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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think Atlanta would want Carter?</div>
No. They have Joe johnson and if they don't want to pay Smith $10+mm I doubt they want to pay that VC.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think Atlanta would want Carter?</div>
No. They have Joe johnson and if they don't want to pay Smith $10+mm I doubt they want to pay that VC.
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Because VC is an established veteran presence, and both Vince and Joe could play SG or SF.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 28 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 28 2008, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 28 2008, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We can still cut Vince's salary.</div>

Not cut. That would be on the Nets' book. The assumption is 'move' his contract for something more LBJ friendly.

-Petey
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Cut as in dump.
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watch it---
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Think Atlanta would want Carter?</div>
No. They have Joe johnson and if they don't want to pay Smith $10+mm I doubt they want to pay that VC.
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Because VC is an established veteran presence, and both Vince and Joe could play SG or SF.
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He still makes too much money. Smith plays an important role there and they don't want to pay him more than $10mm a year. VC is due $14.5mm this year and guaranteed over $50mm in total.
 
I think the nets have no choice but to let him go. What team will pay Kristic after such a terrible season on suspect knee 10 million dollars? Which is the equivalent of what he will make in russia.
 
Okay.


From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."

If Krstic signs with Triumph, the Nets will retain his rights if/when he decides to return to the NBA.</div>

A couple? Not just one, but a couple. Well, that's interesting.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay.


From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."

If Krstic signs with Triumph, the Nets will retain his rights if/when he decides to return to the NBA.</div>

A couple? Not just one, but a couple. Well, that's interesting.
</div>

well, they can't deal any of their drafted players or anyone signed or acquired in the off-season yet, right? And we can be pretty sure that they won't deal Carter or Devin Harris. So that leaves Hassell, Ager, Boone, Swift, and Sean. And KVH, I guess. I think one of those moves will involve dealing Ager and cash for a second-round pick. The other move will involve combining Sean with some number of the non-Boone guys for someone.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay.


From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."

If Krstic signs with Triumph, the Nets will retain his rights if/when he decides to return to the NBA.</div>

A couple? Not just one, but a couple. Well, that's interesting.
</div>

well, they can't deal any of their drafted players or anyone signed or acquired in the off-season yet, right? And we can be pretty sure that they won't deal Carter or Devin Harris. So that leaves Hassell, Ager, Boone, Swift, and Sean. And KVH, I guess. I think one of those moves will involve dealing Ager and cash for a second-round pick. The other move will involve combining Sean with some number of the non-Boone guys for someone.
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Yes they can. Just can't combine them with other players.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay.


From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."

If Krstic signs with Triumph, the Nets will retain his rights if/when he decides to return to the NBA.</div>

A couple? Not just one, but a couple. Well, that's interesting.
</div>

well, they can't deal any of their drafted players or anyone signed or acquired in the off-season yet, right? And we can be pretty sure that they won't deal Carter or Devin Harris. So that leaves Hassell, Ager, Boone, Swift, and Sean. And KVH, I guess. I think one of those moves will involve dealing Ager and cash for a second-round pick. The other move will involve combining Sean with some number of the non-Boone guys for someone.
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Yes they can. Just can't combine them with other players.
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oh, I didn't know that. I thought there was a straight 90-day moratorium on dealing someone you just signed.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>
Yes they can. Just can't combine them with other players.</div>

oh, I didn't know that. I thought there was a straight 90-day moratorium on dealing someone you just signed.
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Nope. Remember the Rasheed to Atlanta and then just days later to the Pistons deal a few years back. We can move Simmons as long as we don't put another player in the package.
 
Ooh, a midnight deadline. Krstic may have to improve his rebounding, but definitely not his flair for the dramatic.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 28 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ooh, a midnight deadline. Krstic may have to improve his rebounding, but definitely not his flair for the dramatic.</div>
It's not meant as an ultimatum. He has a deal on the table from a team in Russia and he wants to join up with his National Team. He wants to get it done with.

I actually think the deadline was a favor to the Nets because they were probably working on a few things in the S&T area and wanted the time to see if they could get somthing done.
 
Giving ultimatums like that is in bad taste.

The Nets have been very good to Curly, I'm not saying he should pass on the money but does he know he sucked last year?
 
Kristic about his development all season last season: "I need more time"
Kristic has an offer for Russia: "You ain't got alot of time!"
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Giving ultimatums like that is in bad taste.

The Nets have been very good to Curly, I'm not saying he should pass on the money but does he know he sucked last year?</div>
What makes you think it was an ultimatum and not just a favor to the Nets to give them sometime to button up any potential S&Ts they were looking at?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 28 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ooh, a midnight deadline. Krstic may have to improve his rebounding, but definitely not his flair for the dramatic.</div>
It's not meant as an ultimatum. He has a deal on the table from a team in Russia and he wants to join up with his National Team. He wants to get it done with.

I actually think the deadline was a favor to the Nets because they were probably working on a few things in the S&T area and wanted the time to see if they could get somthing done.
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I suspect that nenad wants to get this settled while he is still in Moscow, before he comes back to the states.
 
D'Alesandro

Looks like the Nets will be letting him go.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"Considering we're losing a starting-quality player, it's not necessarily bad, put it that way," one high-level Nets official said. "He's an awfully good player, but he has to get his confidence back, so maybe it's a good thing."

In other words, the Nets will watch him closely for the next year or two, take him back when he is ready or allow him to increase his trade value in the interim. And if Krstic doesn't regain what he once had before December of 2007 -- when a torn ACL detoured his quest of becoming one of the most promising young big men in the league -- they don't lose a penny.</div>
Also looks like they did try to get into the Josh Smith negotiations.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So the team is still pursuing moves that could relieve the logjam at power forward, and they are pursuing some extraordinary methods with which to do it. One of them is unlikely of having any success: A week ago, the Nets contacted the Atlanta Hawks in an attempt to get involved in a sign-and-trade sweepstakes for restricted free agent Josh Smith, but according to one NBA general manager, the Nets "don't have the stuff that really fits" to pull off a deal.</div>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Giving ultimatums like that is in bad taste.

The Nets have been very good to Curly, I'm not saying he should pass on the money but does he know he sucked last year?</div>
What makes you think it was an ultimatum and not just a favor to the Nets to give them sometime to button up any potential S&Ts they were looking at?
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Because I don't think the Krstic market is that good.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 03:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Giving ultimatums like that is in bad taste.

The Nets have been very good to Curly, I'm not saying he should pass on the money but does he know he sucked last year?</div>
What makes you think it was an ultimatum and not just a favor to the Nets to give them sometime to button up any potential S&Ts they were looking at?
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Because I don't think the Krstic market is that good.
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Exactly... all the more reason it wasn't an ultimatum. He had a deal on the table that he didn't want to lose and he gave the team sometime as a courtesy in case they had something cooking. I don't think he's being a bad guy here... in fact I think it's the opposite.

It's only an ultimatum if there was a hot market.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>D'Alesandro

Looks like the Nets will be letting him go.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"Considering we're losing a starting-quality player, it's not necessarily bad, put it that way," one high-level Nets official said. "He's an awfully good player, but he has to get his confidence back, so maybe it's a good thing."

In other words, the Nets will watch him closely for the next year or two, take him back when he is ready or allow him to increase his trade value in the interim. And if Krstic doesn't regain what he once had before December of 2007 -- when a torn ACL detoured his quest of becoming one of the most promising young big men in the league -- they don't lose a penny.</div>
Also looks like they did try to get into the Josh Smith negotiations.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So the team is still pursuing moves that could relieve the logjam at power forward, and they are pursuing some extraordinary methods with which to do it. One of them is unlikely of having any success: A week ago, the Nets contacted the Atlanta Hawks in an attempt to get involved in a sign-and-trade sweepstakes for restricted free agent Josh Smith, but according to one NBA general manager, the Nets "don't have the stuff that really fits" to pull off a deal.</div>



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It's a sound plan. I look at it as the Nets letting Krstic get back to form, but unlike sending him to the D-League, he won't count toward the 15-player limit on the roster.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>D'Alesandro

Looks like the Nets will be letting him go.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"Considering we're losing a starting-quality player, it's not necessarily bad, put it that way," one high-level Nets official said. "He's an awfully good player, but he has to get his confidence back, so maybe it's a good thing."

In other words, the Nets will watch him closely for the next year or two, take him back when he is ready or allow him to increase his trade value in the interim. And if Krstic doesn't regain what he once had before December of 2007 -- when a torn ACL detoured his quest of becoming one of the most promising young big men in the league -- they don't lose a penny.</div>
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that makes it sound like a eurostash. Where we can sign him when we want to, and he won't be on any other team. Maybe he just has a lot of loyalty to the Nets and will come back when we want him?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 28 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ooh, a midnight deadline. Krstic may have to improve his rebounding, but definitely not his flair for the dramatic.</div>
It's not meant as an ultimatum. He has a deal on the table from a team in Russia and he wants to join up with his National Team. He wants to get it done with.

I actually think the deadline was a favor to the Nets because they were probably working on a few things in the S&T area and wanted the time to see if they could get somthing done.
</div>
Nah, I prefer to imagine him as a Bond villain, calling up Rod on a giant video screen. "The deal is in place with the Russians, gentlemen. You have 8 hours. Goodnight, Mr. Thorn." Cue maniacal laugh.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 28 2008, 02:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 28 2008, 03:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ooh, a midnight deadline. Krstic may have to improve his rebounding, but definitely not his flair for the dramatic.</div>
It's not meant as an ultimatum. He has a deal on the table from a team in Russia and he wants to join up with his National Team. He wants to get it done with.

I actually think the deadline was a favor to the Nets because they were probably working on a few things in the S&T area and wanted the time to see if they could get somthing done.
</div>
Nah, I prefer to imagine him as a Bond villain, calling up Rod on a giant video screen. "The deal is in place with the Russians, gentlemen. You have 8 hours. Goodnight, Mr. Thorn." Cue maniacal laugh.
</div>

I believe he is a KAOS agent.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh he can screw himself.

The Nets will get practically nothing in return, I rather they wait the year for him to come back.</div>
Why can he “screw himself”? He should do what’s best for him, just like the Nets do.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh he can screw himself.

The Nets will get practically nothing in return, I rather they wait the year for him to come back.</div>
Why can he “screw himself”? He should do what’s best for him, just like the Nets do.
</div>

I just said why, if he would have just left and signed with Russia, I would not have had a problem with it but he gave them an ultimatum.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh he can screw himself.

The Nets will get practically nothing in return, I rather they wait the year for him to come back.</div>
Why can he “screw himself”? He should do what’s best for him, just like the Nets do.
</div>

I just said why, if he would have just left and signed with Russia, I would not have had a problem with it but he gave them an ultimatum.
</div>
A deadline actually helps the Nets, it gives them an option to make a deal. Just signing with Russia would not have. That’s not a valid reason for saying he can go screw himself. Neither one would be, actually. That’s business.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh he can screw himself.

The Nets will get practically nothing in return, I rather they wait the year for him to come back.</div>
Why can he ?€œscrew himself?€?? He should do what?€™s best for him, just like the Nets do.
</div>

I just said why, if he would have just left and signed with Russia, I would not have had a problem with it but he gave them an ultimatum.
</div>
A deadline actually helps the Nets, it gives them an option to make a deal. Just signing with Russia would not have. That?€™s not a valid reason for saying he can go screw himself. Neither one would be, actually. That?€™s business.
</div>

I can say whatever I want and I agree it its business.

Essentially he wants the Nets to give him a $10 million a year contract or trade him to a team that will do that. I like Curly but given his performance last year and this ultimatum this year, yeah he can screw himself, I'll see him next year.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh he can screw himself.

The Nets will get practically nothing in return, I rather they wait the year for him to come back.</div>
Why can he �€œscrew himself�€�? He should do what�€™s best for him, just like the Nets do.
</div>

I just said why, if he would have just left and signed with Russia, I would not have had a problem with it but he gave them an ultimatum.
</div>
A deadline actually helps the Nets, it gives them an option to make a deal. Just signing with Russia would not have. That�€™s not a valid reason for saying he can go screw himself. Neither one would be, actually. That�€™s business.
</div>

I can say whatever I want and I agree it its business.

Essentially he wants the Nets to give him a $10 million a year contract or trade him to a team that will do that. I like Curly but given his performance last year and this ultimatum this year, yeah he can screw himself, I'll see him next year.
</div>Clearly, you can say what you want, but you haven’t backed up why he can screw himself. Because he played poorly? No one would dispute that. Still, that has nothing to do with his right to do what’s best for himself. The Nets do the same thing.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 28 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 28 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Oh he can screw himself.

The Nets will get practically nothing in return, I rather they wait the year for him to come back.</div>
Why can he �€œscrew himself�€�? He should do what�€™s best for him, just like the Nets do.
</div>

I just said why, if he would have just left and signed with Russia, I would not have had a problem with it but he gave them an ultimatum.
</div>
A deadline actually helps the Nets, it gives them an option to make a deal. Just signing with Russia would not have. That�€™s not a valid reason for saying he can go screw himself. Neither one would be, actually. That�€™s business.
</div>

I can say whatever I want and I agree it its business.

Essentially he wants the Nets to give him a $10 million a year contract or trade him to a team that will do that. I like Curly but given his performance last year and this ultimatum this year, yeah he can screw himself, I'll see him next year.
</div>Clearly, you can say what you want, but you haven’t backed up why he can screw himself. Because he played poorly? No one would dispute that. Still, that has nothing to do with his right to do what’s best for himself. The Nets do the same thing.
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When did I say he couldn't do whats best for himself, he should have left and be done with it. Look at my post when it was first announced, I had no problem with it.

My problem came when he gave the team an ultimatum, I have a problem with the ultimatum not that he took the money. Don't give this, he did the team a favor, he did it for himself. Like you said, its a business.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>D'Alesandro

Looks like the Nets will be letting him go.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>"Considering we're losing a starting-quality player, it's not necessarily bad, put it that way," one high-level Nets official said. "He's an awfully good player, but he has to get his confidence back, so maybe it's a good thing."

In other words, the Nets will watch him closely for the next year or two, take him back when he is ready or allow him to increase his trade value in the interim. And if Krstic doesn't regain what he once had before December of 2007 -- when a torn ACL detoured his quest of becoming one of the most promising young big men in the league -- they don't lose a penny.</div>
Also looks like they did try to get into the Josh Smith negotiations.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>So the team is still pursuing moves that could relieve the logjam at power forward, and they are pursuing some extraordinary methods with which to do it. One of them is unlikely of having any success: A week ago, the Nets contacted the Atlanta Hawks in an attempt to get involved in a sign-and-trade sweepstakes for restricted free agent Josh Smith, but according to one NBA general manager, the Nets "don't have the stuff that really fits" to pull off a deal.</div>
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omg thorn has to get the stuff to MAKE it fit to get josh smith!!!! go ROD!!!! or KIKI!!! work your magic
 
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