Kobe with another game winning 3.

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He didn't flop. He's a 170 lb with no upper body strength. He simply got owned by pick from a stronger player who outweighs him by 50 lbs.

Technically, he got owned by a moving pick, which is illegal. That's if you are going by the rules. Had it been a legitimate pick, Kobe's feet wouldn't have moved forward after contact with Sergio.
 
What's significant here is that the Kings were without their top two scorers and the Lakers needed a buzzer shot to beat them at home.

Fear the Kings. They're for real.
 
Do you really think he flopped Nik? Kobe outweighs him by at least 50 lbs, and I don't think Sergio can bench press his weight.

I used to play at an athletic club where Kenny Carr played (remember him?) One time I was chasing the guy I was guarding who was curling towards the wing, when I ran smack dab into a Kenny Carr Pick. I'm 6'1 and was probably 200 lbs at the time. Kenny was probably 260. I went ass-over-tea-kettle for about a half a block. It wasn't a flop.

Absolutely. There was a better angle during the game that showed the two of them side on. Kobe definitely gave a little push, but Sergio immediately threw both arms in the air and took multiple steps backward flailing. I'm not even saying it wasn't an offensive foul, I'm just saying he needed to be smarter about not trying to go for the sell in a critical last second situation ... especially against the league's golden boy Kobe.
 
What's significant here is that the Kings were without their top two scorers and the Lakers needed a buzzer shot to beat them at home.

Exactly.

Fear the Kings. They're for real.

Erm, that's not the message I took out of this. It's that the Lakers are really sucking right now. And part of it is Kobe shooting way too much.
 
Kobe needs to pace himself. He won't have any game winners left for the post season at this rate (Hey, it's the only hope I can think of to cling to. Unless you count hoping he gets injured. But one with good sportsmanship would never wish such a thing, would they?)

He's always good in close games. That's why the Celtics completely destroyed the Lakers in the finals, just to make sure.

And don't wish for Kobe to get injured - I actually think the Lakers would be better off without him right now. They might actually get Bynum and Gasol going at the same time, which has essentially never happened. Right now Kobe is their Kevin Martin.
 
And don't wish for Kobe to get injured - I actually think the Lakers would be better off without him right now. They might actually get Bynum and Gasol going at the same time, which has essentially never happened. Right now Kobe is their Kevin Martin.

wow on several things
 
He's always good in close games. That's why the Celtics completely destroyed the Lakers in the finals, just to make sure.

And don't wish for Kobe to get injured - I actually think the Lakers would be better off without him right now. They might actually get Bynum and Gasol going at the same time, which has essentially never happened. Right now Kobe is their Kevin Martin.

You are not going to find many people to side with you here. The Lakers would be better off w/o Kobe? A back court of D-Fish & ??? (Shannon Brown? Jordan Farmar?) would be brutal enough to offset the front court of Odom/Gasol/Bynum. They still make the playoffs, but they aren't a 65+ win "see you in the finals" type of team.
 
Exactly.



Erm, that's not the message I took out of this. It's that the Lakers are really sucking right now. And part of it is Kobe shooting way too much.

Actually, no.

It's because Ron Artest is out, our defense has gone to shit, and Bynum and Gasol have no chemistry together.
 
He's always good in close games. That's why the Celtics completely destroyed the Lakers in the finals, just to make sure.

And don't wish for Kobe to get injured - I actually think the Lakers would be better off without him right now. They might actually get Bynum and Gasol going at the same time, which has essentially never happened. Right now Kobe is their Kevin Martin.

You know, I just said that deception might be the biggest idiot on this board, and then I read this post.
 
You are not going to find many people to side with you here. The Lakers would be better off w/o Kobe? A back court of D-Fish & ??? (Shannon Brown? Jordan Farmar?) would be brutal enough to offset the front court of Odom/Gasol/Bynum. They still make the playoffs, but they aren't a 65+ win "see you in the finals" type of team.

Note that I said "right now". For the past few games, Bryant has been shooting way too much and their bigs way too little. They have no offensive chemistry, and while Bryant is there to lean on, they're unlikely to develop it.

BUT: remember when Jordan retired the first time? And was replaced by (drum roll) Pete Myers (who had never played in the NBA and wasn't even on anybody's radar, making him arguably worse than Shannon Brown)? Remind me again how many more games the Bulls lost. I think Phil Jackson would secretly relish the chance to show Kobe that it's not all about him, and that there's a reason he has ten rings.
 
Note that I said "right now". For the past few games, Bryant has been shooting way too much and their bigs way too little. They have no offensive chemistry, and while Bryant is there to lean on, they're unlikely to develop it.

BUT: remember when Jordan retired the first time? And was replaced by (drum roll) Pete Myers (who had never played in the NBA and wasn't even on anybody's radar, making him arguably worse than Shannon Brown)? Remind me again how many more games the Bulls lost. I think Phil Jackson would secretly relish the chance to show Kobe that it's not all about him, and that there's a reason he has ten rings.

Duly noted.

Wow, I forgot all about Pistol Pete Myers. LOL.
 
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