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According to Wheels at work, they will be extending an offer to someone. Guesses?

I think it might just be to Roy. They would do this to show potential free agents that they have their key player(s) locked up for the entire time they'll be here.

The safe guess is Hedo...
 
Tince said:
...???

According to Wheels at work, they will be extending an offer to someone. Guesses?

I think it might just be to Roy. They would do this to show potential free agents that they have their key player(s) locked up for the entire time they'll be here.

The safe guess is Hedo...
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First call: Ariza

Might as well piss off the Lakers!
 
It depends on the wording of Wheels staement.

Was it player, or FA?

The salary cap won't be announced for another week, so how could KP offer any money to someone? Unless it's his own player on an extension, or some minor scrub player that will make far below the cap space Portland has.
 
Mediocre Man said:
It depends on the wording of Wheels staement.

Was it player, or FA?

The salary cap won't be announced for another week, so how could KP offer any money to someone? Unless it's his own player on an extension, or some minor scrub player that will make far below the cap space Portland has.
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I believe he said, "Sources inside the Blazers are telling us Kevin Pritchard will be extending an offer to a player at 9:01pm, tonight."

I don't know if they can extend an offer without knowing the exact salary cap figure.
 
Tince said:
...???

According to Wheels at work, they will be extending an offer to someone. Guesses?

I think it might just be to Roy. They would do this to show potential free agents that they have their key player(s) locked up for the entire time they'll be here.

The safe guess is Hedo...
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It's Roy at a max extension. There's no way Pritchard would tell Wheeler about any potential FA signings. This is a "tease" that will turn out to be a formality.
 
I'm sure he'll be extending a few offers. Not just one.
 
The moratorium is for figuring how how much the cap is, what MLE figures are, etc.

So the things that can be agreed to right now is a) signing an MLE-level free agent, b) signing a max contract, c) signing a max-contract extension.

We don't have an MLE. We don't have the space to sign a max contract. We have a guy who we're all sure is going to get a max extension.

I vote Roy.
 
PapaG said:
It's Roy at a max extension. There's no way Pritchard would tell Wheeler about any potential FA signings. This is a "tease" that will turn out to be a formality.
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It wasn't KP directly to Wheels. In was a Blazer employee (who was nameless) telling Wheels.

I agree with you though, it's probably Roy. Any chance we offer him less than the max? Not as an insult, but just to keep the books as light as possible to remain flexible in the future?

LMA already said he would be willing to take less than Roy.
 
Tince said:
It wasn't KP directly to Wheels. In was a Blazer employee (who was nameless) telling Wheels.

I agree with you though, it's probably Roy. Any chance we offer him less than the max? Not as an insult, but just to keep the books as light as possible to remain flexible in the future?

LMA already said he would be willing to take less than Roy.
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Roy is the franchise, and Paul Allen will want to make him feel like the franchise and treat him as such IMO. A few million/per can be found be keeping the roster light, which is going to happen in the future anyhow once the veteran deals of LMA, Oden, Roy, and Player X are counting against the cap.
 
PapaG said:
It's Roy at a max extension. There's no way Pritchard would tell Wheeler about any potential FA signings. This is a "tease" that will turn out to be a formality.
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You don't sign your players until the free agent market is done. That is a no no.
 
Tince said:
I believe he said, "Sources inside the Blazers are telling us Kevin Pritchard will be extending an offer to a player at 9:01pm, tonight."

I don't know if they can extend an offer without knowing the exact salary cap figure.
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Yes, they do it all the time. Lots of FA contracts are agreed to before the end of the moratorium, and even get announced as Player X agrees to sign with Team Y, sources say it's for approximately this and that. And then when the salary cap is set, the actual contract can be signed. Usually they can have a pretty good idea where the cap will be, altough I remember some surprise years when the cap didn't grow as much as expected, then the FA have to make do with less.
 
I would like to give a preemptive middle finger to the POR organization if they make an offer to Ariza
 
Tince said:
Why is that a "no no"?
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Order of operations. You can go over the cap to sign your own free agents. You can't go over the cap to sign other free agents. So if you sign your player before you sign a free agent on the open market, you don't have any cap room to sign the free agent you wanted to bring in from the outside. But if you sign the outside free agent first with your cap room, then you can bring your players home with as big as paycheck as you want and go over the cap to retain them.
 
If they did extend Roy, it wouldn't count against next seasons cap anyway.
 
Guys, you can extend your own free agents at 12:01. Read the ESPN article to show that the teams did it for James, Bosh, Wade, Melo, etc.

"EXTENDING" a player doesn't affect this year's cap. Roy's salary for this year is already locked in. That's why there are things like Poison Pill Provisions and Base Year Contracts. Because this entire year he'll be making 3.9M and yet have a signed max extension.
 
Tince said:
Why is that a "no no"?
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Always after. It's why the picks, if indeed they are staying here, won't be signed until after we are set in free agency either.

Doesn't mean he can't present a contract to Roy though
 
hasoos said:
Order of operations. You can go over the cap to sign your own free agents. You can't go over the cap to sign other free agents. So if you sign your player before you sign a free agent on the open market, you don't have any cap room to sign the free agent you wanted to bring in from the outside. But if you sign the outside free agent first with your cap room, then you can bring your players home with as big as paycheck as you want and go over the cap to retain them.
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But Roy isn't a free agent. It would be a contract extension. He's already signed and on the books for $3.9 million for the 2009-10 season. Any extension he signs would not go into affect until after his current contract is up and will have no impact on our cap space this summer.

BNM
 
Mediocre Man said:
Yep. Hopefully we can drive the price up for them.

Fuck the L*kers
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I'm lame, but I'm asking anyway. Isn't there a RFA scale that is supposed to be used when offering a contract? So if the Lakers offer the highest contract within the scale they will automatically re-obtain Ariza? Or am I thinking NFL? I suck at this stuff, and clearly I haven't retained anything you guys have been talking about the last 3 months. Haha...

I guess my point is this - if RFA's work like I thought they did Portland would have limited ability to "drive up the price." They would only be able to offer the highest contract available within the scale then LA could match. ?????
 
BrianFromWA said:
Guys, you can extend your own free agents at 12:01. Read the ESPN article to show that the teams did it for James, Bosh, Wade, Melo, etc.

"EXTENDING" a player doesn't affect this year's cap. Roy's salary for this year is already locked in. That's why there are things like Poison Pill Provisions and Base Year Contracts. Because this entire year he'll be making 3.9M and yet have a signed max extension.
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Whoops. You are correct.
 
hasoos said:
Order of operations. You can go over the cap to sign your own free agents. You can't go over the cap to sign other free agents. So if you sign your player before you sign a free agent on the open market, you don't have any cap room to sign the free agent you wanted to bring in from the outside. But if you sign the outside free agent first with your cap room, then you can bring your players home with as big as paycheck as you want and go over the cap to retain them.
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Any extensions Roy or Aldridge get now take effect only in 2010. A max extension to Roy tonight doesn't affect our capspace this off-season in anyway.
 
hasoos said:
Order of operations. You can go over the cap to sign your own free agents. You can't go over the cap to sign other free agents. So if you sign your player before you sign a free agent on the open market, you don't have any cap room to sign the free agent you wanted to bring in from the outside. But if you sign the outside free agent first with your cap room, then you can bring your players home with as big as paycheck as you want and go over the cap to retain them.
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Roy is still on his rookie deal next season. The "extension" impacts 2010-11 and beyond. :dunno:
 
The Professional Fan said:
I'm lame, but I'm asking anyway. Isn't there a RFA scale that is supposed to be used when offering a contract? So if the Lakers offer the highest contract within the scale they will automatically re-obtain Ariza? Or am I thinking NFL? I suck at this stuff, and clearly I haven't retained anything you guys have been talking about the last 3 months. Haha...

I guess my point is this - if RFA's work like I thought they did Portland would have limited ability to "drive up the price." They would only be able to offer the highest contract available within the scale then LA could match. ?????
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In theory, Portland could offer Ariza their entire cap space.
 
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