Krstic Sign-and-Trade? NetIncome thinks it's possible...

[Balla 15]

I'm with NetIncome on this one, the one player everyone should be focusing on if a S&T occurs is Chris Wilcox. We all know that when Thorn is after someone, he keeps trying and trying and sometimes eventually ends up getting them. Take Keyon Dooling for example, who Thorn had been after for 3 seasons and finally got him.

 

[ly_yng]

Why is everyone focusing on Joe Smith? As noted, the Nets have long coveted Chris Wilcox. They tried to get him in the Kittles trade, failed. They tried to trade the Clippers first round pick (from the KMart trade) back to the Clips for him, failed. They must have tried five times to get him. Now he is playing 21 minutes a game in OKC, after two years of 13 and 7 in Seattle. He will lose even more minutes when Krstic arrives. He has one more year on his deal. He's still only 26. Trade Swift for him (works straight up) and then let the Thunder have Krstic. If he works out, you have his Bird Rights. If not, it's not a big risk.

First of all, I wouldn't be surprised if the Wilcox-mania was a Stefanski-fueled obsession. Then again, in theory he sounds like a poor man's Nene, so maybe Kiki would be interested too...

Still, I'd rather have a player who USED to be good than a player who was SUPPOSED to be good 2 years ago. I know he's not putting up big numbers, but he's also an old vet playing for the freakin' OKC Douchebags. He looked good for the Cavs last season, and I think he'd be a nice option on those nights when we seem to be a quality big short.

 

[ly_yng]

You honestly think that Joe Smith, a declining player, averaging 7 and 4.5 is going to start over Yi, a promising prospect, and in turn upgrade the Nets?

Yes. I honestly do think that.

The only consistent thing about Yi so far has been his inconsistency. It would be nice to have a quality backup we could trust.

 

[rory]

is chris wilkcox good player?

Good question.

 

[nets1]

No way in hell Krstic average 16/7 with Harris and Lopez. No way Krstic getting 16 shots a game near the post with dribble drive Harris.

no way Kristic will be starting and playing with Harris.

 

[Netted]

I say take Joe Smith. Many more options with him and he's cheaper. He can be combined with Swift as basically $11mm in expiring. A potential playoff team, like Portland, could want a veteran big man like Smith.

I think the luster has worn off Wilcox. The man has played for about 4 or 5 different coaches and he is what he is.

 

[SUPERB]

if we get wilcox we are making the playoffs. dude can be a beast in the paint. they have him playing out of position as a center though in okc. him, lopez, boone on the boards would be great.

plus dude is tough as WWII marines.

 

[Netted]

if we get wilcox we are making the playoffs. dude can be a beast in the paint. they have him playing out of position as a center though in okc. him, lopez, boone on the boards would be great.

plus dude is tough as WWII marines.

He will not play for us so there really is no sense in taking him. He'll be like Swift last year. Yi and Anderson are getting those minutes until one gets hurt. Najera can't even break the rotation and he's been here since October.

Only reason to take a player back is if they fill a need or they have potential trade value to bring in more resources. I see Joe Smith as valuable to a playoff team just like Kurt Thomas was last year.

 

[SportsTicker]

He will not play for us so there really is no sense in taking him. He'll be like Swift last year. Yi and Anderson are getting those minutes until one gets hurt. Najera can't even break the rotation and he's been here since October.

Only reason to take a player back is if they fill a need or they have potential trade value to bring in more resources. I see Joe Smith as valuable to a playoff team just like Kurt Thomas was last year.

That's why I am not greedy. I think DeVon Hardin, even though he is a young big man, could become valuable and the Nets dont have to sign him right now. He could go to Europe or the D-league. They can wait til next year to bring him in at the rookie minimum for second rounders, about $442,000. And since the Nets dont have a second rounder in 2009, its not like he will add to the roster.

 

[NJ-VC-AI]

I wouldn't mind taking Krstic back. Honestly, I would like to see more offense off the bench from our bigs outside of the occasional 3 by Anderson.

 

[B.LO IS NOT OVERRATED]

package Devon Hardin and Sean Williams for Joe Alexander?

the bucks would never do that unless you threw in an unprotected first round pick

 

[lukewarmplay]

A useful Krstic would be far more effective for the Nets than anyone the Thunder can offer- or for that matter, than Yi.

 

[nets1]

I say let thorn try his magic and make the thunder force their hand. I mean Krstic was gone anyway and the nets really had no futrue plans for him. He went to Russia and really didn't prove his point that he deserved a long term contract. If the Thorn and company can do what they've done in the past they will steal a prospect or two from the thunder, or at least get a high second rounder.

 

[ly_yng]

A useful Krstic would be far more effective for the Nets than anyone the Thunder can offer- or for that matter, than Yi.

Yeah, but at what price? The cap issues are key, as are the 2010 FA implications.

That's why Devon Hardin or a 2nd round pick make a lot of sense.

My Joe Smith dreams have faded (as have my playoff contender aspirations) after that dreadful showing against the Rockets.

 

[BrooklynBound]

If I'm OK, I call our bluff. I don't see us matching Krstic.

 

[Petro3]

If I'm OK, I call our bluff. I don't see us matching Krstic.

Does letting Kristic go for nothing set a bad precedent, that you can steel assets from the Nets without due compensation?

For Thorn and Kiki’s long term reputations, if OKC refuses a S&T, wouldn’t you have to seriously consider matching and simultaneously doing some trade that screws OKC?

 

[Petey]

I think the Nets have to match. It's a MLE type deal for 3 years. If it doesn't work out they can bundle him with a pick or another player to get out of the deal a year early. If he can return to 75% of his previous form, he is a starter on the squad.

-Petey

 

[NattaNerNuttaMan]

I think Krs-C can still contribute at a decent level...but getting a #31 pick would be gravy for a player you didn't really pla to use anyway.

Kinda like if the Clippers traded Camby....they only gave up a 2nd rounder for him...and could get better than that in return come trade deadline time from a number of teams fighting for a playoff spot

 

[Boomdog]

I'd be happy to get any kind of backup who may be able to compete for Krstic let alone the 31st pick.

 

[NOMAM]

A reminder for Rod Thorn what a healthy Krstic brings:

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Krstic had the same injury as Nene right? Nene has come back strong from his injury so Krstic could be worth the risk of matching the Thunders offer and bringing him back if they can't get a sign and trade.

 

[ly_yng]

I think the Nets have to match. It's a MLE type deal for 3 years. If it doesn't work out they can bundle him with a pick or another player to get out of the deal a year early. If he can return to 75% of his previous form, he is a starter on the squad.

-Petey

You've got as good a chance moving Brook out of the starting lineup as you do moving him in real life.

I'm not sure you can play Krstic at power forward...

 

[networks]

If we dont match, why do we need a big man back?

We need a third PG or some kind of upgrade at SF.

I am for Watson or Wilkins or that 31 pick. No need for Wilcox. He will take away from our young bigs.

 

[User01]

You've got as good a chance moving Brook out of the starting lineup as you do moving him in real life.

I'm not sure you can play Krstic at power forward...

i think we were doing that before, to make room for Ilic.

 

[Boomdog]

Sigh, that video of KRstic makes me sad. He was soooo good in that series, as well as the whole season....I really thought he was going to be our version of Dirk until he got hurt (Krstic really was lights out with that Jumper, didnt have the 3 range of dirk but he'd hit tur around J's like it was nothing). Cant remember if it was that series or a different against the PAcers but i remeber being at the once known as Continental Airlines Arena, and watched him dominate JO and saying he might be the real deal.

 

[nets1]

Its also pre injury video. Show some video of Krstic post injury and you will see a shell of a man. But its near 2 years since the injury and progress should be made. Is he the same, well thats the million or shall we say the 5 million dollar question...

 

[lukewarmplay]

I'm sure they able to watch tape of his recent play and get a feel for what he's got. What I hope is that the 2010 implications don't get in the way, and that this fascination with Yi doesn't impede matching either, if he is back. Why can't he play PF? He's got nearly as sweet a shot as Yi, better defense and court awareness. I mean, if Yi is what they're looking for at the 4...

The reason I'm excited is because we're so much better than we were supposed to be- a moderately healthy Krstic makes this a very dangerous playoff team.

 

[DevinNets34]

A reminder for Rod Thorn what a healthy Krstic brings:

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Krstic had the same injury as Nene right? Nene has come back strong from his injury so Krstic could be worth the risk of matching the Thunders offer and bringing him back if they can't get a sign and trade.

The Pick'n'Pop killed the pacers in 2006.

 

[Universe]

The problem with Krstic is when he came back, those 15 footers weren't even falling and that has nothing to do with his knee. Matter of fact he should have came back better at shooting since his lack of mobile movement.

 

[BrooklynBound]

Does letting Kristic go for nothing set a bad precedent, that you can steel assets from the Nets without due compensation?

For Thorn and Kiki’s long term reputations, if OKC refuses a S&T, wouldn’t you have to seriously consider matching and simultaneously doing some trade that screws OKC?

Precedence? Everything is on a case by case basis.

 

[SportsTicker]

The problem with Krstic is when he came back, those 15 footers weren't even falling and that has nothing to do with his knee. Matter of fact he should have came back better at shooting since his lack of mobile movement.

So now we are lucky enough to have an orthopedist on the board. How the hell do you know that his knee wasnt effecting his shot? God damn it, what arrogance.