OT LA wildfires

[riverman]

It’s called arson, and is how the vast majority of structure fires and wildfires are started.

It's called lightning.....which starts fires all through history even before people settle an area ..every season....other than that it's often cigarette butts...several years ago in Southern Oregon a fire fighter started one to get overtime pay...that's a crime against humanity but really, most fires are lightning started and California is dry....with really combustable undergrowth

 

[MarAzul]

It's called lightning.....which starts fires all through history even before people settle an area ..every season....other than that it's often cigarette butts...several years ago in Southern Oregon a fire fighter started one to get overtime pay...that's a crime against humanity but really, most fires are lightning started and California is dry....with really combustable undergrowth

Bull!
The Bel Air fire was started by arson, the Thomas fire unknown. By unknown mean there was no lightning and no known down power lines.

Maris was responding to my post where I stated, there was no lightning.

https://www.dailynews.com/2017/12/07/how-does-a-wildfire-start-with-people/

“Humans are the only sources of fires during Santa Ana winds,” said Keeley, a research ecologist with United States Geological Survey. “You don’t get lightning during Santa Ana wind conditions. Humans are responsible for all the fires, either directly or through the power lines.”

“A lot of arson-ignited fires occurs under Santa Ana wind conditions because I suppose the arsonist sees that as an opportunity to create a really big fire,” he said by phone Thursday afternoon."

 

[riverman]

Maris was responding to my post where I stated, there was no lightning.

fair enough but I didn't read those posts.....just added lightning is always a major fire starter....and I don't have any info about recent LA fires....heavy population areas...chances of arson are magnified for sure....I shouldn't skip to the end of threads .....

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Bull!
The Bel Air fire was started by arson, the Thomas fire unknown. By unknown mean there was no lightning and no known down power lines.

Maris was responding to my post where I stated, there was no lightning.

https://www.dailynews.com/2017/12/07/how-does-a-wildfire-start-with-people/

“Humans are the only sources of fires during Santa Ana winds,” said Keeley, a research ecologist with United States Geological Survey. “You don’t get lightning during Santa Ana wind conditions. Humans are responsible for all the fires, either directly or through the power lines.”

“A lot of arson-ignited fires occurs under Santa Ana wind conditions because I suppose the arsonist sees that as an opportunity to create a really big fire,” he said by phone Thursday afternoon."

BULLSHIT! Fire naturally occurs in nature. Humans can not burn an environment or a planet. You tree hugging, people blaming liberals make me sick.

 

[MarAzul]

BULLSHIT! Fire naturally occurs in nature. Humans can not burn an environment or a planet. You tree hugging, people blaming liberals make me sick.

Interesting.

You think the arsonist is a liberal?
I was thinking dumbass, Terrorist, maybe even plain old drunk.

Why would you tag him/her a liberal? Is it to drum up support for global warming like Jerry Brown is preaching?
Dang! I don't think he intended to get the State ravaged like this though!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Interesting.

You think the arsonist is a liberal?
I was thinking dumbass, Terrorist, maybe even plain old drunk.

Why would you tag him/her a liberal? Is it to drum up support for global warming like Jerry Brown is preaching?
Dang! I don't think he intended to get the State ravaged like this though!

The planet had fires long before humans ever existed. That means humans can't cause forest fires. Science.

 

[MarAzul]

The planet had fires long before humans ever existed. That means humans can't cause forest fires. Science.

uh, read about Santa Ana winds Sly. The do not make lightening. I was here when the began, no lightening. The Thomas Fire started near a Highway intersection, no power-lines down.

They caught the fucker that started the other big fire.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

uh, read about Santa Ana winds Sly. The do not make lightening. I was here when the began, no lightening. The Thomas Fire started near a Highway intersection, no power-lines down.

They caught the fucker that started the other big fire.

Watch and learn.

 

[MarAzul]

Man those old creosoted poles used for power lines along the road sure burn like hell though.
Saw several on fire, one, the bottom 2/3rd was burned off. The top was hanging by the wire, burning like hell.

 

[MarAzul]

Watch and learn.

Rather early in the day for the cups, isn't it?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Rather early in the day for the cups, isn't it?

We know for a fact that humans and jet fuel can't melt steel beams, but why hasn't anyone investigated if apes can?

 

[riverman]

We know for a fact that humans and jet fuel can't melt steel beams, but why hasn't anyone investigated if apes can?

Because humans haven't learned their language yet.....? You think they're throwing shit at you at the zoo but they're actually telling you how to melt steel beams

 

[MarAzul]

We know for a fact that humans and jet fuel can't melt steel beams, but why hasn't anyone investigated if apes can?

Because humans haven't learned their language yet.....? You think they're throwing shit at you at the zoo but they're actually telling you how to melt steel beams

Well throwing poop won't melt steel no matter how it's done. Throwing oxygen at Kerosene in great amounts will more than do the trick. How do you throw oxygen? Super up draft will do, like up and elevator shaft. Anybody ever experiment with chimneys?
The taller the better, the more up draft, the hotter the fire.

 

[Shaboid]

Well this took a turn from what I was going for. Maybe I should have just started a new thread about the mudslide that has killed 15 people. I guess part of the cause was the fire but geez, I just feel bad for all the victims.

 

[MarAzul]

Don't believe it!
Do you remember the cement plant in Oswego from years ago? Oil feed kiln melting limestone, could produce temps of 1400+ C
Turn that stone into lava and then clinker rolled out the end.
Heat is a function of how much oxygen more than the fuel. Shit, you can burn aluminum with enough oxygen.
Wonder how many BTUs are in a 757?

 

[MarAzul]

Well this took a turn from what I was going for. Maybe I should have just started a new thread about the mudslide that has killed 15 people. I guess part of the cause was the fire but geez, I just feel bad for all the victims.

Me too. Sorry for helping to detour.

 

[MarAzul]

uh oh!
Santa Ana winds return tomorrow.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

uh oh!
Santa Ana winds return tomorrow.

This is why we need that wall! Keep the Mexican winds out!

Just say no to blow!

 

[riverman]

I hope they contain the fire and folks are safe.....my family down there has escaped the path so far..

 

[MarAzul]

This is why we need that wall! Keep the Mexican winds out!

Just say no to blow!