Koufos, More Bigs Jersey Bound

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>Kosta Koufos will join several other big men working out for the Nets in the next couple of weeks. Koufos, who may be the tallest player in the draft at 7′-1 1/2″, is on the Nets’ workout schedule along with DeAndre Jordan, Anthony Randolph, Jason Thompson and Donte Green. All are 6′-10″ or taller. Koufos has reportedly surprised teams with his athleticism.</div>

Kosta Koufos making an impression in private NBA workouts - Todd Porter - Canton Repository

IMO Koufos shoulda stayed in school. He's pretty good, but he needed to stay in college to refine his game. This highest I could see him going is 20.

I'm sort of excited to see how Donte matches up against Randolph.

 

[cpawfan]

Skilled finesse big men don't get better in college

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Skilled finesse big men don't get better in college</div>

Then Koufos is gonna suck in the NBA

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 7 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Skilled finesse big men don't get better in college</div>

Then Koufos is gonna suck in the NBA
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Why? He played out of position, in a grind it out conference and on a meh team.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 7 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Skilled finesse big men don't get better in college</div>

Then Koufos is gonna suck in the NBA
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Why? He played out of position, in a grind it out conference and on a meh team.
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Personally, I don't think he played all that impressive. Sure, it was a grind it out conference, but he didn't really play that way

 

[cpawfan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 7 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 7 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Skilled finesse big men don't get better in college</div>

Then Koufos is gonna suck in the NBA
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Why? He played out of position, in a grind it out conference and on a meh team.
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Personally, I don't think he played all that impressive. Sure, it was a grind it out conference, but he didn't really play that way
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I see you like making my points for me. You have to look past college (for which he was a poor fit) and see how he projects in the pros. There was nothing about his situation in college that was directly comparable to what he'll do in the NBA.

I'm not saying he is going to be a star and far be it from me to hype up someone from o$u, but he is a natural PF who needs to play against other big men so that he can develop.

 

[Cmoney707]

he definitely played like garbage last year, but as cpaw said they were making him play the exact opposite style of his game. The NBA is where this kid belongs.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 7 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 7 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 7 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Skilled finesse big men don't get better in college</div>

Then Koufos is gonna suck in the NBA
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Why? He played out of position, in a grind it out conference and on a meh team.
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Personally, I don't think he played all that impressive. Sure, it was a grind it out conference, but he didn't really play that way
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I see you like making my points for me. You have to look past college (for which he was a poor fit) and see how he projects in the pros. There was nothing about his situation in college that was directly comparable to what he'll do in the NBA.

I'm not saying he is going to be a star and far be it from me to hype up someone from o$u, but he is a natural PF who needs to play against other big men so that he can develop.
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Well, what I was actually saying was that he's just not ready for the NBA just yet. He's about to get abused. I think he shoulda stayed in college to muscle up and toughen up a bit.

 

[User01]

I think he'd be a steal at 21, he is the second youngest kid in the draft I believe. If we wind up taking a wing somehow with our first pick (basically, if Gallinari or Gordon falls to us), then he and Hibbert would be the guys I'd look at the most, after Beasley and Love I think they'll be the best post options in the draft.

 

[Mr. Boe]

I don't think Donte Green is any good at all. Apologies to Syracuse fans.

Randolph will have an easy time with Green. Randolph needs stiffer competition than that for proper evaluation.

As for Koufos, Hibbert and others like them in the draft, they need thorough and proper evaluation to be sure that you don't need to draft them as high as 10 or as low as 40. That's why Thorndeweghe are paid what they are.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think Donte Green is any good at all. Apologies to Syracuse fans.

Randolph will have an easy time with Green. Randolph needs stiffer competition than that for proper evaluation.

As for Koufos, Hibbert and others like them in the draft, they need thorough and proper evaluation to be sure that you don't need to draft them as high as 10 or as low as 40. That's why Thorndeweghe are paid what they are.</div>

If you don't mind me asking, why not?

 

[Mr. Boe]

After much thought, I've concluded that Donte Green will have a hard time sticking in the NBA. He's not NBA material - unlike 'Melo. If I'm wrong, sue me!

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>After much thought, I've concluded that Donte Green will have a hard time sticking in the NBA. He's not NBA material - unlike 'Melo. If I'm wrong, sue me!</div>

Not saying you're wrong, I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from with these statements.


What differs him from, say, Rashard Lewis when he was drafted?

 

[Mr. Boe]

Well, if you think he's another Rashard Lewis, then you ought to draft him for the Magic. Otis Smith gave Lewis 120 million reasons to win for him. How many rings did Lewis bring to the Magic?

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, if you think he's another Rashard Lewis, then you ought to draft him for the Magic. Otis Smith gave Lewis $120 million. How many rings did Lewis bring to the Magic?</div>

Wow.

What an irrelevant reply.

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, if you think he's another Rashard Lewis, then you ought to draft him for the Magic. Otis Smith gave Lewis $120 million. How many rings did Lewis bring to the Magic?</div>
I think we should all judge signings and trades by the amount of championships they win in the first year!
Either Pau Gasol or Kevin Garnett suck. Unlike Jacque Vaughn.

 

[Mr. Boe]

Lewis is like Tim Thomas is like Green. My evaluation of Green is that his career will follow the same pattern.

Better talent is available to the Nets. Why squander a pick?

 

[Mr. Boe]

You never drafted Bob Lanier or Lew Alcindor, did you?

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 03:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lewis is like Tim Thomas is like Green. My evaluation of Green is that his career will follow the same pattern.

Better talent is available to the Nets. Why squander a pick?</div>

I'm not advocating Greene getting drafted by the Nets, I'm merely trying to figure out why you seem to think that he's a total bust.

BTW, Lewis is nothing like Tim Thomas, not even close.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jun 9 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Dude learn to stop running your mouth when you have no clue what you are talking about.</div>

No, he can continue to talk, it's his freedom anyways. It's not that he doesn't know what he's talking about, it's just that he's conveying his opinions in a way different than anyone here understands. Which is why I'm trying to get a clear answer.

 

[Mr. Boe]

Thomas and Lewis may not be so comparable, but they share one important trait: no ring!

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thomas and Lewis may not be so comparable, but they share one important trait: no ring!</div>

Thomas is a 31 year old lazy player who's never been an all-star, never averaged more than 16 points (career high season was in 24 games, btw), and who's always been known as a lazy player merely playing for a contract.

Lewis is a 28 year old kid out of high school, who's averaging 16 points over his career, over 20 in 3 seasons, been to the 2nd round twice playing a 2nd or 3rd scorer role, went to the all-star game the year he had a huge role in the Sonics' only good season of the decade, and has played a huge role in Orlando playing out of position at PF...and still has quite a few years to go.

They're just nothing alike at all, Lewis is twice the player Thomas is

Oh yeah, and you're dismissing Lewis way too early: he's playing alongside the 1st or 2nd most dominant big man in game right now, who's still not even close to his prime.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thomas and Lewis may not be so comparable, but they share one important trait: no ring!</div>

Which is why Robert Horry is one of the greatest players in NBA history.

 

[Mr. Boe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>HOh yeah, and you're dismissing Lewis way too early: he's playing alongside the 1st or 2nd most dominant big man in game right now, who's still not even close to his prime.</div>
Not even Dwight's Superman costume'll save Lewis. He'll have to play alongside Michael Jordan and Bill Russell to win anything.

 

[Mr. Boe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 9 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Thomas and Lewis may not be so comparable, but they share one important trait: no ring!</div>

Which is why Robert Horry is one of the greatest players in NBA history.
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Horry has been a good player in his own right. He's a winner.

His most distinguishing trait is that he knows how to join the best team: skins or shirts. That's a skill in and of itself.

Like they say: It's better to be lucky than good! Horry is certainly lucky!

 

[Claud]

Where did my previous post go? LOL i feel the need to say it again..

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>HOh yeah, and you're dismissing Lewis way too early: he's playing alongside the 1st or 2nd most dominant big man in game right now, who's still not even close to his prime.</div>
Not even Dwight's Superman costume'll save Lewis. He'll have to play alongside Michael Jordan and Bill Russell to win anything.
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How do you know Dwight's dominance will make him the Bill Russel-type of this era?

Not saying that he'll be as good as Russel, more about comparing Dwight's dominance over players currently in the league; and Russel's dominance over players in the league at that time.

 

[Mr. Boe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Thomas is a 31 year old lazy player who's never been an all-star, never averaged more than 16 points (career high season was in 24 games, btw), and who's always been known as a lazy player merely playing for a contract.

Lewis is a 28 year old kid out of high school, who's averaging 16 points over his career, over 20 in 3 seasons, been to the 2nd round twice playing a 2nd or 3rd scorer role, went to the all-star game the year he had a huge role in the Sonics' only good season of the decade, and has played a huge role in Orlando playing out of position at PF...and still has quite a few years to go.</div>
Notice they're both averaging 16ppg? One for a career and one for a season or so.

 

[Claud]

 

[Mr. Boe]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 9 2008, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. Boe @ Jun 9 2008, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>HOh yeah, and you're dismissing Lewis way too early: he's playing alongside the 1st or 2nd most dominant big man in game right now, who's still not even close to his prime.</div>
Not even Dwight's Superman costume'll save Lewis. He'll have to play alongside Michael Jordan and Bill Russell to win anything.
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How do you know Dwight's dominance will make him the Bill Russel-type of this era?

Not saying that he'll be as good as Russel, more about comparing Dwight's dominance over players currently in the league; and Russel's dominance over players in the league at that time.
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Didn't say that Dwight would become the Next Bill Russell. Dwight hasn't won anything, yet!

I don't see Dwight affecting the league like Russell. It's about overall skill-set and intangibles.

 

[cpawfan]

Now I know who Mr. Boe is. His stay at S2 will be rather short today if he continues down his standard path