Politics Labor force participation worst since 37 years ago.

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I really don't want to work at a "job" after this current job I've been in is over. It just seems like a dead end overall to be working for someone. Rather be freelance or start something.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

You kinda have to leave and go somewhere else if you want a raise these days. That's pretty much what I've heard across the board.

I suspect that could change as more and more boomers retire. There are more and more professions that are having a difficult time finding qualified applicants as those boomers move on. So those that are qualified will be able to command better wages. My former workplace is having a terrible time (for a variety of reasons) filling vacancies. As a result, they recently started increasing wages in every department that has the need. All of sudden, a better quality of applicant is coming out of the woodwork. It's also been pointed out on this thread that kids come out of college with English Lit, Philosophy, Sociology, etc, etc, useless degrees. And they're disappointed they can't find a decent job. Obviously the ability to obtain a college education does not guarantee that it comes with common sense. With rising tuition costs, I just don't get why more people don't go the community college route. It's cheaper and a two year degree can and will get a motivated individual a decent paying job (or at least better than that 4 year English Lit or Philosophy degree). Community colleges are probably the best tax dollar bargain in the state (alongside libraries). And the jobs will be there. So will the wages.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Even if you have a useful degree, it really isn't going to help you all that much.

 

[MarAzul]

or start something.

Good thought! The sooner you quit thinking like an employee, the more progress you will make.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I mean shit, go to work where some chump tells you what to do? I ain't about that. Wear some bitch made uniform? Hell nah. For what, $100 a day? Shit, most places won't even let you wear your snapback.

 

[MarAzul]

a lot of people are graduating with worthless degrees

Classes like this are not doing them any good either
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6862

It is difficult to see how this will help you improve your look to the employer that wants to hire an employee that will help make a profit.
I can see how it would have the opposite effect.

 

[magnifier661]

I have a doctorate in underwater basket weaving

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I mean shit, go to work where some chump tells you what to do? I ain't about that. Wear some bitch made uniform? Hell nah. For what, $100 a day? Shit, most places won't even let you wear your snapback.

I'M ROCKING MY YEEZY BOOSTS RIGHT NOW.

 

[Natebishop3]

I have a doctorate in underwater basket weaving

Cool! My doctorate is in underwater pottery. We should totally colab!

 

[MarAzul]

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Wow! The recession ended over 5 years ago. The continuous slide down hill for labor participation must be the result of successful policies Obama set in place, to fundamentally change America.
I probably will need to change my view of him, he may be the most successful President since Lincoln.

 

[riverman]

I mean, if you hire someone, just don't expect them to be on time, or come back after the first day or two. They get that $100 and they good for a week or so. PBR pounders are cheap as fuck yo.

I have a doctorate in watching baskets weaving underwater

FIFY

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Whoops, they already accounted for retired. This maybe higher than I thought

I just got a job after a two year "vacation". Don't blame me....

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Maybe I'm just old, but what is it with all these kids on my lawn? I mean gee whiz. I blame Obama's failed middle east policies.

 

[riverman]

Maybe I'm just old, but what is it with all these kids on my lawn? I mean gee whiz. I blame Obama's failed middle east policies.

Wake up and take a shower then throw out those empty bottles on your lawn ....then google the last part and wonder who Obama is and where the middle east is

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I don't know why anyone is surprised. We aren't a manufacturing country..duh.

You sell me coffee, I'll sell you some. You do my yardwork, I'll do yours. INSTANT FUCKING JOBS DUMBASS

 

[Paine Tablet]

Umm..they graduated with a degree in theatre, what did you expect.

Its a hustler economy nowadays, you get whatever job you can and go from there.

The days of stable long careers at one company are relatively done (although I've had the same job for like 15 years)

Could that have anything to do with the apparent lack of ambition? Working really hard without a promise of stability just sounds like working really hard for the sake of working really hard. Might then one ask what for.

 

[Paine Tablet]

My wife and I got laid off together 14 years ago. We got govt grants to go to school. We talked about what careers we could do that wouldnbe stable for the next 30 years.

Basically we talked about if they could outsource our jobs. We decided on her being a hairdresser and me doing bodywork. I could have been a pharmacy tech or something else monumentally boring.

This shit is hard work, but with her becoming a general manager over 8 hair salons and me working my ass off we can hit mid 100g's pretty much every year. We don't have kids so that helps. Vegas cost of living is low too.

However, we made the mistake of going to Winco mid afternoon last Sunday.

We generally go early in the morning when people that work for a living are the only ones up.

I fucking hate it when that happens. I ask myself why I have to work so fucking hard only to watch people who don't work buy frozen burritos and pizza and chips.

Then we go get in our 2010 Honda Civic, a car which is worse than 80 percent of the cars in the lot on welfare weekend.

It's so irritating.

Would it irritate you so much if you believed in determinism?

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Would it irritate you so much if you believed in determinism?

No, but only an idiot believes that each individual has no ability to change their lot in life.


People need to change the word philosopher to druggie when defining things.

 

[Paine Tablet]

No, but only an idiot believes that each individual has no ability to change their lot in life.


People need to change the word philosopher to druggie when defining things.

There are too many notable scientists and philosophers that would be offended to hear such an idea sprouts exclusively from drug use. Besides, determinism doesn't deny that people make decisions and are able to commit to change. It merely explains why they are able to change or are constrained to not change. To throw out the causal chain because it sounds idiotic shows a certain lack of observation combined with a special kind of faith that allows for this dissonant cognitive construct of which there is no grounded support.

 

[blue32]

There are jobs out there that fit all of this. I hardly consider what I do "work". There are days.... but the ass ain't greener. I don't have to kiss ass, but I do schmooze customers every now and then, but in fun atmospheres. We rarely watch what I say - rare is the day that co-workers don't send internal emails discussing the fine differences between a "goat fuck" and a "rat fuck". We had an employee miss a day-long company meeting due to being taken to the drunk tank - mind you, every employee was in town, including the big boss in Europe. Or completely blitzed in front of customers and tried to drive them around.

Lol, need any help in your IT Department? specifically VDI/Citrix? Sounds like a place right up my alley, haha.

You kinda have to leave and go somewhere else if you want a raise these days. That's pretty much what I've heard across the board.

That is true. I've had to do that twice now. Once after 11 years, and once after 2.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yeah, if Blazing Giants had some hot young interns it'd be the perfect job.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

There are too many notable scientists and philosophers that would be offended to hear such an idea sprouts exclusively from drug use. Besides, determinism doesn't deny that people make decisions and are able to commit to change. It merely explains why they are able to change or are constrained to not change. To throw out the causal chain because it sounds idiotic shows a certain lack of observation combined with a special kind of faith that allows for this dissonant cognitive construct of which there is no grounded support.

I googled determinism. Your description doesn't match what I read. I don't particularly want to argue the merits of philosophy any more than Christianity. They are both the products of people pulling ideas out of their respective asses.

Drugs are bad mkay? The great philosopher Mr Mackey said that.


I will say that on its face determism as google defined it is indeed idiotic. Suicide by definition would disprove this bullshit. No free will huh?

 

[MARIS61]

Most unemployed Americans would love to work at just about any job that an American company needs filled.

Unfortunately, they can't afford the plane ticket to China.