Kobe: U.S. citizenship should be revoked without gold medal

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I don't get it. Kobe wants to win and thinks his team should win. If they don't put in the effort to win, they should be ashamed of themselves.

I don't like Kobe, but I don't get what's wrong with his mindset on this.
 
The current Olympic team would get fucking smoked by the original Dream Team.
 
hating america has been far out since the 60s man

I know. I'm rooting for Greece. It is so much cooler to hate America and root for countries that suck at just attempting to exist. Then I can ride around on my fixie with my shoulder bag and ironically thick rimmed glasses with no lenses.
 
He also said that they could be the dream team, before...they've even won a game. Putting way too much pressure and if they lose its going to be pretty funny now. I mean do you think any of the dream team I guys would try to motivate the team this way? Jordan would just say "Just fucking win" or something like that, not this "we can beat the dream team" or "we shouldn't be US citizens if we lose" crap.
 
I don't get it. Kobe wants to win and thinks his team should win. If they don't put in the effort to win, they should be ashamed of themselves.

I don't like Kobe, but I don't get what's wrong with his mindset on this.

Agree! This is why Kobe is such a beast on the court. His desire to win is far greater than the average NBA player.

The current Olympic team would get fucking smoked by the original Dream Team.

I disagree. I think Lebron, Durant, and Westbrook would kick some ass. As that article I posted said, today's NBA players have evolved into superior athletes over players of the past.
 
Dream team don't got no size on the blocks. Gasol bros going to be doin' work!
 
I know. I'm rooting for Greece. It is so much cooler to hate America and root for countries that suck at just attempting to exist. Then I can ride around on my fixie with my shoulder bag and ironically thick rimmed glasses with no lenses.

damn kids with their newfangled fixies! get a backpack like a real american and get off my lawn!

what, has hating goth kids died out for the lily white already? :lol:
 
Agree! This is why Kobe is such a beast on the court. His desire to win is far greater than the average NBA player.



I disagree. I think Lebron, Durant, and Westbrook would kick some ass. As that article I posted said, today's NBA players have evolved into superior athletes over players of the past.

No way BB.

Do you remember who was on the original Dream Team? It was a fuckin HOF team.

Jordan
Barkley
Bird
Magic
Stockton
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Scottie Pippen
Clyde
Chris Mullin

They would dominate, especially in FIBA ball because Durant, LeBron, and CP3 are used to getting superstar calls in the NBA.
 
He also said that they could be the dream team, before...they've even won a game. Putting way too much pressure and if they lose its going to be pretty funny now. I mean do you think any of the dream team I guys would try to motivate the team this way? Jordan would just say "Just fucking win" or something like that, not this "we can beat the dream team" or "we shouldn't be US citizens if we lose" crap.

Yeah, the beating the Original Dream Team comment was lame. But that was a different topic. This was about winning the gold.

(My opinion is that the Original Dream Team would handily beat the current squad)
 
No way BB.

Do you remember who was on the original Dream Team? It was a fuckin HOF team.

Jordan
Barkley
Bird
Magic
Stockton
David Robinson
Patrick Ewing
Scottie Pippen
Clyde
Chris Mullin

They would dominate, especially in FIBA ball because Durant, LeBron, and CP3 are used to getting superstar calls in the NBA.

some of those guys were passed their prime, like Kobe is now. Just saying.
 
Jordan > LeBron
Barkley > Kevin Love
Bird > Durant
Magic > Deron Williams
Stockton > CP3
David Robinson > Tyson Chandler
Patrick Ewing > Anthony Davis
Scottie Pippen > Iggy
Clyde = Kobe (current Kobe compared to young Clyde)
Chris Mullin = Melo
 
Yeah, the beating the Original Dream Team comment was lame. But that was a different topic. This was about winning the gold.

(My opinion is that the Original Dream Team would handily beat the current squad)

Yeah, they should. But putting that much pressure can often backfire. You can't motivate employees by saying "if we don't beat these numbers, you'll all be fired". not the sign of great leadership.
 
some of those guys were passed their prime, like Kobe is now. Just saying.

Most of them were in their prime. Jordan, Barkley, Clyde, Stockton, Ewing, Robinson, Pippen... the only guys who were getting up there in age were Bird and Magic, and they were still great players at that time. It was only 1992.
 
A starting lineup of

Jordan
Stockton
Pippen
Barkley
Robinson would CRUSH

LeBron
Durant
CP3
Kevin Love
Tyson Chandler
 
Yeah, they should. But putting that much pressure can often backfire. You can't motivate employees by saying "if we don't beat these numbers, you'll all be fired". not the sign of great leadership.

Meh. I don't think it is valid to compare professionals, who are supposed to be the most dominate in the game with the mental toughness to match, to some pee-on employees on the factory floor. If his teammates can't handle those comments, they shouldn't be on what is supposed to be the best team in the world.
 
So with the US not making it to olympics in soccer, are those "douchebags" allowed to cheer for another team?

Those douchebags are already cheering for another team. Olympic soccer is a joke. Its a U23 tournaments with 3 roster exceptions. David Stern is trying to do this same thing witht he Mens Bball Olympic team. Make it U23 and the start a "World Cup of Basketball" tournament for the senior circuit, so that NBA owners and the NBA can make money off of it.

When it comes to INTERNATIONAL competition, I see no way possible to support any country outer than YOUR country. Its one thing to respect other countries teams and their talents, but to support them like they are your country... shameful. I think there is a lot of pride lost in the country, which is sad.

To the crowd that is from/ has roots in another country and uses that as an excuse to support them, yet are US Citizens, disgusting. If your homeland is so great, please do us all a favor and move back. There is a reason you are living in the states and not there. Show some respect to the country that has given you and so many other such great opportunities.

This is something I feel strongly about, sorry if it comes of douchy or elitist.
 
Meh. I don't think it is valid to compare professionals, who are supposed to be the most dominate in the game with the mental toughness to match, to some pee-on employees on the factory floor. If his teammates can't handle those comments, they shouldn't be on what is supposed to be the best team in the world.

ok fine, say a team of managers is having a meeting then. the director tells them "ok guys, we need to sell "X" or you're all going to be fired".

again, its terrible leadership.

you don't motivate people through the use of humiliation or penalty. show me any scenario or example where this is considered being a good method or commendable leadership. its strange and weird and often doesn't work.
 
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Those douchebags are already cheering for another team. Olympic soccer is a joke. Its a U23 tournaments with 3 roster exceptions. David Stern is trying to do this same thing witht he Mens Bball Olympic team. Make it U23 and the start a "World Cup of Basketball" tournament for the senior circuit, so that NBA owners and the NBA can make money off of it.

When it comes to INTERNATIONAL competition, I see no way possible to support any country outer than YOUR country. Its one thing to respect other countries teams and their talents, but to support them like they are your country... shameful. I think there is a lot of pride lost in the country, which is sad.

To the crowd that is from/ has roots in another country and uses that as an excuse to support them, yet are US Citizens, disgusting. If your homeland is so great, please do us all a favor and move back. There is a reason you are living in the states and not there. Show some respect to the country that has given you and so many other such great opportunities.

This is something I feel strongly about, sorry if it comes of douchy or elitist.

or rednecky.
 
ok fine, say a team of managers is having a meeting then. the director tells them "ok guys, we need to sell "X" or you're all going to be fired".

again, its terrible leadership.

you don't motivate people through the use of humiliation or penalty. show me any scenario or example where this is considered being a good method or commendable leadership. its strange and weird and often doesn't work.

This isn't your local MacDonalds. If his teammates can't handle those comments, they shouldn't be at this level of basketball.
 
This isn't your local MacDonalds. If his teammates can't handle those comments, they shouldn't be at this level of basketball.

I'm talking about anywhere at any level. Threats of humiliation and disgrace as a motivational tool? Yeah. not good leadership. ESPECIALLY at this level. It should be understood what the goal is, no need to do this.
 
I'm talking about anywhere at any level. Threats of humiliation and disgrace as a motivational tool? Yeah. not good leadership. ESPECIALLY at this level. It should be understood what the goal is, no need to do this.

Meh. If I'm on a competitive team and my teammate says this, I wouldn't go pout and cry. It's a grown man's sport.
 

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