester23' post='87849' date='Mar 24 2007, 06:37 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='87844' date='Mar 24 2007, 08:29 PM'][quote name='DevinHester23' post='87820' date='Mar 24 2007, 01:37 PM']Kobe still isn't the MVP[/quote]Using the Twins argument as to why a Yankee/Redsock can't be the MVP... "He's more valuable to his team than ____ is to their team!!"[/quote]NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Nash is better than Kobe. He is more valueable to his team than Kobe. The Lakers have played decent in the few games Kobe has missed. The Suns have played like shit in the few games Nash has missed[/quote]Amare.Marion.Yeah. The Suns are terrible without Nash. If Nash was gone for a whole season, Barbosa would lead the league in 3-pointers as his replacement. Nash is good, but highly overated. The Mavs got better when he left.[/quote]And so did Phoenix.
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The Mavs got better b/c Dirk took over, and Devin Harris and Josh Howard emarged. If Dirk could hit his free throws in the clutch, I would have him as my MVP, but Dirk keeps choking in the clutch, so it goes to Nash[/quote]Yeah... Pheonix adding Amare, Bell, and Diaw didn't do anything at all... nope. It was all Nash. I mean, 3 different starters don't make a difference when the little white guy comes in to replace Starbury....
 
And besides, Kobe is a one-man wrecking crew. I suppose Jordan shouldn't have gotten any MVP's, b/c he had Pippen, Rodman, and Grant. Or the Mailman shouldn't have b/c he had Stockton. I've never seen a one-man wrecking crew get the MVP
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 24 2007, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And besides, Kobe is a one-man wrecking crew. I suppose Jordan shouldn't have gotten any MVP's, b/c he had Pippen, Rodman, and Grant. Or the Mailman shouldn't have b/c he had Stockton. I've never seen a one-man wrecking crew get the MVP</div>Thank you for supporting my argument. He's earned the MVP by carrying an otherwise lottery pick team in the Western Conference.And without Jordan, the Bulls would have still been a badass team, but it was Jordan. You know, throwing those 50 point games all the time and always hitting those game winning shots.... just like Kobe is doing now WITHOUT the talented crew... which is even more impressive.And if it were today's NBA back then, people would want Stockton to win MVP over Malone. That's like choosing Nash over Marion.
 
But there is a difference. All these players involved their teammates in the game. Kobe doesn't. That is the main reason why. Jordan involved his team. The Mailman involved his team. Nash and Dirk involve their team. Kobe doesn't, which is why when his teammates get a chance, they do good. Remember the 62 point game?? No assists. The 81 point game?? 2
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 24 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But there is a difference. All these players involved their teammates in the game. Kobe doesn't. That is the main reason why. Jordan involved his team. The Mailman involved his team. Nash and Dirk involve their team. Kobe doesn't, which is why when his teammates get a chance, they do good. Remember the 62 point game?? No assists. The 81 point game?? 2</div>They win when he has these high scoring games. And the games when he has high assists they lose. After he go critisized last year for his high scoring game (61 I think) he had a double digit assist day and the team lost by 20. You can not fault him for using the only strategy that will let them win. Involving Smush and Lamar isn't the same as involving Pippen and Marion.
 
Chamberlain's records are so gay. They shouldn't evne count them. They had totally different rules than they do now...
 
I agree, 100 points? The only way anyone in the NBA in this era could get that is if they had 3-4 Overtimes.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MLibid @ Mar 24 2007, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chamberlain's records are so gay. They shouldn't evne count them. They had totally different rules than they do now...</div>Not really they didn't. What different rules? Shot clock? Wait... that increases scoring.....And even so, you don't take away Ruth's records, you wait until someone beats them! You don't drop Jim Brown's rushing record, you wait until someone beats it.You're just pissed because it's not likely anyone will ever dominate like that again. Sorry. But that's no reason to essentially strip the record from him. That's like stripping Johnny U's name from the NFL record books.
 
You wanna know why Kobe has to score a butt load of points? Because his supporting cast doesn't step up. If you watch the games you hear the commentators make comments about how the rest of the team is missing shots.So Kobe takes over games and gets the Lakers some Ws.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TCOF @ Mar 24 2007, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You wanna know why Kobe has to score a butt load of points? Because his supporting cast doesn't step up. If you watch the games you hear the commentators make comments about how the rest of the team is missing shots.So Kobe takes over games and gets the Lakers some Ws.</div> :yeahthat:
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (TCOF @ Mar 24 2007, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You wanna know why Kobe has to score a butt load of points? Because his supporting cast doesn't step up. If you watch the games you hear the commentators make comments about how the rest of the team is missing shots.So Kobe takes over games and gets the Lakers some Ws.</div>Still doesn't mean he's the MVP.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Knightz @ Mar 24 2007, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I agree, 100 points? The only way anyone in the NBA in this era could get that is if they had 3-4 Overtimes.</div>wilt was fed the ball all game. And when he got 100, there was about 1 minute left and the game was called. You could also have 100 if you cherry-pick while the rest of the team played d and got you the ball.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 24 2007, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 24 2007, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But there is a difference. All these players involved their teammates in the game. Kobe doesn't. That is the main reason why. Jordan involved his team. The Mailman involved his team. Nash and Dirk involve their team. Kobe doesn't, which is why when his teammates get a chance, they do good. Remember the 62 point game?? No assists. The 81 point game?? 2</div>They win when he has these high scoring games. And the games when he has high assists they lose. After he go critisized last year for his high scoring game (61 I think) he had a double digit assist day and the team lost by 20. You can not fault him for using the only strategy that will let them win. Involving Smush and Lamar isn't the same as involving Pippen and Marion.</div>But then why do the Lakers play good w/o him and the Suns play like shit w/o Nash? I've seen the Lakers play perfectly good when Kobe is on the bench. When Nash rests, I don't see the Suns playing very good. I was at the Bulls-Suns game in January, Nash sat on the bench for 5 minutes of game play, the Bulls opened a 16-point lead with about 9 minutes to play in the game. Nash he comes in, with 2 minutes to play, the deficit is 9. Suns end up winning. Nash is like the quarterback of the Suns.
 

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