Kyrie or Damian. Whose better?

[Boob-No-More]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Damian Lillard&player_id1_select=Damian Lillard&player_id1=lillada01&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Kyrie Irving&player_id2_select=Kyrie Irving&player_id2=irvinky01&idx=players

I think they are basically the same guy. Poor defenders, good scorers, decent distributors.

Given that Kyrie was a key part of the Cavs beating the Warriors two years ago, that's a notch for him, but having LeBron next to you was pretty important.

Bottom line: if you polled a bunch of general NBA people you'd probably get a 60/40 split for Kyrie, but the gulf is more like a fissure; not enough to matter.

I'm not going to pretend to guess what GMs would do. Of course, I'm not a GM, but given how similar they are, if I was, I'd much rather have the guy who is committed to his team than the guy who is tired of playing with the best player on the planet and going to the finals every year. That may sound like hyperbole, but it's based on the facts.

Dame has put up comparable numbers being the #1 option on a Western Conference playoff team while Kyrie has put up his numbers in the East with LeBron drawing a LOT of defensive attention. Lillard is a proven #1 option. Kyrie is not.

BNM

 

[SIeepwalker]

This dumbass in the video don't know shit about Dame.

 

[SIeepwalker]

So did we found out whether this "better" belongs to Dame or Kyrie ?
What's a "better" anyway ?

 

[MickZagger]

Kyrie does some shit with the rock that I've never seen before.

But:

A. He's hurt all the time

B. He won't embrace Portland like Lillard.

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

I think they are very similar, but one of them hit a title winning shot in a game 7 on the road. Edge Kyrie (and i love dame)

 

[Boob-No-More]

I think they are very similar, but one of them hit a title winning shot in a game 7 on the road. Edge Kyrie (and i love dame)

By that logic, Robert Horry was better than Tim Duncan.

BNM

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

By that logic, Robert Horry was better than Tim Duncan.

BNM

As my post indicated, I only used it as a tiebreaker

 

[HailBlazers]

No I am just saying yeah there are people who are obviously bias here but come on I think we have a lot of members who would also be real about it

Scoring: Kyrie
Handles: Kyrie
Clutch: Edge Kyrie
Decision Making: Kyrie
Shooting: Dame
Leadership: Dame
Distribution: Dame
Durability: Dame
Defense: Wash

Answer: Depends

 

[Minstrel]

I think they are very similar, but one of them hit a title winning shot in a game 7 on the road. Edge Kyrie (and i love dame)

Dame hit the shot that created a generation of butthurt Houston fans. No, it's not the same importance, but only because Lillard didn't get to shoot it in the Finals. I don't think Irving has a greater "clutch gene."

 

[GrandJury]

Shocked by the voting so far ...

Asking whose better Dame or Kyrie on a Blazers fan site? Hmm I wonder who folks will vote for

 

[GrandJury]

Dame hit the shot that created a generation of butthurt Houston fans. No, it's not the same importance, but only because Lillard didn't get to shoot it in the Finals. I don't think Irving has a greater "clutch gene."

Amazing shot! I still remember that but I doubt Houston fans care about it anymore they made the conference finals since that shot and we still have not since 2000

 

[Minstrel]

Amazing shot! I still remember that but I doubt Houston fans care about it anymore they made the conference finals since that shot and we still have not since 2000

The kind that inhabits Clutchfans feels every stinging defeat of the past pretty sharply. I enjoy reading that forum a lot, because it's one of the silliest fan forums on the net.

That's not too important to my point, though. Lillard's clearly capable of making great clutch shots--it just wasn't in the Finals because he didn't have LeBron James as a teammate (and wasn't in the East).

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

DAME!

Kyrie really is more of a SG - he looks for his shot first, second and third.

He'd fit right in next to a PG - like Dame. The CJ McCollum role.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Asking whose better Dame or Kyrie on a Blazers fan site? Hmm I wonder who folks will vote for

Go ahead and ask it on a Cavs fan site and come back and share the results.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

That's not too important to my point, though. Lillard's clearly capable of making great clutch shots--it just wasn't in the Finals because he didn't have LeBron James as a teammate (and wasn't in the East).

Right, if not for LeBron, Kyrie's career finals scoring average would be exactly the same as Dame's: 0.0 ppg.

BNM

 

[H.C.]

Go ahead and ask it on a Cavs fan site and come back and share the results.

BNM

Funny thing is, I visit one other forum.(outside of the occasional trip to CF)
If you ignore the Cleveland BW fans.
The general consensus on that forum is Lillard gets the edge because Irving is playing with the best player on the planet.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Go ahead and ask it on a Cavs fan site and come back and share the results.

BNM

Can i ask it two weeks ago?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Right, if not for LeBron, Kyrie's career playoff scoring average would be 0.0 ppg.

FTFY

 

[BBert]

I come across this clip and welp, windhorst gonna windhorst. Forced Lamarcus out of town? what is this fuck on?!?! this narrative is still running around? Dame isn't popular? last time I checked he has a hip hop album, all over commercials, etc.

That big fella is kind of a dolt, ya?

First, Dame didn't force LaMarshmallow out of town. That's pure ignorance.

Second: Shoe sales? Really? The guy who plays on the east coast, and rides Lebrons coat tails to the finals every year, sells more shoes than the guy who plays in the dark obscurity of the Pacific Northwest? That shows he's better? SMFH

I don't know who's more talented, but I know who I'd rather go to war with. Dame. 100/100.

 

[Sinobas]

Damian is better. I'd say he's the 4th best PG in the league now.

Curry,Westbrook, Paul, Lillard.

 

[Orion Bailey]

What the fuck??
Kyrie thinks the earth is flat.

Nuff said....
Drops mic.

 

[bradk8605]

Bill Simmons is an Idiot, Portland would never even consider trading Lillard for Irving.

https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/7/30/16066294/damian-lillard-kyrie-irving-trade-bill-simmons

 

[BBert]

Bill Simmons is an Idiot, Portland would never even consider trading Lillard for Irving.

https://www.blazersedge.com/2017/7/30/16066294/damian-lillard-kyrie-irving-trade-bill-simmons

What? Simmons still trolling the Blazers fan base? He must be bored.