OT Kyrie Irving is certain that he is not an anti-semite; many others disagree

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Holy shit, Kyrie needs to get out of the league. If you can't stand watching the whole thing, at least skip to the last minute.
 
AmirIcon said:
I'm genuinely asking because I haven't followed. Is your first thought to shout someone down if they don't know something? Are you that eager to call someone hateful?
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I’ve seen you post bullshit on here in the past. I swore you were attempting to defend this asshat.
 
THE HCP said:
I’ve seen you post bullshit on here in the past. I swore you were attempting to defend this asshat.
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I don't think I've ever defended him. I'm not a fan.

But that's a different issue than calling him antisemitic. That's a serious charge.
 
crandc said:
If you are serious, please visit espn or NBA com sites. He has spread anti Semitic tropes more than once.

Also anti vaxxer and flat earther.
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I'm on an NBA board with some who feel strongly about this so I thought I'd ask here.

I knew about the other stuff but never heard him being antisemitic.
 
AmirIcon said:
I don't think I've ever defended him. I'm not a fan.

But that's a different issue than calling him antisemitic. That's a serious charge.
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He tweeted support for a film based on a book that is antisemitic.
 
THE HCP said:
Totally agree, but shouldn’t surprise. There is a story of a guy in my business that I used to think was an urban legend. Until I worked with him. Long story short, he was working the MASTERS for CBS and on his way to work robbed a bank!!!! Got busted when the blue dye blew up all over him in his hotel room. Guy is back in the sports broadcasting business working. Shit happens in the real world.
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like take this kyrie bullshit. any other profession, or hell any other player would get kicked out of the league for the kinda shit he gets away with (yet he remains VP of the players union).

look at what happened to meyers leonard.
 
illmatic99 said:
smh, that's not all he did. he fucking spouted praises for alex jones' new world order bullshit while tripling down on the anti-semitic messages in the move he linked to. do some research for god's sake.
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Nah. Ill let you go digging into everyones personal lives. You seem to be great at flinging judgements over it all.

Smh…

any actual basketball news in here?
 
BlazerBender said:
For the record, Kyrie himself did not say anything. He posted a link.
He may be an ass but the lunch mob out for him is no different than saying Udoka should never coach again.

some of you guys are simply over the top man.
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Inferring here, of course, but are you saying it's okay to just broadly distribute literature and film that is factually anti-Semitic, because hey - the person passing it along is fine because they themselves didn't say it?

By that logic the people praising the cult leader and espousing their rhetoric are fine people because it wasn't them who created said rhetoric.

Just trying to understand why it's okay to pass off anti-Semitic literature.... because it's not. This guy has influence and millions of followers, but because he himself didn't say the actual words, it's fine? Because we all pass along things we don't believe in, right?

That is where the beef is, and rightly so. So it's not "over the top"
 
BlazerBender said:
Nah. Ill let you go digging into everyones personal lives. You seem to be great at flinging judgements over it all.

Smh…

any actual basketball news in here?
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judgement? this dude is one step removed from spouting neo-nazi nonsense to millions of followers while representing his team and the league in public. get out from under your rock.
 
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BlazerBender said:
Post some actual news and ill get informed. This is saying nothing more than the reporter he was an ass too.
Where is his actual post?

I post shit all the time. Doesn't mean i promote what is in a link.
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So then why post it if you don't want to promote it? Just because? There's some level of implied promotion whether or not it's intended. That's how it works.
 
Strenuus said:
Inferring here, of course, but are you saying it's okay to just broadly distribute literature and film that is factually anti-Semitic, because hey - the person passing it along is fine because they themselves didn't say it?

By that logic the people praising the cult leader and espousing their rhetoric are fine people because it wasn't them who created said rhetoric.

Just trying to understand why it's okay to pass off anti-Semitic literature.... because it's not. This guy has influence and millions of followers, but because he himself didn't say the actual words, it's fine? Because we all pass along things we don't believe in, right?

That is where the beef is, and rightly so. So it's not "over the top"
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So if i post a link to a mass shooting without comment, does that mean i support mass shootings?

rhats the problem. People infer and assume waaaayyyy too much in todays world. And then are hastily judgemental about their assumptions.
 
BlazerBender said:
Post some actual news and ill get informed. This is saying nothing more than the reporter he was an ass too.
Where is his actual post?

I post shit all the time. Doesn't mean i promote what is in a link.
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if you're gonna be lazy and not even bother clicking the link that addresses exactly what you posted, i dunno what to tell you:

Now the worst you could say is that Kyrie Irving deliberately promoted an antisemitic film, repeatedly defended that choice, steadfastly refused to apologize and dismissed anyone who raised concerns—including his team, the NBA and the Anti-Defamation League.

And based on all that, you could justifiably say much worse about him—and it would be hard to refute any of it.

The film Irving tweeted about last week (which we won’t name here) leaves no ambiguity about its own viewpoint, trafficking in countless antisemitic tropes (per Rolling Stone): that Jews control the media and banking, that Jews were responsible for slavery, that Jews created anti-Black racism and on and on, drawing on fabricated quotes that have been a staple of antisemitic propaganda for decades.

The film (according to a screenshot posted by the New York Post’s Mike Vaccaro) also accuses Jews of creating “falsehoods” to “protect their status and power.” Among these alleged falsehoods? That six million Jews were killed in the Holocaust.

There is nothing veiled or vague here. This is classic, blatant antisemitic propaganda, the same vile, hateful talking points spewed by neo-Nazis, alt-right trolls and conspiracy theorists of all stripes.

Kyrie Irving posted a link to this film, with these assertions, left it up for days, dismissed all criticism, made himself out to be the victim, lashed out at reporters who asked him to explain himself and cut short his media session Saturday night. But he did first confirm that yes, in fact, he’d watched the film before tweeting the link—eliminating the possibility he’d perhaps promoted the film without knowing its contents—which means he’s also forfeited any benefit of the doubt.
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